Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #18

[Betty_Boop88]

Yes I think this also

He can’t be said to have lived a “rich life” recently though, which makes me dubious he had such a video to exchange in recent years (original media buried or destroyed?).
He could have used it to gain access to other Dark Web chats, though. The more such a thing is in circulation, the less money he would get for it, I’d imagine.
Unless he was just living frugally to save for his “€1m goal”. Could have also been saving his Bitcoin (DW currency) to gain value in future.

In fairness though, I work and couldn’t afford a box factory and a Winnebago in cash - even if they were at reduced price - nor elective jaw surgery.

 

[misty48]

I have just been made aware that the appeals for information about the two mobile phone numbers which were issued by OG & findmadeleine.com have been removed within the last 2 days. Hopefully that means German police are progressing in the right direction.

 

[Dlk79]

I have just been made aware that the appeals for information about the two mobile phone numbers which were issued by OG & findmadeleine.com have been removed within the last 2 days. Hopefully that means German police are progressing in the right direction.

Made aware of what exactly? The numbers are still showing on the official BKA website appeal...

https://www.bka.de/DE/IhreSicherhei...en/43_Jaehriger_Deutscher_TV/Sachverhalt.html

 

[Betty_Boop88]

I have just been made aware that the appeals for information about the two mobile phone numbers which were issued by OG & findmadeleine.com have been removed within the last 2 days. Hopefully that means German police are progressing in the right direction.

Any links, Misty?

 

[misty48]

I have just been made aware that the appeals for information about the two mobile phone numbers which were issued by OG & findmadeleine.com have been removed within the last 2 days. Hopefully that means German police are progressing in the right direction.

Any links, Misty?

Scotland Yard Reveal Latest Findings in Search for Madeleine
Can't find an appeal page on OG Operation Grange

 

[Betty_Boop88]

I wonder if any German nationals could give us an exact translation of the following, taken from the BKA page:

“Darüber hinaus nutzte er im fraglichen Tatzeitraum mit an Sicherheit grenzender Wahrscheinlichkeit die portugiesische Mobilfunknummer + 351 912 730 680. Mit einer bislang unbekannten Person wurde am 03.05.2007 zu einer tatrelevanten Zeit im Bereich von Praia da Luz ein Telefonat geführt. Der Gesprächsteilnehmer nutzte hierbei die portugiesische Rufnummer + 351 916 510 683. Der Nutzer dieser Nummer kommt als wichtiger Zeuge in Betracht, hielt sich während des Telefonats aber nicht in dem Bereich auf.”

On Google Chrome the translation reads as:

“In addition, he used the Portuguese mobile number + 351 912 730 680 during the period in question with a probability bordering on certainty . A telephone call was made to a previously unknown person on May 3rd, 2007 at a relevant time in the area of Praia da Luz. The interlocutor used the Portuguese number + 351 916 510 683. The user of this number is considered to be an important witness , but was not in the area during the call.”

Does the German truly translate as “previously unknown”???

 

[misty48]

Made aware of what exactly? The numbers are still showing on the official BKA website appeal...

https://www.bka.de/DE/IhreSicherhei...en/43_Jaehriger_Deutscher_TV/Sachverhalt.html

I have posted from a UK perspective. Please don't shoot the messenger.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

I was wondering if, in some Websleuths's private chat discussions, anyone was able to get any relevant info about the owner of the phone number from that mysterious call?! Or is this credibly "closed" with (nothing tangible) all that info about Diogo Silva (15 yo)? Just to rule out any doubts here.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

I was wondering if, in some Websleuths's private chat discussions, anyone was able to get any relevant info about the owner of the phone number from that mysterious call?! Or is this credibly "closed" with (nothing tangible) all that info about Diogo Silva (15 yo)? Just to rule out any doubts here.

The link to the 15 yo DS was the very first person linked to the number. I think it was mentioned he may be the current owner or something? It has since been linked to NM by using a photo that wasn’t her, and also another paedophile, both links made by MWT. IIRC, someone jump in to correct me if I’m wrong.
However, Sleuthers have found an older DS that may possibly be a friend of a friend of CB, now living in South America (originally from Portugal), but there’s nothing that I’m aware of to link him to the number. Again, someone correct me if I have this skewed (bit out of the loop recently).

 

[Dlk79]

I was wondering if, in some Websleuths's private chat discussions, anyone was able to get any relevant info about the owner of the phone number from that mysterious call?! Or is this credibly "closed" with (nothing tangible) all that info about Diogo Silva (15 yo)? Just to rule out any doubts here.

The Dioga Silva link was a red herring IMO. A quick search on social media profiles brought up that name on an app that didn't even exist in 2007. Either a hoax or an innocent party using the recycled number years later I think. German LE have known of the number for 2 to 3 years and if DS was the owner back in 2007, they would have established that quite easily without having to make an appeal.

There were some reports that the owner of the phone number was tracked down. And I believe on the German crimewatch-style program, they claimed someone had called in to say they knew who the number belonged to. Not seen anything else mentioned since, wouldn't really expect to though as I don't see any benefit for German LE to make that public.

 

[Sharkbite]

As Photographer4 educated us all previously, it’s possible to extract the location a photo was taken from the exif data. It’ll give you the coordinates. It’s also possible to tell what kind of camera the photo was taken on. I wonder if those that “destroyed” his camera were able to tell LE what kind it was, and if that matches with any media of MM that may or may not exist.

Normally EXIF data will not show the location unless GPS geolocation is activated.
EXIF data can also be edited as well as deleted.
In 2007 mainstream GPS-enabled cameras were in their infancy and very expensive.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

The Dioga Silva link was a red herring IMO. A quick search on social media profiles brought up that name on an app that didn't even exist in 2007. Either a hoax or an innocent party using the recycled number years later I think. German LE have known of the number for 2 to 3 years and if DS was the owner back in 2007, they would have established that quite easily without having to make an appeal.

There were some reports that the owner of the phone number was tracked down. And I believe on the German crimewatch-style program, they claimed someone had called in to say they knew who the number belonged to. Not seen anything else mentioned since, wouldn't really expect to though as I don't see any benefit for German LE to make that public.

No benefit, agree.
But, apparently, no real development either. Don't know but final piece could be here, maybe, even if a winding and dark path still needs to be cleared.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

Normally EXIF data will not show the location unless GPS geolocation is activated.
EXIF data can also be edited as well as deleted.
In 2007 mainstream GPS-enabled cameras were in their infancy and very expensive.

I’m certainly no expert, Shark, so I’m more than willing to be corrected on this. But a quick Google search shows me that LE had the ways and means to geolocate from a photo in 2007. Specifically mentioned is it’s use in combatting child . I can’t imagine that child abusers were investing in the most up to date tech, but again I could be wrong.
NCJRS Abstract - National Criminal Justice Reference Service

Even Iraqi insurgents had the means of doing this in 2007:
Exposing the invisible

 

[Sharkbite]

I’m certainly no expert, Shark, so I’m more than willing to be corrected on this. But a quick Google search shows me that LE had the ways and means to geolocate from a photo in 2007. Specifically mentioned is it’s use in combatting child . I can’t imagine that child abusers were investing in the most up to date tech, but again I could be wrong.
NCJRS Abstract - National Criminal Justice Reference Service

Even Iraqi insurgents had the means of doing this in 2007:
Exposing the invisible

Good links with interesting info thx.

If the camera is physically unable to record GPS location then that info can never be retrieved because it never existed.

Not saying that CB couldn't have had a GPS enabled camera at the time, or that any footage found may have even been recorded on a phone, which could possibly be GPS enabled. We know that CB was sloppy and didn't delete EXIF info, at least not from the files from the box factory (mobile phones/computers were also seized).

A bit of extra info.
A list of dates in this Spiegel video, presumably from the EXIF data of the files found, shows dates from 2013, but this was only about 15 files, and there were 8000+. I would assume that these 15 were among the 100+ files that CB was in himself.
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[Betty_Boop88]

Good links with interesting info thx.

If the camera is physically unable to record GPS location then that info can never be retrieved because it never existed.

Not saying that CB couldn't have had a GPS enabled camera at the time, or that any footage found may have even been recorded on a phone, which would be GPS enabled. We know that CB was sloppy and didn't delete EXIF info, at least from the files from the box factory (mobile phones/computers were also seized).

A bit of extra info.
A list of dates in this Spiegel video, presumably from the EXIF data of the files found, shows dates from 2013, but this was only about 15 files, and there were 8000+. I would assume that these 15 were among the 100+ files that CB was in himself.
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Thanks for the link. From what you say, it would certainly suggest to me he either upgraded his camera/phone for the 15 files, or maybe the files were all from different sources and those 15 were the only ones with geolocation enabled?
It’s difficult to know for certain as he was known to steal cameras in supposed abundance and also to bury his stash. Who knows how many he buried and in how many different locations, hence the searches.

I did find the following Wikipedia page interesting. Some camera brands had external geolocation enabled as far back as 2001. If he was stealing expensive cameras from wealthy Algarve residents and all he needed to supply was his own cheap memory card and a connection to some other device, then it’s not out of the realm of possibility that LE have media of MM and a possible location of whatever happened to her. Pure speculation on my part, though.
List of cameras which provide geotagging - Wikipedia

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I think in the video/photographic evidence, if that’s what they have, is of MM dead unfortunately. Not of any abuse just MM perceived dead which they can predict she was most likely abused. The only thing they seem certain of if her death.

I’m wondering if German LE have a video or picture of MM, perhaps deceased but nothing else in the footage or image links it to CB.

Additionally, I wonder if there are metadata matches like coordinates, camera type, settings that match images or footage that is confirmed to have been taken by CB or he is a subject in it?

with this in mind, do we know who owned the camera that took the Malaga footage?

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Thanks for the link. From what you say, it would certainly suggest to me he either upgraded his camera/phone for the 15 files, or maybe the files were all from different sources and those 15 were the only ones with geolocation enabled?
It’s difficult to know for certain as he was known to steal cameras in supposed abundance and also to bury his stash. Who knows how many he buried and in how many different locations, hence the searches.

I did find the following Wikipedia page interesting. Some camera brands had external geolocation enabled as far back as 2001. If he was stealing expensive cameras from wealthy Algarve residents and all he needed to supply was his own cheap memory card and a connection to some other device, then it’s not out of the realm of possibility that LE have media of MM and a possible location of whatever happened to her. Pure speculation on my part, though.
List of cameras which provide geotagging - Wikipedia

In 2007, we know he was using the Casio Exilim. There is one in the list above but not sure if it’s the same one he used. If this camera did have this feature then it would provide a lot of info ... even after it was destroyed.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

In 2007, we know he was using the Casio Exilim. There is one in the list above but not sure if it’s the same one he used. If this camera did have this feature then it would provide a lot of info ... even after it was destroyed.

The Casio Exilim was the one that was reported as “confiscated” by LE, and apparently used to take photos of his abuse of his ex’s daughter in 2013. I don’t know that we have the make of camera that was “destroyed”.

Madeleine McCann suspect Brueckner 'broke into hotel rooms and flats on Algarve'

Madeleine McCann prime suspect was found with secret stash of 391 child photos and 68 videos | Daily Mail Online

 

[Sharkbite]

In 2007, we know he was using the Casio Exilim. There is one in the list above but not sure if it’s the same one he used. If this camera did have this feature then it would provide a lot of info ... even after it was destroyed.

The files found at the box factory came from a Casio Exilim EX-Z850 produced from 2006 and with no GPS abilities.
The only Casio on the Wiki list of GPS enabled cameras is the Exilim EX-H20G first produced from 2010

Im having a brain block, how is it we know he was using the Casio Exilim in 2007?

 

[Betty_Boop88]

The files found at the box factory came from a Casio Exilim EX-Z850 produced from 2006 and with no GPS abilities.
The only Casio on the Wiki list of GPS enabled cameras is the Exilim EX-H20G first produced from 2010

Im having a brain block, how is it we know he was using the Casio Exilim in 2007?

I’ve read nothing to say what kind of camera he was using in 2007. Only that the Exilim was used to record the abuse of his ex’s daughter in 2013 and was the same one used to download >300 abuse images, later confiscated by LE.