Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #23

[dsheal]

Well, that's what I'm trying find out, as it makes sense now, and wouldn't of done in June 2007, if you know what I mean

Madeleine McCann: A timeline of events since the three-year-old disappeared nine years ago today

Does anyone know about this Joyce Joyce sighting? I can’t find anything but I’m still looking...

 

[dsheal]

Sniffer dogs tracked Maddy to supermarket | Daily Mail Online

Could this have been the Jaguar?

 

[dsheal]

I searched the PJ files for JJ’s statement - or her husbands - and couldn’t find anything at all or even similar when searching the terms “black saloon”. If someone else wants to casts their eyes on that though, please do!

 

[Victoria Chambers]

I have alwayss believed this case to be 50/50 either or! Either MM was targeted by a paedophile abductor for himself Or MM was targeted purely for monetary profit and taken to somebody else. Sadly, Either is no better than Or and vice versa. My reasons for thinking the latter are, there seems to be no trace of MM in Portugal. The next reported 'sighting' after the Smiths that looked promising, was at a Service station around 2am on 4th May, in a vehicle with 2 men and 1 woman if I remember rightly! The Countries border gives entry to its nearest neighbour in 90 minutes. The boats too, would work. Human trafficking in itself is big business. Enter HB! I must admit, him and his criminal past cropping up swayed me more. Also, I PROMISE you hand on heart, in amongst the files is a short typed letter, signed by a PJ officer tho' not GA. It refers to MW, a service station along a particular route and either a phone tower or a GPS sat nav, definitevley placing MW in Morocco within days of MM abduction.. the officer states she was merely at a JW meeting and there is no law against that!! What the letter doesn't say is WHY MW chose not to mention that she attended a congregation in Morocco in her interviews OR why this letter has not been placed with MW documents. The letter is not where 1 would expect to find it. I shall search thoroughly this time! There is also the reported sightings over the years from inside Morrocco of the the 'blonde girl with the eye' that some people actually think is MM. Very Strange!

 

[SuperdadV8]

I've got doubt, about the Morocco theories. Until today i see not a single link between MM and Morocco, except one or two alleged sightings, partly ruled out, that have been made all over the world either. The government of Morocco confirmed in the past, that there is not a single clue of MM being in Morocco.

In correlation to the actual suspect, i do not see any link to Morocco either. There are many reports about frequenting europe committing theft, burglaries and child abuse there.

But not any single link between CB, Africa or human trafficking is known or has been reported, except one single statement of NF's dad of transporting kids/drugs and maybe MT's assumption (!) of CB to have sold MM, "maybe" to Marocco. That ist too less for me to follow that theory!

I would even assume that IF CB may have boasted around trafficking minors around his "inner circle" or "criminal scene", it would likely be more a smokescreen, to disguise his real interest in children, if he may have been seen with one. Just not to attract attention as a peado. Just imagine someone, maybe another criminal, asking about children's swimsuits in his vehicles? What answer would a "hidden paedo" and criminal make? Would he admit to be into that stuff, or would he say, i make money by trafficking kids to become a rich guy! Maybe to be admired?

Many paedos or molesters show such a behavior in close relation to their "normal life" or profession. Teachers, clergymen, neighbours, relatives. They act like impostors, just not to be recognized.

But it's just a thought....

 

[Lilly b]

I have alwayss believed this case to be 50/50 either or! Either MM was targeted by a paedophile abductor for himself Or MM was targeted purely for monetary profit and taken to somebody else. Sadly, Either is no better than Or and vice versa. My reasons for thinking the latter are, there seems to be no trace of MM in Portugal. The next reported 'sighting' after the Smiths that looked promising, was at a Service station around 2am on 4th May, in a vehicle with 2 men and 1 woman if I remember rightly! The Countries border gives entry to its nearest neighbour in 90 minutes. The boats too, would work. Human trafficking in itself is big business. Enter HB! I must admit, him and his criminal past cropping up swayed me more. Also, I PROMISE you hand on heart, in amongst the files is a short typed letter, signed by a PJ officer tho' not GA. It refers to MW, a service station along a particular route and either a phone tower or a GPS sat nav, definitevley placing MW in Morocco within days of MM abduction.. the officer states she was merely at a JW meeting and there is no law against that!! What the letter doesn't say is WHY MW chose not to mention that she attended a congregation in Morocco in her interviews OR why this letter has not been placed with MW documents. The letter is not where 1 would expect to find it. I shall search thoroughly this time! There is also the reported sightings over the years from inside Morrocco of the the 'blonde girl with the eye' that some people actually think is MM. Very Strange!

Yes, so she went missing that evening, and then if taken by car, to god knows where, and then police arrive, an hour or so later, people all looking in the immediate vicinity, she was gone, none of the leads followed up with much gust, just read the final report in the PJ files, it's like, oh we looked into that, but nothing, and it seems very casual, all bits about known paedophiles are missing, poor little mm didn't stand a chance of being found, GA, well there was no break in, yes we know that the bloody patio doors were unlocked, oh must be the parents then, and that's that,

 

[redplanet]

Sniffer dogs tracked Maddy to supermarket | Daily Mail Online

Could this have been the Jaguar?

The sighting was "near the supermarket". The supermarket was open until at least 20:00 (JM went there to buy bread at about 19:50).

 

[redplanet]

I have alwayss believed this case to be 50/50 either or! Either MM was targeted by a paedophile abductor for himself Or MM was targeted purely for monetary profit and taken to somebody else. Sadly, Either is no better than Or and vice versa. My reasons for thinking the latter are, there seems to be no trace of MM in Portugal. The next reported 'sighting' after the Smiths that looked promising, was at a Service station around 2am on 4th May, in a vehicle with 2 men and 1 woman if I remember rightly! The Countries border gives entry to its nearest neighbour in 90 minutes. The boats too, would work. Human trafficking in itself is big business. Enter HB! I must admit, him and his criminal past cropping up swayed me more. Also, I PROMISE you hand on heart, in amongst the files is a short typed letter, signed by a PJ officer tho' not GA. It refers to MW, a service station along a particular route and either a phone tower or a GPS sat nav, definitevley placing MW in Morocco within days of MM abduction.. the officer states she was merely at a JW meeting and there is no law against that!! What the letter doesn't say is WHY MW chose not to mention that she attended a congregation in Morocco in her interviews OR why this letter has not been placed with MW documents. The letter is not where 1 would expect to find it. I shall search thoroughly this time! There is also the reported sightings over the years from inside Morrocco of the the 'blonde girl with the eye' that some people actually think is MM. Very Strange!

Your placing of MW at a bible meeting in Morocco is incorrect and unfair IMO. The service station you refer to is presumably the Galp m24 on the route A22, and the bible meeting you refer to was IMO in Lagos, both of these locations being (last time I checked) situated in Portugal.

 

[tedtink]

Maddie suspect won’t be charged over £1k cell rampage and still wants compensation

'Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told The Sun: ''It has been decided to discontinue the investigation, with the agreement of the court in Braunschweig, as the accused is now serving seven years for rape.

"It would not be worth carrying on with the investigation but the counter claims from his lawyer that his client was attacked are still being looked into and no decision has yet been taken.''

 

[SuperdadV8]

Maddie suspect won’t be charged over £1k cell rampage and still wants compensation

'Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told The Sun: ''It has been decided to discontinue the investigation, with the agreement of the court in Braunschweig, as the accused is now serving seven years for rape.

"It would not be worth carrying on with the investigation but the counter claims from his lawyer that his client was attacked are still being looked into and no decision has yet been taken.''

Interesting! In germany we have a sagacity! It can be translated as, "You can't grab into a naked man's pocket!". Although the legal claim for damages last up some more years than seven, maybe they know, that there will be no compensation at all for a longer time maybe!

 

[Trivento]

Interesting! In germany we have a sagacity! It can be translated as, "You can't grab into a naked man's pocket!". Although the legal claim for damages last up some more years than seven, maybe they know, that there will be no compensation at all for a longer time maybe!

And if a longer time is on cards , hope the German police , no matter what we all may think of CB if he is guilty MM-wise , don’t give him or his lawyers ammunition to claim for reductions in a potential sentence ( eg. by some sort of mistreatment)...that wouldn’t be justice for MM or her family IMO.
He needs handled with “kid gloves “ in a way perhaps , if the most severe sting in the tail is to be given to him eventually, if indeed guilty , and would therefore be just desserts.

 

[SuperdadV8]

And if a longer time is on cards , hope the German police , no matter what we all may think of CB if he is guilty MM-wise , don’t give him or his lawyers ammunition to claim for reductions in a potential sentence...that wouldn’t be justice for MM or her family IMO.

Yes, there is a chance that it could be some kind of strategy! There are strictly rules about compensations of damage on public property in germany. Even if the investigations against CB will have no result, the officials could charge him for the damage.

IF they dispense to charge him for the damage, it could likely be a strategy to avoid sideline theaters. Maybe they are focused on other things. The secrecy and silence makes me hopeful to solve the case.

 

[snowpea666]

Your placing of MW at a bible meeting in Morocco is incorrect and unfair IMO. The service station you refer to is presumably the Galp m24 on the route A22, and the bible meeting you refer to was IMO in Lagos, both of these locations being (last time I checked) situated in Portugal.

And dont forget it turned out she was not at the bible meeting, nor had been for several months ? so why lie ? always thought this was strange!

 

[Victoria Chambers]

Your placing of MW at a bible meeting in Morocco is incorrect and unfair IMO. The service station you refer to is presumably the Galp m24 on the route A22, and the bible meeting you refer to was IMO in Lagos, both of these locations being (last time I checked) situated in Portugal.

My comment is absolutely correct and very fair! 'Presumably' you are are referring to MW attending Bible class in Lagos on the night of May 3rd, as she said so in her statement?? Well, I am not talking about the 3rd. She did visit Morocco some time after-the-fact. The diligence and monitoring of certain individuals placed her there. But there is nothing in the files to suggest she was questioned about it. Only that 1 letter that proves LE obviously did ask Why she went there. And it also said her reason was that she was no longer welcome at Lagos class due to extra marital affairs - so was she lying about the fall-out having blown over since she was back attending Lagos class apparently.. Or was she lying about her reason for being in Morocco? Its not something I would or even could lie about. It's in the files!

 

[Trivento]

While browsing about Morocco I saw a Mirror article about an incident at PDL Appt.5A...6 months before MM disappeared..it mentions a British babysitter of a 6yr old boy ...while child sleeping ...on return from getting something to eat claims she disturbed a man trying to lift window shutters of 5A...he then fled.
Not sure if much came of this report..

 

[Dave55]

While browsing about Morocco I saw a Mirror article about an incident at PDL Appt.5A...6 months before MM disappeared..it mentions a British babysitter of a 6yr old boy ...while child sleeping ...on return from getting something to eat claims she disturbed a man trying to lift window shutters of 5A...he then fled.
Not sure if much came of this report..

 

[Dave55]

Do you have a link to this article. Was dheva MW nanny and had she left s child sleeping whilst she popped out for something to eat

 

[Trivento]

Do you have a link to this article. Was dheva MW nanny and had she left s child sleeping whilst she popped out for something to eat

Yes..here it is..from Nov.2007..updated Feb.2012

Maddy's in perfect hiding place..alive

 

[Lilly b]

Yes..here it is..from Nov.2007..updated Feb.2012

Maddy's in perfect hiding place..alive

Bit more info

Madeleine: Nanny 'caught stranger hiding outside apartment before she disappeared' | Daily Mail Online

 

[Carly@lul]

Someone reported MW knocking at her door with a faith leaflet too, weeks before MM went missing she too had a young daughter. I will try and find link.