Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #23

[mrjitty]

Are there any cases of people stealing european kids under age 5 and selling them?

 

[JB1510]

Bit more info

Madeleine: Nanny 'caught stranger hiding outside apartment before she disappeared' | Daily Mail Online

Couldn’t have been CB if summer of 06 as he was in jail ,
unless her timeline is wrong . Sadly not many serial offenders rehabilitate under such short sentences , in fact many re strategise or plan something bigger. I have found this forum a huge resource of information so many thanks to all who go out of their way to translate all German and Portuguese media outputs. I think they will persevere with the other solid cases they potentially have on CB so it may well be they work backwards and around to solve MM disappearance so be it , he’s going nowhere for a while . I personally think CB is part of a bigger picture and very well
could be high on the chain of an organised darknet group.

I like to think I know a fair bit about this case now thanks to all the info provided here but trying to keep track of things is confusing sometimes to say the least . I really wish Netflix would update another episode to highlight
what info is now available from Bild , Spiegel , Sextas 9, 60 minutes etc and try to define a constructive timeline around CB and his acquaintances , there may well be people who will remember CB from other people associated with him rather than him and the van . Those hippy festivals and pizza/ drug parties I think could provide potential further leads . It deserves maximum publicity instead of being buried in the wealth of information the numerous threads here have provided and reach a wider audience that reflects the numerous amount of different European nationals who frequented the Algarve .

 

[Lilly b]

Couldn’t have been CB if summer of 06 as he was in jail ,
unless her timeline is wrong . Sadly not many serial offenders rehabilitate under such short sentences , in fact many re strategise or plan something bigger. I have found this forum a huge resource of information so many thanks to all who go out of their way to translate all German and Portuguese media outputs. I think they will persevere with the other solid cases they potentially have on CB so it may well be they work backwards and around to solve MM disappearance so be it , he’s going nowhere for a while . I personally think CB is part of a bigger picture and very well
could be high on the chain of an organised darknet group.

I like to think I know a fair bit about this case now thanks to all the info provided here but trying to keep track of things is confusing sometimes to say the least . I really wish Netflix would update another episode to highlight
what info is now available from Bild , Spiegel , Sextas 9, 60 minutes etc and try to define a constructive timeline around CB and his acquaintances , there may well be people who will remember CB from other people associated with him rather than him and the van . Those hippy festivals and pizza/ drug parties I think could provide potential further leads . It deserves maximum publicity instead of being buried in the wealth of information the numerous threads here have provided and reach a wider audience that reflects the numerous amount of different European nationals who frequented the Algarve .

And it does say dark haired man, too, it is amazing though, how many strange goings on in PDL through the years

 

[Carly@lul]

She later said I could of been RM

 

[redplanet]

My comment is absolutely correct and very fair! 'Presumably' you are are referring to MW attending Bible class in Lagos on the night of May 3rd, as she said so in her statement?? Well, I am not talking about the 3rd. She did visit Morocco some time after-the-fact. The diligence and monitoring of certain individuals placed her there. But there is nothing in the files to suggest she was questioned about it. Only that 1 letter that proves LE obviously did ask Why she went there. And it also said her reason was that she was no longer welcome at Lagos class due to extra marital affairs - so was she lying about the fall-out having blown over since she was back attending Lagos class apparently.. Or was she lying about her reason for being in Morocco? Its not something I would or even could lie about. It's in the files!

Do you have a source for your claim that MW attended JW meetings in Morocco please??

 

[SuperdadV8]

What has happened, that MW came in focus again?

The suspect is named as CB and RM and maybe MW did get a compensation for being accused without any reason....

 

[redplanet]

Yes..here it is..from Nov.2007..updated Feb.2012

Maddy's in perfect hiding place..alive

"The man was trying to get in the same window police think Madeleine's abductors may have used. It happened six months before Madeleine disappeared."
Six months before would be early November. However it is interesting that another newspaper is more precise and states this window attempt was in December. Was CB out of jail in Dec 2006?

 

[redplanet]

What has happened, that MW came in focus again?

The suspect is named as CB and RM and maybe MW did get a compensation for being accused without any reason....

Yes, agreed, RM and MW deserve to be left in peace.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Yes, agreed, RM and MW deserve to be left in peace.

I wouldn't say that RM doesn't seem to affect some uncomfortable feelings in my belly, but according to the MM podcast, HCW doesn't seem to care about the PJ/OG investigations, that had been made.

Obviously he has other approaches. So RM and MW do not play any role im the current investigation.

And as i said before, there isn't any link between MM and Africa, except assumptions.

 

[Trivento]

"The man was trying to get in the same window police think Madeleine's abductors may have used. It happened six months before Madeleine disappeared."
Six months before would be early November. However it is interesting that another newspaper is more precise and states this window attempt was in December. Was CB out of jail in Dec 2006?

Seems to be some conflicting info about this incident...have seen a few articles now...most list babysitter as an MH..was babysitting a girl ( not a boy as one of the Mirror articles said ) it seems ..and happened Aug/Sep 2006 ( also mentioned in Summers/Swan and PJ files ) . Have read MH was employed as a babysitter by Mk.W from Oct.2006..perhaps worked privately as a babysitter before this ? This is also curious as it’s reported she told her bosses “ at the resort “ about it the next day..! If she wasn’t employed as a babysitter by Mk.W till Oct. 2006 then how could incident have been in Aug/Sep 2006...? ( unless she “completed” her babysitter stint in Oct 2006 actually )
You said you saw something about it happening in Dec. 2006..?
Whatever night it happened perhaps could be an interesting date for examination of phone records/pings etc.
Anyone know exact date of CB prison release in Dec 2006 ?

 

[Sharkbite]

Anyone know exact date of CB prison release in Dec 2006 ?

MT/CB's trial was the 21st December, so probably released the same day.

 

[Lilly b]

Are there any cases of people stealing european kids under age 5 and selling them?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11827...-kidnapping-kids-sell-sex-slaves-paedophiles/

 

[Trivento]

Thanks for that link , very informative particularly if
the timeline of rave parties prior to MM disappearance are
Dec 06 to May 3rd .Theres a good chance some videos of the raves uploaded somewhere by Portuguese , German , Dutch , English etc party goers. Does anyone with a local knowledge know the names of the the raves or where they exactly were . Definitely worth checking native language uploads relevant to this areas party scene, it may also tie in the lookalike / brother blonde guy . Out of interest do we know what BP looks like ?. I remember on those Portuguese tv segments a couple who knew CB and NF and said BP was CB’s best mate.

In the message here you mention “from 6 Dec 2006 “ was curious what this date signifies..?
You were responding to a news clip that mentioned a jail term of 258 days...perhaps you were counting on from date of start of the incarceration..?

 

[Trivento]

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MT/CB's trial was the 21st December, so probably released the same day.

Yes ..thanks , also the article attached here mentions him being arrested on April 8th 2006 , so , as has been mentioned just above , a 258 day sentence would see him being released about 21st / 22nd Dec 2006 , as you have said .
Van used by suspect in Madeleine McCann case was ‘sold for scrap’

 

[JB1510]

In the message here you mention “from 6 Dec 2006 “ was curious what this date signifies..?
You were responding to a news clip that mentioned a jail term of 258 days...perhaps you were counting on from date of start of the incarceration..?

Just December 2006 when he was released from jail not the sixth day as written .I’m unaware of his actual release date.

 

[JB1510]

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MT/CB's trial was the 21st December, so probably released the same day.

Thanks for confirming.

 

[Trivento]

Just December 2006 when he was released from jail not the sixth day as written .I’m unaware of his actual release date.

Thanks..I was misinterpreting a bit what you had written.

 

[JB1510]

Thanks..I was misinterpreting a bit what you had written.

Easily done , I can’t imagine how difficult it must be for LE liaising 3 different jurisdictions/ languages ! .

 

[JB1510]

Sorry to go slightly off topic for a second , did the German Police solve the DM rape by getting the hair sample from PJ and running it against their own national database ?

 

[mrjitty]

Are there any cases of people stealing european kids under age 5 and selling them?

guess not