Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #24

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Does anyone have access to any german papers to confirm the latest news
 
  • #262
Does anyone have access to any german papers to confirm the latest news
You can get bild news in English, or the German then Google translate
 
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Too high risk imo...if CB took MM out of 5A he was clever enough I think to not leave a trace of his presence...if he took possessions out of there and he was found with them or selling them...would have been a clear sign he was connected to 5A events somehow or other...
Taking belongings would have helped police investigation...something else to link him...CB wouldn't have wanted that.

Not only that but also if CB (or any other kidnapper for that matter) were to take stuff from the apartment (beside MM) that would exclude right away many other options like the GA "theory" or some "ideas" like MM exiting to the outside of the apartment by herself, etc...
MM kidnapper could have enterer the room to search for goods to steal and decided to take MM instead as motivation might have turned intro sexual making the way to operate "different" from a "regular burglary". Also the kidnaper might have decided to get MM and exited the apartment returning later/on the next day. If MM was taken by a sexual abuser most likely the abuser would want to dispose of her later not to be linked to the crime and with her he would had to dispose of all goods/belongings so stealing material stuff would be pointless as soon as he decided to get MM.
 
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i think this case involves many people connected to human smuggling, fraud and trafficking and other crimes. it’s just the tip of the iceberg and CB is just the active pawn. MM’s mother was right. If you read KM’s book you feel she knows more than she says and had noticed even CB himself watching her daughter. she has a mother’s 6th sense and she was right all along.
 
  • #267
On the mentioned article here :

Maddie cops given dramatic new evidence against prime suspect Christian B

This for me is relevant :

And he added: “We have found no evidence that suggests he is not guilty of this crime and we have found a lot of evidence that suggests he is guilty but I am forbidden to go into these details.”

For me HCW does have new info that even if it's not forensic neither direct evidences or witness that new info could be related to actions or attitudes of CB even over other matters that make him even more "suspicious" of having something to do with MM crime.
 
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Not only that but also if CB (or any other kidnapper for that matter) were to take stuff from the apartment (beside MM) that would exclude right away many other options like the GA "theory" or some "ideas" like MM exiting to the outside of the apartment by herself, etc...

Yes...indeed …if a perp only takes the child ( and not belongings also ) , they are probably devious enough to know that they can then hide behind the mystery and ambiguity…knowing that people might speculate that something more innocent occurred.
 
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Yes...indeed …if a perp only takes the child ( and not belongings also ) , they are probably devious enough to know that they can then hide behind the mystery and ambiguity…knowing that people might speculate that something more innocent occurred.

Although ..leaving the windows open is a bit of a giveaway of an intruder..perhaps wasn’t part of plan originally …a hurried exit...or just brazenly didn’t care about leaving such a sign ..?
 
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Anyone who believes CB took Madeleine, but being the thief that he was left the McCann belongings untouched , will need to sit me down and explain why .
I would just add to the good replies others have given, that quite simply he would have had his hands full.
 
  • #271
This is a super curious press hit.

The "concrete evidence" is not really different to previous statements.

HCW says he has received new evidence but still only hopes to charge in the future - so why do this media hit? Charge when you are ready to charge? But instead we have these multiple press hits trailing the idea of charging in the future, the last of which was walked back

I really don't understand the purpose of these hits

Possibly the Sun harassed him for a new statement, given that it was MM's birthday & they were planning to run an article.
 
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Anyone who believes CB took Madeleine, but being the thief that he was left the McCann belongings untouched , will need to sit me down and explain why .
Who says he was there for material possessions?
 
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My theory based on observing the apartment and the environs is that the opened window was NOT to get in or out but A - let in natural light into the room to avoid switching on the lights. (Btw - 5a parking lot used to be lined with trees, now cut down) B - be able to listen to somebody approaching the apartment from the front or hanging out in the parking lot, like the neighbours.
 
  • #274
i think this case involves many people connected to human smuggling, fraud and trafficking and other crimes. it’s just the tip of the iceberg and CB is just the active pawn. MM’s mother was right. If you read KM’s book you feel she knows more than she says and had noticed even CB himself watching her daughter. she has a mother’s 6th sense and she was right all along.
hmmm I kind of agree except from the "just" part. imo CB was a perv all along but he builds a multi criminal carreer on the way likely with others
 
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Possibly the Sun harassed him for a new statement, given that it was MM's birthday & they were planning to run an article.

Possibly. It's curious that the broadsheet statement got walked back - indicates he might have gone to far in his previous comments.

What continues to intrigue me is why he is running UK media hits when the criminal and his associates are german, and the crime was committed in portugal.

This drip drip would indicate to me he is trying to pressure someone who would be following the UK media.
 
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Possibly. It's curious that the broadsheet statement got walked back - indicates he might have gone to far in his previous comments.

What continues to intrigue me is why he is running UK media hits when the criminal and his associates are german, and the crime was committed in portugal.

This drip drip would indicate to me he is trying to pressure someone who would be following the UK media.

Could be..
Was it the walking back of the tour rep HB charging story you are referring to ?
Or did a MM related statement also get walked back ?
With respect are you just seeing mainly the UK press stories because you live there perhaps ?
Maybe there are similar HCW statements being released in German press simultaneously..?
I'm not sure if this the case or not...
If your suspicion correct then would be intriguing indeed !
 
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Possibly the Sun harassed him for a new statement, given that it was MM's birthday & they were planning to run an article.

Think correct..
MM a UK citizen..so the UK press hassle HCW more for statements and info , than press from most other countries...imo
 
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hmmm I kind of agree except from the "just" part. imo CB was a perv all along but he builds a multi criminal carreer on the way likely with others
I agree with you though. what I meant by using “just “ is that he’s part of a circle of criminals and pervs like him or even worse than him. (I can’t imagine worse than “mord/murder”, but I hope my imagination is limited).
 
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Could be..
Was it the walking back of the tour rep HB charging story you are referring to ?
Or did a MM related statement also get walked back ?
With respect are you just seeing mainly the UK press stories because you live there perhaps ?
Maybe there are similar HCW statements being released in German press simultaneously..?
I'm not sure if this the case or not...
If your suspicion correct then would be intriguing indeed !
nothing on the german press I check everyday. there was only a small article due to M s birthday
 
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