Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #24

[Lilly b]

Just a random question, maybe related to the MM case. If i would be someone that is planning to build up a darkweb paedo or "fetish" forum and i do not have children, where do i get the footage from? CB is reported to have buried footage that shows himself whilst being "tow-balling" and "workbench-abusing", together with already known darkweb paedo stuff.

CMK was hosting such a "forum" from paraguay. Of course, some sites got closed so these perps take the footage on to the next site. Of course, as hard as it sounds, i recognized that these "forums" stay alive, because members are producing new horrible footage by abusing even own children.

Neither CB nor CMK have children but are said to busy in hosting or keeping/producing footage.

But how has that been in the beginning, around the mid 2000's? To build up that business, you must build up some kind of base with material/footage?!

Could that explain the reports of torture- recorded on video like in the HB and maybe the DM case and the skype conversation from around 2013?

And maybe MM as well?

Could that be subsumed under satisfaction or "job"? Or even both???

I have no idea, but I believe they have a website, that gets closed, so they start another, and it just goes on and on and on

 

[Sagwa]

DP

 

[Sagwa]

Just a random question, maybe related to the MM case. If i would be someone that is planning to build up a darkweb paedo or "fetish" forum and i do not have children, where do i get the footage from? CB is reported to have buried footage that shows himself whilst being "tow-balling" and "workbench-abusing", together with already known darkweb paedo stuff.

CMK was hosting such a "forum" from paraguay. Of course, some sites got closed so these perps take the footage on to the next site. Of course, as hard as it sounds, i recognized that these "forums" stay alive, because members are producing new horrible footage by abusing even own children.

Neither CB nor CMK have children but are said to busy in hosting or keeping/producing footage.

But how has that been in the beginning, around the mid 2000's? To build up that business, you must build up some kind of base with material/footage?!

Could that explain the reports of torture- recorded on video like in the HB and maybe the DM case and the skype conversation from around 2013?

And maybe MM as well?

Could that be subsumed under satisfaction or "job"? Or even both???

Hey Superdad:
In the 2000s, it was actually easier to share files, songs, videos, etc. even illegally. What became now TOR (DW) was known then as Torrents. You share torrents when you download software that access your data via P2P. Torrents are bits of a file.
You allow members to access your PC and upload data directly from your PC.
One very popular sharing-files software is called Onion, another Tomato. The software is like the layers of an onion: You share bits of a video, song, etc. The video gets divided into bits. Your computer accesses those bits via the internet to members' PC. Say you have a video of 5 minutes: Onion would collects bits of 59 seconds from PC1, another from PC2, etc. until it downloads all the bits into one video. Hence, copyrights are bypassed, so it's legal.
It was easier then too to share and watch "safely" videos.

Also, at that time encryption was easier, even Yahoo! allowed anyone to email encrypted files. So, you can easily send encrypted files, with an email...

 

[SuperdadV8]

Hey Superdad:
In the 2000s, it was actually easier to share files, songs, videos, etc. even illegally. What became now TOR (DW) was known then as Torrents. You share torrents when you download software that access your data via P2P. Torrents are bits of a file.
You allow members to access your PC and upload data directly from your PC.
One very popular sharing-files software is called Onion, another Tomato. The software is like the layers of an onion: You share bits of a video, song, etc. The video gets divided into bits. Your computer accesses those bits via the internet to members' PC. Say you have a video of 5 minutes: Onion would collects bits of 59 seconds from PC1, another from PC2, etc. until it downloads all the bits into one video. Hence, copyrights are bypassed, so it's legal.
It was easier then too to share and watch "safely" videos.

Also, at that time encryption was easier, even Yahoo! allowed anyone to email encrypted files. So, you can easily send encrypted files, with an email...

Right, dear Sagwa!

But to share something, you have to produce or deliver something!

There are reports of torture- recorded by the perps at Algarve at least from 2004.

So....where do have got peados the material to be part of web-communities, based on sharing, without having children. Where do they their "entry ticket" from....?

Or even built up their own darkweb-community!?

 

[Sagwa]

Right dear Sagwa!

But to share something, you have to produce something!

There are reports of torture- recorded by the perps at Algarve at least from 2004.

So....where do have got peados the material to be part of web-communities, based on sharing, without having children. Where do they their "entry ticket" from....?

Or even built up their own darkweb-community!?

Generally, according to FBI research and from what I read, unfortunately, family members abuse the children...in CB's case: abduction and rape...
So, these sickos have 2 sources: 1- their family
2- weak, vulnerable victims. Pedos save their collections very wholeheartedly... It's their most treasured thing on earth...When CB was digging the tunnel, he was building a safe for his sick collection, IMO..

 

[SuperdadV8]

Generally, according to FBI research and from what I read, unfortunately, family members abuse the children...in CB's case: abduction and rape...
So, these sickos have 2 sources: 1- their family
2- weak, vulnerable victims. Pedos save their collections very wholeheartedly... It's their most treasured thing on earth...When CB was digging the tunnel, he was building a safe for his sick collection, IMO..

That's obviously a fact!

 

[Tekno]

Generally, according to FBI research and from what I read, unfortunately, family members abuse the children...in CB's case: abduction and rape...
So, these sickos have 2 sources: 1- their family
2- weak, vulnerable victims. Pedos save their collections very wholeheartedly... It's their most treasured thing on earth...When CB was digging the tunnel, he was building a safe for his sick collection, IMO..

They also immerse themselves in regular non-conspicuous settings, i.e. teaching, caretakers, sport coaches, scouting activities etc. IMO.

 

[Sagwa]

They also immerse themselves in regular non-conspicuous settings, i.e. teaching, caretakers, sport coaches, scouting activities etc. IMO.

Yes, they do. Many work in schools.... so creepy

 

[SuperdadV8]

They also immerse themselves in regular non-conspicuous settings, i.e. teaching, caretakers, sport coaches, scouting activities etc. IMO.

Right! But where is that footage from. We aren't talking about a web - connected society in 2021. We are talking about 2007, a time without smartphones.

MT is reported to have spoken about stags of categorized perversions in CB's home...don't know what is it been called. ?!

No, it's footage including perverted content. And he seems to have lived together with CB until being imprisoned in 2006!

Hard to think, that in 2006 every perversion was available in the thing, we call web in 2021!

Who fed the web? Filesharing has been that popular around that time?

AFAIK filesharing portals had been free to use, but CB has been keen on making money....

The question is, what could have been the entry ticket in that digital world almost 15 years ago, if you were a lone criminal drifter, looking to be somebody with money and fuel-theft had brought you straight into prison?!

 

[Sagwa]

Right! But where is that footage from. We aren't talking about a web - connected society in 2021. We are talking about 2007, a time without smartphones.

MT is reported to have spoken about stags of categorized perversions in CB's home...don't know what is it been called. ?!

No, it's footage including perverted content. And he seems to have lived together with CB until being imprisoned in 2006!

Hard to think, that in 2006 every perversion was available in the thing, we call web in 2021!

Who fed the web? Filesharing has been that popular around that time?

AFAIK filesharing portals had been free to use, but CB has been keen on making money....

Actually, it was easier as you go back in time....i.e. sharing in 2000 was easier than in 2007, etc.
was everywhere on the web...

 

[Sagwa]

isn’t the 5th picture before last (counting from the last photo where the VW photo released taken Mendel sleuthing for a while? according to this that is where Smithman ended. it makes sens if you look at the picture. i think the puzzle is solved. the video was taken by the beach maybe in VW. IMO. I may be wrong. what do you think? f) Smithman’s Objective?

 

[Lilly b]

They also immerse themselves in regular non-conspicuous settings, i.e. teaching, caretakers, sport coaches, scouting activities etc. IMO.

What about in prison, a lot seem to get short sentences and aren't paedos segregated from other prisoners? They can share a lot of information between themselves

 

[Tekno]

Right! But where is that footage from. We aren't talking about a web - connected society in 2021. We are talking about 2007, a time without smartphones.

MT is reported to have spoken about stags of categorized perversions in CB's home...don't know what is it been called. ?!

No, it's footage including perverted content. And he seems to have lived together with CB until being imprisoned in 2006!

Hard to think, that in 2006 every perversion was available in the thing, we call web in 2021!

Who fed the web? Filesharing has been that popular around that time?

AFAIK filesharing portals had been free to use, but CB has been keen on making money....

The question is, what could have been the entry ticket in that digital world almost 15 years ago, if you were a lone criminal drifter, looking to be somebody with money and fuel-theft had brought you straight into prison?!

This is interesting: Deep web - Wikipedia

 

[Lilly b]

Update from today

Madeleine McCann: Police have been investigating prime suspect in case for four years

 

[Okapi]

Interesting @Lilly b

Mr Wolters said: "We are speaking with witnesses and interviewing a lot of people. We are making progress."

I wonder who.

 

[Okapi]

Another review of the disappearance and investigation, interestingly it discusses the circumstances of the Tapas group's checking system. This is part 1 of the story.

What Happened to Madeleine McCann: A Child Goes Missing, Precious Time Is Wasted and the Nightmare Begins - E! Online

 

[Deleted member 268165]

@Sagwa, are you talking about the little beach to the West?

 

[Sagwa]

@Sagwa, are you talking about the little beach to the West?

yes. doesn’t it look close to where the VW van parked in the LE released photo

 

[Sagwa]

but then can the van drive there? is there a road. too many missing clues....

 

[tedtink]

but then can the van drive there? is there a road. too many missing clues....

Which LE beach pic are you referring to?
One location, where the VW was parked,(LE released Pic) has already been ID'd on here as Barranco Beach, from the cliff formation etc

Is there a separate pic?