Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #27

[SuperdadV8]

Would we know though of the evidence if CB were charged?! Or would we need to wait for the trial?

Yes, it will be released only in an official trial.

 

[C.greek]

Fall Maddie: Wird Christian B. doch noch entlastet?

Here it goes a bit further, saying that HCW told them that he even gave an interview to MWT and he has no knowledge of the origin of this alleged evidence.

 

[C.greek]

DDP

 

[C.greek]

Yes, but speculative. I mentioned a few times before, that i personally think, that all the darkweb paedo-ring busts do have an origin and CB could be linked to all of it.

It started in 2016 with operation "Elysium". In 2017 MN gave the passwords to his hard drive after a silence, that lasted about six years. The question is why IMO.

He has been linked to the MM case more than once. He is said to have been at the algarve in the past. Did he tried to bring himself out of the focus of other missing children cases by revealing the content?

Did the content gave fresh leads to other cases?

I personally think, that could be a possibility. But as i said, it's just an assumption.

That's a good guess!
Could it also be that they have identified and spoken to his chat companion?

Is the box factory search in 2016 related to the operation 'Elysium'?

 

[Lilly b]

Have you seen this Lilly ? Resort worker 'saw German child killer' around time Madeleine McCann vanished

Yes,. It's the image of that photo fit I do believe he has been asked about mm but denied ,. It's spooky really

 

[Lilly b]

That's a good guess!
Could it also be that they have identified and spoken to his chat companion?

Is the box factory search in 2016 related to the operation 'Elysium'?

The other person is, I'm sure, apparently a German paedo too,. I've googled the nickname and it brings a name up,. I ve mentioned it before. My point being they know who he is, when I have more time, I will get some info

 

[SuperdadV8]

That's a good guess!
Could it also be that they have identified and spoken to his chat companion?

Is the box factory search in 2016 related to the operation 'Elysium'?

AFAIK, the box factory investigation took place because of missing Inga G.

But a few circumstances could be interesting.

Inga went missing in may 2015. So the investigation of the box factory took place in february 2016. That's eight months later. It was a huge operation. Until 2016, CB's criminal record included child abuse from the 90's as a teenager and from 2013 in Braunschweig. Does just that justify a search warrant to dig up the whole area at Neuwegersleben?

I'm not sure, but it's possible of course!

 

[SuperdadV8]

AFAIK, the box factory investigation took place because of missing Inga G.

But a few circumstances could be interesting.

Inga went missing in may 2015. So the investigation of the box factory took place in february 2016. That's eight months later. It was a huge operation. Until 2016, CB's criminal record included child abuse from the 90's as a teenager and from 2013 in Braunschweig. Does just that justify a search warrant to dig up the whole area at Neuwegersleben?

I'm not sure, but it's possible of course!

So, the raid was based on a childporn verdict, so it had probably nothing to do with Inga!!!

Großeinsatz in der Börde:Kinderporno-Razzia auf vermülltem Fabrikgelände

So probably we're back at the darkweb investigations around 2015/2016...

And just imagine, to find a buried dog probably needs ground penetrating radar. And according to the known pics of the area, concrete has been cut out and other stuff.

Just because of a childporn verdict? Is that usual? I did always doubt that explanation in the allotment-raid as well.

There should me more clues. I think some other paedo accused CB of some things in the past.

And CB came into verdict according to MM one year after all of this! Coincidence? Helge B.? Bar confession?

I doubt that, these are just cumulative parts of the jigsaw IMO.

 

[Dlk79]

Yes, but speculative. I mentioned a few times before, that i personally think, that all the darkweb paedo-ring busts do have an origin and CB could be linked to all of it.

It started in 2016 with operation "Elysium". In 2017 MN gave the passwords to his hard drive after a silence, that lasted about six years. The question is why IMO.

He has been linked to the MM case more than once. He is said to have been at the algarve in the past. Did he tried to bring himself out of the focus of other missing children cases by revealing the content?

Did the content gave fresh leads to other cases?

I personally think, that could be a possibility. But as i said, it's just an assumption.

It was also claimed MN confessed to another "inmate" that he killed J Coulom and revealed something about MM that could only have come from the guilty party (or someone with knowledge from the guilty party presumably). Incidentally, this prison "confession" appears to have happened around the same time as CB claims BKA sent an undercover op into his prison to get info out of him...

New Break in Maddie McCann Case Centers on Killer Pedophile

They mention a second suspect in the article who could well be CB and state he was seen with Ney. Thought I doubt CB appears in grainy footage of the Netflix doc as claimed but given this story came out while SY, PJ and BKA were all secretly investigating him, that could be a fabrication to hide that this OC worker ID'd him after the police approached her. But it's interesting that she says she caught the man stealing from the OC... one of the 3 OC burglaries that occurred in the weeks before MM perhaps where it was claimed the window was used...

Ney was also active on paedo forums for many years under the name GerdX, from at least 2002 to 2012. Even if the above article is nothing to do with CB, I think it's entirely plausible that he and CB were acquainted on the darkweb. Very similar MOs too, other than their gender preference obviously.

Like you, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the HB "confession" is a bit of a smokescreen and it isn't the real evidence that led BKA to be convinced of CB's guilt.

 

[SuperdadV8]

It was also claimed MN confessed to another "inmate" that he killed J Coulom and revealed something about MM that could only have come from the guilty party (or someone with knowledge from the guilty party presumably). Incidentally, this prison "confession" appears to have happened around the same time as CB claims BKA sent an undercover op into his prison to get info out of him...

New Break in Maddie McCann Case Centers on Killer Pedophile

They mention a second suspect in the article who could well be CB and state he was seen with Ney. Thought I doubt CB appears in grainy footage of the Netflix as claimed but given this story came out while SY, PJ and BKA were all secretly investigating him, that could be a fabrication to hide that this OC worker ID'd him after the police approached her. But it's interesting that she says she caught the man stealing from the OC... one of the 3 OC burglaries that occurred in the weeks before MM perhaps where it was claimed the window was used...

Ney was also active on paedo forums for many years under the name GerdX, from at least 2002 to 2012. Even if the above article is nothing to do with CB, I think it's entirely plausible that he and CB were acquainted on the darkweb. Very similar MOs too, other than their gender preference obviously.

Like you, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the HB "confession" is a bit of a smokescreen and it isn't the real evidence that led BKA to be convinced of CB's guilt.

Right! By the way, MN has not just been active as "GerdX" but also as "Timon".

It's so obvious, that CB probably didn't act alone!

1. The huge operation at Neuwegersleben in 2016.

2. The BKA appeal who states expressis verbis, that there are clues of other people knowing about the whereabout of MM's body.

3. HCW stating, CB can talk to them 24/7, if he wants to talk about something.

4. JS and FF suddenly coming out of nowhere.

5. FF's holy water statement and other statements to journalists, that he would like the people to spend just one thought on the possibility that CB didn't kill MM.

6. The british link above, that assumed a german paedophile engaged into a peado-ring.

7. Possible connections to the german peado from Paraguay.

And so on....

IMO MM wasn't a one man job! I assume, they take their time to bust more people involved. CB can't run away that soon.

 

[tedtink]

It was also claimed MN confessed to another "inmate" that he killed J Coulom and revealed something about MM that could only have come from the guilty party (or someone with knowledge from the guilty party presumably). Incidentally, this prison "confession" appears to have happened around the same time as CB claims BKA sent an undercover op into his prison to get info out of him...

New Break in Maddie McCann Case Centers on Killer Pedophile

They mention a second suspect in the article who could well be CB and state he was seen with Ney. Thought I doubt CB appears in grainy footage of the Netflix as claimed but given this story came out while SY, PJ and BKA were all secretly investigating him, that could be a fabrication to hide that this OC worker ID'd him after the police approached her. But it's interesting that she says she caught the man stealing from the OC... one of the 3 OC burglaries that occurred in the weeks before MM perhaps where it was claimed the window was used...

Ney was also active on paedo forums for many years under the name GerdX, from at least 2002 to 2012. Even if the above article is nothing to do with CB, I think it's entirely plausible that he and CB were acquainted on the darkweb. Very similar MOs too, other than their gender preference obviously.

Like you, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the HB "confession" is a bit of a smokescreen and it isn't the real evidence that led BKA to be convinced of CB's guilt.

Latest on Ney -

Extradited to France last year, charged, now back in Celle.
We started a thread for Ney a while ago if you need more info.


Der Kindermörder wurde in Frankreich vernommen: Der "Maskenmann" ist wieder zurück in Deutschland

 

[SuperdadV8]

Latest on Ney -

Extradited to France last year, charged, now back in Celle.
We started a thread for Ney a while ago if you need more info.


Der Kindermörder wurde in Frankreich vernommen: Der "Maskenmann" ist wieder zurück in Deutschland

JVA Celle is located in lower-saxony as well....

We'll see! There is more to be revealed in the future IMO.

To me it doesn't look like, if the prosecutors from Braunschweig spend any thought on a termination of the ongoing investigation.

By the way, there is still a verdict of a spaniard linked to a videotaped murder of a girl, including alleged russians, that is actually in prison as a result of another german peado-ring investigation. The spaniard collaborated with german people and paid lots of money, to satisfy his urges.

This case is from about 2016/2017 as well....

 

[tedtink]

FYI,

Jonathan case. Before the Nantes judge, Martin Ney denied the facts, he went back to Germany
Indicted last January for the kidnapping and murder of Jonathan Coulom, in 2004, in Saint-Brevin-les-Pins, a 50-year-old German educator sentenced to life imprisonment across the Rhine had been "on loan To the French judge for eight months. He is leaving in a few days.
Before September 22, Martin Ney, this former German educator indicted last January in Nantes for the kidnapping and murder of Jonathan Coulom , in 2004, in Saint-Brevin-les-Pins, will have returned to his cell in Germany. The eight-month loan granted by the German authorities to Nantes judge Stéphane Lorentz is in fact expiring.

According to our information, the suspect, questioned at length and four times since his arrival in France, has denied any involvement in the facts with which he is today accused. He assured in particular that he never came to France or at the material time, or on any other day.

The suspect's denials

This 50-year-old man, sentenced to life imprisonment in his country after the murders of three children between 1992 and 2001 and a series of sexual assaults, would have confided in a fellow inmate in 2017. The latter assured him that Martin Ney to him had explained, on several occasions , having abused a boy and having killed him , in France. In front of the Nantes magistrate, the suspect disputed these statements, as revealed by our colleagues from the Parisian : I can tell you that what he said absolutely does not correspond to the truth […] I do not understand why Mr. "T would like to take revenge on me in this way ," he told the magistrate.

An advanced alibi
The suspect also presented an alibi - which remains to be verified - and recalled that a bank withdrawal was recorded on his account on April 6, 2004, in Hamburg, the day of Jonathan's kidnapping in the holiday center in Saint -Brevin-les-Pins. The judge will try to find out if he did this well or if he was able to lend his credit card. A letter rogatory has also been launched across the Rhine to answer this question.


The departure of Martin Ney does not end the training. Far from it. The investigations will indeed continue. In the meantime, Me Caty Richard, the lawyer for the victim's grandmother, remains deeply convinced of her responsibility in the kidnapping and murder. She wishes to salute the remarkable work done by the judge. Contacted, the suspect's lawyers did not wish to speak.

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[SuperdadV8]

Although not related to the MM case, i really would like to know, who is MN's local solicitor at the moment.

 

[tedtink]

Although not related to the MM case, i really would like to know, who is MN's local solicitor at the moment.

Haha I was just thinking the same

 

[SuperdadV8]

As a clairvoyant, i see a major clean up of some posts in here in the near future, due to reports of some members.

 

[Lilly b]

JVA Celle is located in lower-saxony as well....

We'll see! There is more to be revealed in the future IMO.

To me it doesn't look like, if the prosecutors from Braunschweig spend any thought on a termination of the ongoing investigation.

By the way, there is still a verdict of a spaniard linked to a videotaped murder of a girl, including alleged russians, that is actually in prison as a result of another german peado-ring investigation. The spaniard collaborated with german people and paid lots of money, to satisfy his urges.

This case is from about 2016/2017 as well....

Who is this person ?

 

[Lilly b]

So, the raid was based on a childporn verdict, so it had probably nothing to do with Inga!!!

Großeinsatz in der Börde:Kinderporno-Razzia auf vermülltem Fabrikgelände

So probably we're back at the darkweb investigations around 2015/2016...

And just imagine, to find a buried dog probably needs ground penetrating radar. And according to the known pics of the area, concrete has been cut out and other stuff.

Just because of a childporn verdict? Is that usual? I did always doubt that explanation in the allotment-raid as well.

There should me more clues. I think some other paedo accused CB of some things in the past.

And CB came into verdict according to MM one year after all of this! Coincidence? Helge B.? Bar confession?

I doubt that, these are just cumulative parts of the jigsaw IMO.

And that mentions mobile phone

 

[SuperdadV8]

Who is this person ?

Staufen-Prozess: Angeklagter Spanier unter Mordverdacht

 

[Lilly b]

Staufen-Prozess: Angeklagter Spanier unter Mordverdacht

Not a nice thing to read