Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #27

[Anxala]

Wolters contradicts alibi speculations

( I cannot copy the whole text)

The "Bild" newspaper reports that B. is said to have been exonerated by a woman. According to the newspaper, she had spent time with the main suspect "almost every evening" around the time of the crime. However, she could not say for sure whether they had also met on the evening of the crime.

So is there now a spectacular turn of events in the Maddie case? Is Christian B. not the main suspect after all? The responsible public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig strongly contradicts the speculations.

They have "no knowledge of an alibi", public prosecutor Christian Wolters told "RTL". "Neither the accused nor his defence lawyer has commented on the matter to us," Wolters said. The media reports apparently consisted primarily of conjecture, the prosecutor said.
Maddie McCann: Hat Christian B. ein Alibi? Staatsanwaltschaft widerspricht

I would ask though why HCW is responding to tabloid speculation about a not yet broadcast doc and expressing puzzlement - if the above "direct quotes" are valid ones - that CB and FF have failed to engage with him and his team?

As if (a) CB is in a position to respond and (b) as if FF, CB's lawyer, would feel obliged to respond? To HCW? I mean, what?

I just don't get HCW's strategy. It reeks of, in the absence of real evidence, him trying to always stay one step ahead of the doubters.

 

[SuperdadV8]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mi...s-reject-claims-madeleine-mccann-25905370.amp

Another article, referring to HCW.

But i doubt as well, that HCW really made a comment on this topic.

 

[C.greek]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mi...s-reject-claims-madeleine-mccann-25905370.amp

Another article, referring to HCW.

But i doubt as well, that HCW really made a comment on this topic.

this is rather strange from the mirror article:
"Last year a friend of [CB] gave him a possible alibi but later told a German paper she could not recall if she was [with] him the night Madeleine vanished."

did we miss this somehow? when did a friend of CB tell a German paper she could not recall the event (if she was with CB that night)?

 

[SuperdadV8]

this is rather strange from the mirror article:
"Last year a friend of [CB] gave him a possible alibi but later told a German paper she could not recall if she was [with] him the night Madeleine vanished."

did we miss this somehow? when did a friend of CB tell a German paper she could not recall the event?

I was following the case from day one and i never read an article from a german newspaper, including that info.

I do not understand these reports, i must admit!

 

[Dlk79]

this is rather strange from the mirror article:
"Last year a friend of [CB] gave him a possible alibi but later told a German paper she could not recall if she was [with] him the night Madeleine vanished."

did we miss this somehow? when did a friend of CB tell a German paper she could not recall the event?

I think what they might mean is "last year" is when the MWT doc was filmed. And the bit about "later told a German paper she could not recall...." is referring to the Bild article that came out yesterday.

That could well be what this whole thing is about. MWT making out she is "quite sure" CB was with her but the BKA and the Press have a different impression of her account.

Also think HCW playing some cheeky mind games again with his little taunt to CB and FF. You can't argue with what he's saying though. If CB and FF are so concerned about having his name dragged through the mud for the last 18 months then why wouldn't they just provide the alibi if they had one? Ball is in your court Herr Fulscher...

 

[SuperdadV8]

We still do not know for sure, if MWT is really involved in the actual reports!

I would assume some kind of "whistleblower" from channel 5 who may have watched some footage. A part of an interview or something and maybe sold this "bombshell" to the tabloids.

It could explain MWT's silence. Before he makes a statement, maybe he communicates with the channel at first?!

 

[Lilly b]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mi...s-reject-claims-madeleine-mccann-25905370.amp

Another article, referring to HCW.

But i doubt as well, that HCW really made a comment on this topic.

As we said, just clickbait

 

[Lilly b]

I think what they might mean is "last year" is when the MWT doc was filmed. And the bit about "later told a German paper she could not recall...." is referring to the Bild article that came out yesterday.

That could well be what this whole thing is about. MWT making out she is "quite sure" CB was with her but the BKA and the Press have a different impression of her account.

Also think HCW playing some cheeky mind games again with his little taunt to CB and FF. You can't argue with what he's saying though. If CB and FF are so concerned about having his name dragged through the mud for the last 18 months then why wouldn't they just provide the alibi if they had one? Ball is in your court Herr Fulscher...

Good thinking

 

[mrjitty]

They have "no knowledge of an alibi", public prosecutor Christian Wolters told "RTL". "Neither the accused nor his defence lawyer has commented on the matter to us," Wolters said. The media reports apparently consisted primarily of conjecture, the prosecutor said.

RSBM

This is where it is all getting very stupid.

Why would FF have presented an alibi to the prosecutor when HCW has not yet proceeded with an official interview and thus made relevant disclosure of the evidence

 

[C.greek]

RSBM

This is where it is all getting very stupid.

Why would FF have presented an alibi to the prosecutor when HCW has not yet proceeded with an official interview and thus made relevant disclosure of the evidence

maybe he has already been interviewed and we don't know about it? maybe he did not provide an alibi in 2013? or maybe the witnesses supposedly providing him an alibi have already been interrogated by BKA? Who knows if even the quotes are actually HCW's?

 

[mrjitty]

I would ask though why HCW is responding to tabloid speculation about a not yet broadcast doc and expressing puzzlement - if the above "direct quotes" are valid ones - that CB and FF have failed to engage with him and his team?

As if (a) CB is in a position to respond and (b) as if FF, CB's lawyer, would feel obliged to respond? To HCW? I mean, what?

I just don't get HCW's strategy. It reeks of, in the absence of real evidence, him trying to always stay one step ahead of the doubters.

Exactly - the real story is the witness evidence is now being argued in the tabloids.

I mean it's a free country and all, so MWT can do that, but one feels HCW has lost control of the media narrative here. It's going to get embarrassing if he can't back up his claims.

 

[mrjitty]

maybe he has already been interviewed and we don't know about it? maybe he did not provide an alibi in 2013? or maybe the witnesses supposedly providing him an alibi have already been interrogated by BKA? Who knows if even the quotes are actually HCW's?

This is why we usually have court cases instead of putting all the witness "evidence" in the tabloids

 

[SuperdadV8]

We do not have any clue, about the evidence, the german prosecutors got in their files....

 

[mrjitty]

If CB and FF are so concerned about having his name dragged through the mud for the last 18 months then why wouldn't they just provide the alibi if they had one? Ball is in your court Herr Fulscher...

RSBM

Fulscher knows it would be idiotic for CB to put defence his defence out there without first getting disclosure from HCW

It is of course possible, that Fulscher has helped MWT acquire this "alibi" as a way of getting it in the media, without coming from his client.

 

[mrjitty]

We do not have any clue, about the evidence, the german prosecutors got in their files....

Which is why this latest fiasco is pointless, except for MWT

 

[mrjitty]

BILD seems to have it's own sourcing. I wonder if its "journalist" took part in the MWT documentary

 

[C.greek]

BILD seems to have it's own sourcing. I wonder if its "journalist" took part in the MWT documentary

Where do you base that? By the differing accounts? Or by the more 'detailed'account in BILD?

 

[katydid23]

RSBM
Fulscher knows it would be idiotic for CB to put defence his defence out there without first getting disclosure from HCW
It is of course possible, that Fulscher has helped MWT acquire this "alibi" as a way of getting it in the media, without coming from his client.

As to the bolded^^ above===BINGO!

 

[Dlk79]

One of the claims quoted in the original articles stated that CB's alibi "stacks up". Now they could just mean that in the generic sense of "CB's claim that he didn't do it" stacks up. But in a legal sense, the phrase "stacks up" usually means it corroborates something specific (albeit without proving it conclusively).

I just wonder if MWT has somehow got hold of where CB claims to have been on the 3rd May. Whether it's from when CB was questioned in 2013 or from what he told friends and associates (some of whom must surely have asked about him about it at some time or other) or even from FF/CB. And so, perhaps all MWT is actually saying is that CB's claim that he was staying with this woman on the 3rd "stacks up" in the sense that she confirms he was staying there "around that time", she doesn't say he definitely wasn't with her on the 3rd and he didn't display any signs (to her) that indicated involvement on his part.

 

[C.greek]

What I am puzzled with right now is this: from my understanding of reading on the german legal system - which coincidentally is where the greek legal system was based on - i was under the impression that the prosecutors' job is to find evidence both for innocence and guilt.

If this is correct, one would have imagined after 3 years of having CB under the spotlight, the BKA would have already checked everything they could possibly have had to find CB's alibi before going in front of a judge and ask permission for the public appeal.

Let's just say in 2020 they did not know of the various GFs of CB. Surely after the public appeal they were acquainted with them and interrogated them. Still just a couple of months ago HCW said they are 100% certain CB killed MM.

So how come a journalist come up now with an 'alibi' given by a known witness?

What am I missing in my thinking?