Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #28

[SuperdadV8]

I remember he said it was in april2007 he came to help N with the pool, at least he told that in the danish documentary and that doesn’t fit with having the Winnebago already in April?

IMO we still don't know, when the "winnebago - era" started for sure.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Is there any way we can see that VOX documentary?

Sorry Chiatos, i don't know! It's an RTL issue...

 

[Hygge]

IMO we still don't know, when the "winnebago - era" started for sure.

I found it strange that DF said it was April but maybe he got it wrong. I am still confused with that car why CB wo7ld tell a strange person to be able to transport children?

 

[SuperdadV8]

I found it strange that DF said it was April but maybe he got it wrong. I am still confused with that car why CB wo7ld tell a strange person to be able to transport children?

Some people are keen on doing things, they need to talk about. To share their experience.

They are keen on getting "applause"!

 

[C.greek]

I found it strange that DF said it was April but maybe he got it wrong. I am still confused with that car why CB wo7ld tell a strange person to be able to transport children?

It could be that he was referring to the troubled kids from Germany NF hosted? Imo

 

[C.greek]

I find it really disconcerting that JC is being used as a reliable source of info on here.

We have been quoting Amaral's book(s) as well. Why did you not complain then? What is it that makes you think JC is not reliable or that he hasn't done his research? Just because of his egomania (as I think you have said before) and need for self-promotion? These are traits that many respected researchers, journalists and scientists have. Doesn't make them less important or credible. Jmo

ETA i am not saying JC is important but I don't see a reason to doubt his credibility

 

[C.greek]

The panikspatz issue is interesting and we talked about it before in here. Some members found social media profiles from the area of Brandenburg.
According to adjusted protocol from the latest documentary, panikspatz told haraldmoney, to live in southern germany in "Südbaden". This is an area around the german town "Freiburg im Breisgau", that has been mentioned in other paedo ring cases in the past.

So i assume, the chat is genuine and cruicial and may have links to other real life paedos and footage from the darkweb.

So the unusal "mm" after talking about torturing a small one for days keeps interesting to me!

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Please @SuperdadV8 can you screenshot more of the chat? I see new details all the time!! Here in the last two lines for example after CB says he is sorry to not be able to meet him soon, the other says 'perhaps in the meantime you will have V [a verb is missing from the screenshot] a small ..'. And then CB's reply is a bit enigmatic... something like 'but you don't have any, sadly'. Does that refer to a small film? Like "filmchen" as we have seen previously in the chat - but then they use the diminutive -chen... no, this must refer to the "etwas kleine" (something small, i.e. a child)

We also see a lot of proper 'hm' use here... but then how would Germans do the 'mmm, nice'?


Sorry for being pedantic... but sometimes the devil hides in details

 

[Dlk79]

We have been quoting Amaral's book(s) as well. Why did you not complain then? What is it that makes you think JC is not reliable or that he hasn't done his research? Just because of his egomania (as I think you have said before) and need for self-promotion? These are traits that many respected researchers, journalists and scientists have. Doesn't make them less important or credible. Jmo

ETA i am not saying JC is important but I don't see a reason to doubt his credibility

Well said. People are quoting random articles here all the time, from nobodies in the Press, and yet no criticism of these randoms reporters. Yet some people seem to have a real beef with JC despite the groundwork he has put in. Funnily these same people seem to have no qualms with GA.... I wonder why.... I don't really, just find it amusing how they feign outrage over JC and can't see the irony.

 

[C.greek]

We have been quoting Amaral's book(s) as well. Why did you not complain then? What is it that makes you think JC is not reliable or that he hasn't done his research? Just because of his egomania (as I think you have said before) and need for self-promotion? These are traits that many respected researchers, journalists and scientists have. Doesn't make them less important or credible. Jmo

ETA i am not saying JC is important but I don't see a reason to doubt his credibility

And just to add to the above, even though I don't recall whose argument it was that JC spent only a couple of hours interviewing HCW like that was minimal and unimportant...if you have ever worked in the media you would know that interviews usually last 30 min tops and from that half hour the reporter writes a whole piece... nobody has ample time and especially the reporter and in this case a public prosecutor.. only for a filmed tv interview would you need hours and hours of repeating questions and answers to get to a final product of 15 minutes... so a couple of hours is a lot in the media world. Jmo from my prof experience both sides of the fence

 

[Dlk79]

And just to add to the above, even though I don't recall whose argument it was that JC spent only a couple of hours interviewing HCW like that was minimal and unimportant...if you have ever worked in the media you would know that interviews usually last 30 min tops and from that half hour the reporter writes a whole piece... nobody has ample time and especially the reporter and in this case a public prosecutor.. only for a filmed tv interview would you need hours and hours of repeating questions and answers to get to a final product of 15 minutes... so a couple of hours is a lot in the media world. Jmo from my prof experience both sides of the fence

I'll be honest, I had little interest in reading JC's book originally, I thought it was just gonna be another hack job. But I thank Vermisstekindersuche for the recommendation. Cheers man!

It is actually a very well researched book to be fair. He takes some liberty in his opinion at times (what journo doesn't?) but you can't say he hasn't worked hard and done some groundwork. And I think it's clear which parts are factual and which are just his opinion, at least I think so.

That's something that is lacking in Amaral's book, which I have also took the liberty to read. The only way you can tell which bits are factual there are the things he admits to, but then does his best to undermine and disprove...but to no great avail. IMO the most important revelation in GA's book is that CB was in possession of writings of horrific crimes that were apparently written in an "autobiographical" nature... Obviously GA tries to make out these may just be possibly "fantasy" writings. (As if he would propose anything else). But maybe, just maybe these accounts can be proven to be true via other evidence. And if there is an account of MM amongst his transcripts too........

 

[Loobyloo]

Please @SuperdadV8 can you screenshot more of the chat? I see new details all the time!! Here in the last two lines for example after CB says he is sorry to not be able to meet him soon, the other says 'perhaps in the meantime you will have V [a verb is missing from the screenshot] a small ..'. And then CB's reply is a bit enigmatic... something like 'but you don't have any, sadly'. Does that refer to a small film? Like "filmchen" as we have seen previously in the chat - but then they use the diminutive -chen... no, this must refer to the "etwas kleine" (something small, i.e. a child)

We also see a lot of proper 'hm' use here... but then how would Germans do the 'mmm, nice'?


Sorry for being pedantic... but sometimes the devil hides in details

I'd been sceptical about equating mm with MM previously (having only looked at transcripts) but in this excerpt it's clear that neither participant uses upper case letters at all, even for place names. That does increase the likelihood of mm representing MM in the other chat.

 

[Chiatos]

Thanks for posting, Super.
Dieter looks so young doesn't he?

In this fragment he mentions grass being transported to Russia, but doesn't mention the word 'kids'.
However, knowing that DF had mentioned hiding kids in CB's van in a previous interview, we can't rule out CB also having transported (a) kid(s) to Russia.

 

[C.greek]

Is it remotely possible that FF is paid through online funding campaigns of the anti-McC? Most of them are based in the UK and it just crossed my mind looking at all the hatred...

 

[Trivento]

Is it remotely possible that FF is paid through online funding campaigns of the anti-McC? Most of them are based in the UK and it just crossed my mind looking at all the hatred...

That’s an interesting thought , can also think of at least three North Americans whom one could speculate might entertain such assistance.
In the JC book it is mentioned HCW knows of some “ illuminating “ information regarding funding for FF , but asked JC not to specify it.

 

[SuperdadV8]

I would bet that CB knew that southern germany staufen guy in 2013

Thanks for posting, Super.
Dieter looks so young doesn't he?

In this fragment he mentions grass being transported to Russia, but doesn't mention the word 'kids'.
However, knowing that DF had mentioned hiding kids in CB's van in a previous interview, we can't rule out CB also having transported (a) kid(s) to Russia.

Shortly after i stopped the screening he repeated to talk about the possibility to hide 50 kg of grass or even children! But we know that for a long time. But the statement referring to russia is new and way more interesting imo.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Please @SuperdadV8 can you screenshot more of the chat? I see new details all the time!! Here in the last two lines for example after CB says he is sorry to not be able to meet him soon, the other says 'perhaps in the meantime you will have V [a verb is missing from the screenshot] a small ..'. And then CB's reply is a bit enigmatic... something like 'but you don't have any, sadly'. Does that refer to a small film? Like "filmchen" as we have seen previously in the chat - but then they use the diminutive -chen... no, this must refer to the "etwas kleine" (something small, i.e. a child)

We also see a lot of proper 'hm' use here... but then how would Germans do the 'mmm, nice'?


Sorry for being pedantic... but sometimes the devil hides in details

"Filmchen" just means the same as "movie".

 

[Lilly b]

Thanks for posting, Super.
Dieter looks so young doesn't he?

In this fragment he mentions grass being transported to Russia, but doesn't mention the word 'kids'.
However, knowing that DF had mentioned hiding kids in CB's van in a previous interview, we can't rule out CB also having transported (a) kid(s) to Russia.[/QUOTEi

I think it sort of confirms his links to russian people in Portugal,. Something we know of but not to what extent

 

[C.greek]

"Filmchen" just means the same as "movie".

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Thanks, well not exactly grammatically speaking, it is the diminutive of Film, meaning small video/film. But in the screenshot you sent me it is clear they are talking about catching a small child.

But it appears we have excerpts taken from within the chat... from these we cannot make clear whether CB did mention he has already done that

 

[SuperdadV8]

Thanks, well not exactly grammatically speaking, it is the diminutive of Film, meaning small video/film. But in the screenshot you sent me it is clear they are talking about catching a small child.

Right. They are talking about CB catching a small female child. "Eine Kleine" means a female. Otherwise there would have been written "Einen Kleinen", what stands for a boy in german.

 

[C.greek]

Right. They are talking about CB catching a small female child. "Eine Kleine" means a female. Otherwise there would have been written "Einen Kleinen", what stands for a boy in german.

What if they referred to a child in general?

ETA But now that makes me think whether before in the chat CB mentioned he has already done it. . Could that explain his phrase sadly you don't have any? Or could it be understood as sadly you haven't done it yet?