Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #28

[Pixie Child]

Regarding the CP material and autobiographical accounts found in the box factory raid, I'm wondering if the intention wasn't to bury them, but rather to destroy them.

In GA's book, he says that the Lidl carrier bag (in which the pen drives were found) was filled with "firewood".

And in JC's book, he says the following -

Detectives also stumbled across the burial site of one of Brueckner’s dogs ... and under it, in a Lidl carrier bag, an alarming hoard of child sex abuse images and videos. The stash had been found entirely by accident when a policeman kicked over the ashes of an apparent bonfire and spotted a bone from a dog.

So if you built a bonfire directly on top of a dog that burnt enough to expose bone, which in turn was on top of a bag filled with firewood, surely the expectation is that the contents of the bag were meant to burn too? Piecing together to the two accounts, it seems to me now that CB may have piled this incriminating evidence into some kind of pit and set fire to it with the intention of destroying it for good. Except it would appear the fire burned out before it reached the lower levels. That's assuming of course that GA's and JC's accounts about the firewood and bonfire are true. Would also be interested to know who exactly 'euthanized' CB's dog (as was recently reported) and when exactly this was.

If that is what happened, the question then is what prompted CB to take that action, at that particular time? It feels possibly like something done in a rush (and poorly) in response to an imminent threat he perceived from the authorities closing in.

Is the date of when this dog died known?

This article suggests that the factory was ‘searched as part of a broader investigation into child ’. He may have become aware of arrests related to that investigation. Surprising really that he wasn’t prosecuted in any of the BKA/ Europol operations shutting down darkweb sites. Do USB drives found buried beneath a dead dog hold the clue to what may have happened to Madeleine McCann?

 

[Dlk79]

Was the firewood IN the lidl bag or on top of it? But if that were the carrier that Inga had I believe they would have put two and two together. Jmo

Eta just saw your post above that according to GA the lidl bad was filled with firewood

Well you would have hoped so and that the bag was checked for prints. It's possible nobody at the camp was aware Inga was using a carrier bag though so 'firewood' on its own would be unlikely to raise flags. This is all just hypothetical of course, I've no idea if she actually had any bag.

The only source I know of for there being firewood in the bag is from GA's book -

30 cm (1 ft) deep the police found the dead body of a Labrador and underneath it a LIDL supermarket bag containing firewood.

Simillary, the only source for there being autobiographical writings on the pen drives though is also in GA's book. IMO this is a detail that is probably widely known among journalists but something that is on their "no mention" list. Sensitive evidence that the BKA would rather wasn't publicly revealed.

This article suggests that the factory was ‘searched as part of a broader investigation into child ’. He may have become aware of arrests related to that investigation. Surprising really that he wasn’t prosecuted in any of the BKA/ Europol operations shutting down darkweb sites. Do USB drives found buried beneath a dead dog hold the clue to what may have happened to Madeleine McCann?

Well there's a third different reason that has been given for the raid. Smoke and mirrors....

 

[tedtink]

The real reason may be something else altogether but I find it hard to believe 100 officers would descend on there for a week-long search due to a 'smell'.

Agree that the reason is 'something else altogether........

"As Chief Prosecutor in the case Hans Christian Wolters told me the following day: “If you want to sexually abuse kids, that is the right place, as nobody would see or hear anything. There are no neighbours!”

EXCLUSIVE: The run down East German box factory where ‘evil’ Maddie McCann suspect Christian B kept 20,000 sick videos and films - Olive Press News Spain

I think they investigated a connection to Inga after investigating CB for MM or something else (JMO)

"When the officials searched the property in Saxony-Anhalt in 2016, according to the "Magdeburger Volksstimme" they also compared the traces found with those in the Inga case. However, these did not lead to useful information at the time......."

Hängen Fälle Maddie und Inga zusammen?

Neuwegersleben......
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[C.greek]

This article suggests that the factory was ‘searched as part of a broader investigation into child ’. He may have become aware of arrests related to that investigation. Surprising really that he wasn’t prosecuted in any of the BKA/ Europol operations shutting down darkweb sites. Do USB drives found buried beneath a dead dog hold the clue to what may have happened to Madeleine McCann?

I don't know how fast DW prosecutions go... and I would imagine quite slowly to gain intelligence into all these networks operating worldwide...
but I have seen no evidence apart from mention in some articles that he was using the DW. we know of his skype and facebook accounts which were under his pseudonym and were used for CP and that he used AB's house to log in to the internet (from JC's book) . the DW is only mentioned in some accounts by his 'friends', like 'he was always in the DW'. But as somebody said here before, wouldn't he be kicked out of the DW chats if he was using other platforms to exchange CP? I have no idea how it works and of course they might have intercepted his accounts and seen he was frequenting the DW- it's just that I have not seen anything yet in MSM that shows he was not only using his skype and facebook for CP, which unless there is a tip off appears more difficult to crack. Jmo

 

[Loobyloo]

We might need to make a thread with the timeline of the convictions and whereabouts of CB as there is with the main people mentioned in this thread. Just a thought

This was posted almost a year ago by @Tekno - I've kept it bookmarked for reference as it provides a very detailed account of all the key information as of Feb 2021:
Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #23

ETA: Having just re-read it, I remember it's a translation of a 2020 article in Der Spiegel, so probably more useful for newcomers to the case.

 

[tedtink]

This was posted almost a year ago by @Tekno - I've kept it bookmarked for reference as it provides a very detailed account of all the key information as of Feb 2021:
Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #23

ETA: Having just re-read it, I remember it's a translation of a 2020 article in Der Spiegel, so probably more useful for newcomers to the case.

Thanks Loobyloo.

So if that timeline is correct that narrows Charlies death down to between June 2013- Jan 2016.

I did wonder whether the box factory raid was the result of the images they found of AK's daughter on the digital camera which may have contained the other images of CB (tow bar etc) and BKA wanted to find the location where the pics were taken?
According to that article AP met CB in June 2013, the kiosk was searched in the summer of 2014. (After NM found CP in 2014)
Some other reports say that the pics were taken in a 'public park', but in the article above it says 'meadow' and and I do wonder if the photo's of AK's daughter were actually taken at the box factory, hence the eventual search there? Especially taking in account what HCW said .........

“If you want to sexually abuse kids, that is the right place, as nobody would see or hear anything. There are no neighbours!”

Was that a hint? Or was it a 'public park'? Given the alleged Messines incident, who knows!

"In the fall of 2017, the Braunschweig Regional Court sentences Christian B. to one year and three months in prison for "sexual abuse of a child" and possession of 391 child photos and 68 videos"

Presumably these images were found in the 2014 search of the kiosk (including the Skype chat) and by then (2016-2017) BKA has the box factory findings that they are analysing.

JMO

 

[Tekno]

The latest:

‘A documentary by the broadcaster Sat.1 provided new details in the Maddie McCann case. Now the suspect, who is currently in prison, has filed a complaint against one of the journalists’.

Maddie McCann: Verdächtiger Entführer klagt gegen TV-Journalistin

 

[Trivento]

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Following recent numberplate discussions , I was reading a bit about the blue Bedford van..according to attached link...seems to be a bit of ambiguity about whether this van was impounded before or after MM disappearance.
Unfortunately it was scrapped.

 

[tedtink]

Regarding the CP material and autobiographical accounts found in the box factory raid, I'm wondering if the intention wasn't to bury them, but rather to destroy them.

In GA's book, he says that the Lidl carrier bag (in which the pen drives were found) was filled with "firewood".

And in JC's book, he says the following -

Detectives also stumbled across the burial site of one of Brueckner’s dogs ... and under it, in a Lidl carrier bag, an alarming hoard of child sex abuse images and videos. The stash had been found entirely by accident when a policeman kicked over the ashes of an apparent bonfire and spotted a bone from a dog.

So if you built a bonfire directly on top of a dog that burnt enough to expose bone, which in turn was on top of a bag filled with firewood, surely the expectation is that the contents of the bag were meant to burn too? Piecing together to the two accounts, it seems to me now that CB may have piled this incriminating evidence into some kind of pit and set fire to it with the intention of destroying it for good. Except it would appear the fire burned out before it reached the lower levels. That's assuming of course that GA's and JC's accounts about the firewood and bonfire are true. Would also be interested to know who exactly 'euthanized' CB's dog (as was recently reported) and when exactly this was.

If that is what happened, the question then is what prompted CB to take that action, at that particular time? It feels possibly like something done in a rush (and poorly) in response to an imminent threat he perceived from the authorities closing in.

Is the date of when this dog died known?

There was certainly a lot going on at that time.
He'd had his other CP confiscated in 2014.
It could be that his CP was so precious to him in an obsessional kind of way and he didn't want LE to take any more, but knowing that he would have to dig up a decaying dog if he ever wanted to retrieve it sounds strange.
JMO

 

[C.greek]

Thanks Loobyloo.

So if that timeline is correct that narrows Charlies death down to between June 2013- Jan 2016.

I did wonder whether the box factory raid was the result of the images they found of AK's daughter on the digital camera which may have contained the other images of CB (tow bar etc) and BKA wanted to find the location where the pics were taken?
According to that article AP met CB in June 2013, the kiosk was searched in the summer of 2014. (After NM found CP in 2014)
Some other reports say that the pics were taken in a 'public park', but in the article above it says 'meadow' and and I do wonder if the photo's of AK's daughter were actually taken at the box factory, hence the eventual search there? Especially taking in account what HCW said .........

“If you want to sexually abuse kids, that is the right place, as nobody would see or hear anything. There are no neighbours!”

Was that a hint? Or was it a 'public park'? Given the alleged Messines incident, who knows!

"In the fall of 2017, the Braunschweig Regional Court sentences Christian B. to one year and three months in prison for "sexual abuse of a child" and possession of 391 child photos and 68 videos"

Presumably these images were found in the 2014 search of the kiosk (including the Skype chat) and by then (2016-2017) BKA has the box factory findings that they are analysing.

JMO

according to JC's book, the abuse of the gf's daughter took place in both his flat and in a public park - five of the photos were taken in a local park on March 2013 with a slide in the background. CB was 'looking after' the daughter one morning that the mother was working. Anja was repeatedly abused by CB and she managed to report him to the police in July 2014. She testified that she believed CB had abused her daughter on at least three occasions but he was convicted only for the one occasion because they had the photos.

With regards to the dogs, it was said by a neighbour of his that he let both dogs starve in the kiosk when he left with a girlfriend for a 6 week-trip to Portugal. We could assume that this was NM, who reportedly was his gf from the summer of 2014 (but according to JC even earlier as early as 2012 when she was only 15 years old). It is also mentioned that CB was for most of 2014 in Portugal, but I find it difficult to think that he wouldn't have taken the dogs with him during 2014?? Maybe Charlie then died after 2014? jmo

ETA: JC says that Charlie, CB's dog, had died in 2014 in CB's Braunschweig apartment (p. 317)

 

[Trivento]

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Following recent numberplate discussions , I was reading a bit about the blue Bedford van..according to attached link...seems to be a bit of ambiguity about whether this van was impounded before or after MM disappearance.
Unfortunately it was scrapped.

For reference..the blue Bedford was reg. AZ4247..as in this article..

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-sick-confession-22222112

The article also raises the doubt of timing of when this van was seized by police.

 

[Dlk79]

I recall that the following Spiegel video was where we first heard about the dog burial. The doc makers talk to his friend Bjorn R and I believe he speaks quite a bit about CB and the dog. Don't know whether it gives any indication of the date the dog died though?

SPIEGEL TV: Exklusiv-Interview mit einem Bekannten von Christian B. und Kriminalfall Andreas Darsow

 

[C.greek]

I am getting more confused now about the timeline... supposedly Anja reported him to the police in July 2014 for abusing her. However, JC (p. 320) writes that the Exilim camera was seized by detectives investigating him for child abuse on the 7th of February 2014. and it goes on to say that CB's ex-gf reported him for filming her 5-yo daughter in June 2013.

 

[Niner]

I'm heading out a Holiday - for 2 weeks!! So I might not be here when the prosecutor charges CB with the sexual assault cases.
So I hope no one minds that I post this. Also, I can shorten it up a bit also! All my notes from way back when...


Sometime in February.
*Will be charged sometime in Feb. – (@ am CET) – Germany/Portugal - Hazel Behan (20) (working on the Algarve, June 15, 2004, Praia de Rocha, Portimao, Portugal) - *Christian Bruekner (27 @time of 1st crime (2004)/45) charged (in Feb) with sexual assault.
Germany/Portugal – 10 year old German girl (on a beach, near Praia da luz, April, 2007).
Germany/Portugal – 4 children (exposed himself in playpark, São Bartolomeu de Messines, June, 2017).
Dec. 18, 2021 Update: Brueckner is currently serving a 7 year sentence for the 2005 rape on a pensioner. Brueckner is also set to be charged with up to 6 separate sex crimes next year. They are: missing Inga Gehricke (5), murdered Carola Titze (16) in Belgium, the sexual assault of a child (10) on Salema beach near Praia da Luz in April of 2007 & the flashing to 4 young kids in a playpark in Messines, Portugal in June of 2017, also on the Algarve are the most likely to be leveled at in February & March. German source: While he is still the main suspect in Madeleine case, these easier cases will be tried first & he will be charged with Madeleine later in the year.
Dec. 23, 2021 Update: Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters will accuse Brueckner of waking the 20 year old in the middle of the night while wearing a mask & holding a knife to her throat. The strongest is hinged around his fingerprints being left in the apartment of the rape victim Hazel - it has emerged. He had picked up one of her kitchen knives to threaten her not to scream. Then proceeded to set up a video camera to record-an ordeal that lasted over an hour. While he had attempted to clean up the scene he left a partial fingerprint on the knife. Wolters is very sure & is set to proceed with the conviction, which pretty certain will be in February. And will be charged with 2 other crimes in February. The first involves the sexual assault of a 10 year old German girl on a beach, near Praia da Luz in April, 2007. In the second one Brueckner was arrested & extradited back to Germany after being caught exposing himself to 4 children in a playpark during a festival in São Bartolomeu de Messines in June, 2017.
*Will be Charged later in year (Maybe April) (@ am CET) – Germany/Portugal – Madeleine Beth McCann (3) (May 3, 2007, disappeared from hotel room while sleeping with her younger twin siblings, while parents ate at restaurant near the Mark Warner Ocean Summer Club in Praia da Luz; not found) - *Christian Brueckner (43/now 45) Suspect (Sept. 17, 2020).
Brueckner info from June 1, 2020 thru Sept. 4, 2020 reference post #148 here:
Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #19
Sept. 17, 2020 Update: The European Court of Justice should have decision back on 9/24/20. 9/24/20 Update: Brueckner has lost his bid to be freed from prison in Germany. Lawyers for the 43-year-old had argued that European Arrest Warrant protocols had been breached, meaning he qualified for release. But this morning that claim was rejected by European Court of Justice judges, who ordered that he remains behind bars. The ruling found the conviction of rape & extortion was justified & Italian authorities who handed Brueckner to Germany had given their consent for him to also be additionally prosecuted for the rape. Brueckner is currently serving a 21-month sentence for drug trafficking in the German city of Kiel. His current sentence is due to end on 7 January 2021. The ECJ ruling now means when the jail term for drug trafficking ends, the seven-year prison time for the rape will begin for raping a 72-year-old American woman in her own home at Praia da Luz in 2005. Europe's top court retroactively cleared his extradition to Germany for a rape charge.
Jan. 11, 2021 Update: German & Portuguese investigators are planning to carry out new interviews of key witnesses in the Algarve who knew paedophile Christian Brueckner, who was announced as the prime suspect last year. Experts described it as “a very important step forward” & raised hopes it could lead to Brueckner being quizzed & even charged. A second top-level summit between German, British & Portuguese detectives is also expected to take place in Lisbon this spring. Prosecutors hope a new clue will give them what they need to directly question Brueckner about the case. “The police have already put some witnesses on standby to sit down for new interviews. A secret summit took place in Lisbon last summer between detectives from Scotland Yard, the Policia Judiciaria & Bundeskriminalamt. They met to “fine-tune” Brueckner’s profile in a bid to discover where Madeleine’s body could be buried. German detectives have also spent time quizzing key witnesses in the Algarve, including Mr. Brueckner’s British ex-girlfriend. German authorities say they are sure Brueckner abducted & murdered her but have declined to say what evidence they have.
Jan. 22, 2021 Update: Prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters told The Sun: ''It has been decided to discontinue the investigation, with the agreement of the court in Braunschweig, as the accused is now serving seven years for rape. "It would not be worth carrying on with the investigation but the counter claims from his lawyer that his client was attacked are still being looked into & no decision has yet been taken.''
March 12, 2021 Update: As the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig explains when asked by regional Heute, four proceedings are currently being investigated against Christian B. In addition to the investigation into the Maddie case, this concerns the rape of a young Irish woman, the sexual abuse of a German tourist girl & a possible sexual abuse in connection with a children's party, on the occasion of which the convicted was arrested in Portugal & then extradited to Germany. "All the acts took place in Portugal," says the first public prosecutor & spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office, Christian Wolters. To what extent the investigations & the proceedings in the Maddie case have progressed, how long they will continue & when an indictment can be expected, Wolters cannot say. "The suspicion against the accused still exists," said Wolters & explains that - apart from practical problems - the cooperation between the Portuguese & British authorities with the Brunswick public prosecutor is going well & is supporting the investigation. "The cooperation with the Portuguese & British authorities is naturally more cumbersome than if we were only investigating within Germany. This is due to the translations required & the relatively formalistic legal assistance procedure, which takes a lot of time," says Wolters.
May 2, 2021 Update: Christian B is suspected of attacking Irish tour representative Hazel Behan in her Portugal apartment in 2004. German cops hope to charge the sex offender “within the next three months.” Hazel, 20 at the time of the attack, contacted British police after she read of a similar sex attack he committed. Christian B is in prison in Germany for the rape of a 71-year-old American woman in 2005.
May 13, 2021 Update: German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said of the breakthrough: “We have gathered new evidence that adds further to the case we are building against our main suspect. “We are still building the case & at some time in the future we shall share the details with the suspect & his lawyer — but now is not the time. “I cannot disclose the type of evidence we have been given, it is not forensic I can tell you that but it is new circumstantial evidence which all adds to the working theory that he is the man responsible.” German police have said they have “concrete evidence” Christian B murdered Madeleine. And he added: “We have found no evidence that suggests he is not guilty of this crime & we have found a lot of evidence that suggests he is guilty but I am forbidden to go into these details.” Investigators are hopeful they can charge Christian B by the end of the summer & last week it was revealed a key witness who tipped off German police is to take part in a reconstruction in Praia da Luz where Madeleine went missing.
May 15, 2021 Update: The Braunschweig public prosecutor's office is now conducting three further proceedings against the 44-year-old German Christian B. The suspect in the missing Madeleine McCann case allegedly raped an Irish hotel worker in Portugal in 2004. Three years later he molested a ten-year-old girl from Germany on the beach. In addition, the Brunswick public prosecutor's office is investigating the sexual abuse of four children on the sidelines of a festival in São Bartolomeu de Messines in 2017.
May 16, 2021: (From The Sun). McCann cops' key new evidence has been revealed to be phone records that may show Christian B’s movements in Portugal.
June 14, 2021 Update: The letter’s writer – believed to be Brueckner – accuses prosecutors of perpetrating an “unbelievable scandal” by starting a “public prejudice campaign” against him. The writer goes on to claim that prosecutors Hans Christian Wolters and Ute Lindemann have brought “shame” to the German legal system & demands their resignations. The letter, dated 8 May, was reportedly accompanied by a hand-drawn cartoon of two people ordering “filet forensics” at a restaurant, perhaps in reference to Mr. Wolters’ comment that there is no forensic evidence to suggest that Madeleine is dead. Brueckner... wrote in the letter: "Charging an accused is one thing. Something completely different - namely, it is an unbelievable scandal - when a public prosecutor starts a public campaign for prejudice before a court case is opened. Freedom of expression is not a basic right so that everyone can say & write what they want. Freedom of expression does not protect the majority. It protects the minority. It does not protect the most logical, most convincing or most popular views, but rather the outsider position. "I call on the Brunswick public prosecutors (Hans Christian) Wolters & (Ute) Lindemann to resign from their offices."
Oct. 4, 2021 Update: German prosecutors say they have "strong new evidence" against convicted sex offender Brueckner in relation to the 2007 disappearance of Madeleine. An insider on the German investigation said: “The evidence is strong & puts him in the area where Madeleine vanished. The prime suspect could be charged by Christmas, prosecutors say. Officials have been working towards charging him & say they now have "strong new evidence" for a court date by Christmas.
Oct. 8, 2021 Update: German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters said: “We’re confident we have the man who took & killed her.” Prosecutors investigating paedophile Brueckner on suspicion of murdering Madeleine are certain of his guilt & determined to build the strongest possible case against him. They believe they have the evidence to charge the 44-year-old and it has “100% convinced” them that he killed her. And they hope to be able to bring charges next year. Mr. Wolters said: “It is now possible that we could charge. We have that evidence now. “But it’s not just about charging him – we want to charge him with the best body of evidence possible. “When we still have questions, it would be nonsense to charge rather than wait for the answers that could strengthen our position. “That’s why we said we’ll investigate as long as there are leads or information for us to pursue. I’m not saying that what we have is insufficient now. But he’s in prison, so we don’t have this pressure on us. We have time on our hands.” Mr. Wolters said they have no idea how she died & no DNA or photo evidence linking the German sex offender to the alleged murder. Evidence being investigated includes a “confession” Brueckner made to a pal & phone analysis showing he was at the Ocean Club when the toddler vanished. Mr. Wolters said: “It is circumstantial evidence – we have no scientific evidence. If we had a video of the act or a picture of Madeleine dead with Brueckner on camera, we wouldn’t have had to make a public appeal. But we only have circumstantial evidence.” Brueckner was living in a camper van close to Praia da Luz when Madeleine disappeared. UK & German police first became aware of him as a suspect in 2017 but only went public with it last June. Senior investigators have spoken to potential key witnesses in Germany & Portugal. Mr. Wolters dismissed as “rubbish” a recent report that the probe will end by Christmas, but said it is likely Brueckner will be charged early next year with other alleged offences in Portugal. They include the rape of an Irish woman in the Algarve in 2004 & two incidents where he allegedly flashed at youngsters.
Oct. 17, 2021 Update: There is to be meeting between the PJ & German authorities tomorrow, Oct. 18th & Tuesday, Oct. 19, 2021. The aim is to exchange information & strengthen the process against Bruckner that is taking place in Germany since he is imprisoned in that country in connection with a rape. If the Germans manage to advance to the public indictment for the death of the English girl in Praia da Luz, the Portuguese process should go to Germany, to strengthen the trial.
Oct. 22, 2021 Update: Prosecutors trying to nail the prime suspect in Madeleine McCann’s disappearance are planning a mock trial to test their evidence. They will stage it behind closed doors in a bid to strengthen their case against Brueckner. German investigators made the decision after meeting Portuguese police last week. A source said: “It will be a sort of trial run to see how strong their case is & see what more evidence might be needed to charge him. They are 100% convinced but want to test arguments under cross-examination.” It’s believed the trial “rehearsal” will take place at the investigators’ office, with lawyers split into prosecution & defence teams.
Dec. 16, 2021 Update: The Braunschweig Prosecutor's Office is expected to accuse the suspect, Christian Brüeckner of the rape of a 20-year-old German girl that occurred in Portugal in 2004, three years before the disappearance of the girl Madeleine. According to "Spiegel:, the case of the young German shows parallels with the rape of a 72-year-old American in 2005 in Praia da Luz (southern Portugal) for which Christian B. has already been sentenced to seven years in prison. In both cases, the victims were threatened with a 12-inch long knife. The young German woman could not see the face of her assailant since he wore his face covered with a hat like a balaclava. Brüeckner is currently serving another jail term for a drug trafficking conviction & has not been formally charged in the kidnapping & possible murder of Madeleine McCann, although he is the prime suspect for investigators.

 

[Dlk79]

Just noticed in JC's book he says the following about the buried dog:

I believe this is Brueckner’s beloved Charlie, who had died in his Braunschweig apartment in 2014 and he had been brought here to bury.

Doesn't say when exactly in 2014 this was but if true, it predates Inga. CB was sent the summons for interview about the MM case in November 2013 (although it's not clear when he actually attended) and had his apartment raided in Feb 2014 where they found the panikspatz chat, the photos of his ex girlfriends daughter and other CP on his devices.

It seems logical therefore that the dog burial and attempt to destroy his remaining devices took place around this time that police were all over him for CP. Lord knows what other incriminating evidence may have turned to ash on that bonfire.

 

[Sharkbite]

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Following recent numberplate discussions , I was reading a bit about the blue Bedford van..according to attached link...seems to be a bit of ambiguity about whether this van was impounded before or after MM disappearance.
Unfortunately it was scrapped.

According to this article the Bedford van was impounded in November 2007 (I think this is the episode that Amaral refers to when he says that checks were made on CB but he wasn't home)

"But Brueckner never paid the fine and when police tried to enforce payment in November 2007 he had disappeared from the address in Barrocal that he had given the court.

It is at that point that the Bedford van is believed to have been impounded by the police in lieu of the unpaid fine."

Portuguese police unwittingly destroyed Christian Brueckner's van before it could be searched | Daily Mail Online

 

[tedtink]

Just noticed in JC's book he says the following about the buried dog:

I believe this is Brueckner’s beloved Charlie, who had died in his Braunschweig apartment in 2014 and he had been brought here to bury.

Doesn't say when exactly in 2014 this was but if true, it predates Inga. CB was sent the summons for interview about the MM case in November 2013 (although it's not clear when he actually attended) and had his apartment raided in Feb 2014 where they found the panikspatz chat, the photos of his ex girlfriends daughter and other CP on his devices.

It seems logical therefore that the dog burial and attempt to destroy his remaining devices took place around this time that police were all over him for CP. Lord knows what other incriminating evidence may have turned to ash on that bonfire.

So do you mean CB may have dug a pit , put the Lidl bag with the firewood & m/sticks into the pit first, then piled a load of other stuff on the top, set fire to it?
If the bag went in first, like you say, they'd be little air in the bottom of the pit to ignite it, so the contents could have just melted from heat and may not have been destroyed completely, or could have melted into one big blob - BKA never said what condition they were in after all.
I do wonder if BKA were able to get any data at all from them?
Then do you think he buried Charlie (wrapped in a blanket) in the pit on top of the bonfire ash, then covered him over with soil?
Sorry, bit muddled about the order of things - You didn't mean that he tried to torch Charlie too?

JMO

 

[Dlk79]

So do you mean CB may have dug a pit , put the Lidl bag with the firewood & m/sticks into the pit first, then piled a load of other stuff on the top, set fire to it?
If the bag went in first, like you say, they'd be no air in the bottom of the pit to ignite it, so the contents could have just melted from heat and may not have been destroyed completely.
I do wonder if BKA were able to get any data at all from them?
Then do you think he buried Charlie (wrapped in a blanket) in the pit on top of the bonfire ash, then covered him over with soil?
Sorry, but muddled about the order of things - You didn't mean that he tried to torch Charlie too?

JMO

The grounds and interior floors of the box factory all seem to be concrete. In the footage and photos, you can see various pits and craters spread about the place. So I'm wondering if he just put everything into one of these holes, Charlie included, and torched it. As for why he'd burn the dog, not sure. He couldn't just let it rot though and I suppose it would save digging a big hole. Maybe he even thought the dog might be incrimating in some way. The dog's hairs or perhaps the dog appeared in the background of some of CB's videos etc

It's hard to know what you can believe in the various accounts but it was said that an officer kicked the ash of an apparent bonfire and saw the bone of a dog. So that would seem there was no soil covering it, nor a blanket which presumably had burnt away.

ETA: do we know how many different dogs CB had around this time? The accounts are confusing. JC says Charlie died in CB's apartment. FF claims a dog was euthanized due to incurable cancer. Is it possible that CB euthanized the dog himself in the apartment? You'd think if it was done at a Vet clinic that they would also take care of the cremation?

 

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You'd think if it was done at a Vet clinic that they would also take care of the cremation?

Or the vet might remember or have a record of euthanising the dog.

 

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but I find it difficult to think that he wouldn't have taken the dogs with him during 2014?? Maybe Charlie then died after 2014? jmo

Maybe he went to Portugal just after Charlie had died (from 'cancer') and after he'd buried/burned the bag?
Was there other stuff in Portugal that needed dealing with I wonder?




JMO