Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #29

[RichardKimble]

Maddie suspect Christian Brueckner describes himself as the 'most known bad person in the world' | Daily Mail Online

He wrote that he hadn't attacked anyone since he was 18 which we know is an absolute lie.

His command of English is good, who translates and is it checked prior to leaving the jail postage system ?

 

[RichardKimble]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-prime-suspect-reveals-26778566

Seems they will air the C5 doc on May 3rd . Probably good news for MWT as currently with everything still going on
behind the scenes he can put his 4 person alibi out there ,
which is obviously the selling point of the doc . I don’t believe it for one second and wasn’t impressed by his recent interview with New Zealand tv if I’m honest . No
conspiracy here , they’ve got the right person just got to let
the BKA get on with it .

Not so sure theres nothing on the CH 5 schedule ,not to say it can't change.

.TV listings – Channel 5

 

[Lilly b]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-prime-suspect-reveals-26778566

Seems they will air the C5 doc on May 3rd . Probably good news for MWT as currently with everything still going on
behind the scenes he can put his 4 person alibi out there ,
which is obviously the selling point of the doc . I don’t believe it for one second and wasn’t impressed by his recent interview with New Zealand tv if I’m honest . No
conspiracy here , they’ve got the right person just got to let
the BKA get on with it .

Yeh, defo right person. As to the alibi, it's gone from an 18 year old holiday fling, now to 4 people .

 

[Ausgrlz]

I think he has always had a pretty good alibi, it is why he was never obviously on the police's radar. Or able to be picked up before an image was found. Indeed they are still ensuring they get him convicted of the more easy cases prior to mm. As previously stated I believe this wasn’t an opportunist robbery but rather a planned abduction with the victim observed over a number of days with the other person (i.e. the two blond men on the balcony next door). This enabled an alibi to be developed. I do think his ‘real’ phone was elsewhere and they are trying to pin down a burner phone. IMO. Curious to see if the red shirt with the white circle comes up again.

 

[Dlk79]

There appears to be a high level of Naivety regarding this investigation.
How can someone be declared as a POI for 2 Years with no action taken against them.

Unless something is discovered to exhonerate the suspect, they could theoretically remain a person of interest indefinitely. My take on it is the BKA had strong grounds to suspect him of the crime when the appeal was made two years ago, and everything else they've found in the intervening period, has only strengthened that belief. They've found nothing to dispute it. On the other hand, they still haven't found the 'smoking-gun' to assure a conviction. But according to HCW, they do have enough to charge, but since they are under no time pressure they will continue and hopefully gather even further evidence to strengthen their case.

I know a lot of people have a gripe with the length of time, but when you analyse HCW's rationale, it does make absolute sense. CB is going nowhere, why rush into a charge when you don't need to yet?

This person named by press and authorities cannot possibly have a fair trial in any country as it would be difficult to find a jury that were not aware of him.

If he is charged, it will almost certainly be made in Germany. In a German murder trial, there is no jury. The case is evaluated by professional Judges who aren't going to be swayed by tabloid stories.

Would police not seek authority by placing evidence in front of the equiv. of CPS to get a decision before leaking the POI to media?

The German equivalent of the CPS are the Public Prosecutors. That is who HCW works for and they are the ones who made the appeal and who have been communicating with the press. In order to make the public appeal, the Prosecutors have to go before a judge and explain their rationale behind it. The Judge then determines based on the credibility of the existing evidence if a public appeal is justified. In this case, they obviously thought it was.

IMO As Portuguese law is now close to being able to try an Arguido, They just want to put anyone in the dock and even of the case fails the authorities and media can say:

"We had a suspect but no proof-Case closed"

I think that is naive. Personally I think the Arguido move is just to keep all options open. And to provide justification for the Portuguese to continue working on the case, alongside the Germans, once the SOL has expired.

One question-Who would be called to provide evidence at such atrial and would the questions perhaps provide more answers?

Well for starters there will be the person who claims CB told him that that he snatched MM. A lot of people seem to want to conveniently gloss over that bit. This person is being written off as an unreliable witness, yet people don't yet even know what he has to say or what the BKA have been able to independently corroborate. The police don't see him as unreliable and he was used as a key witness in the rape trial against CB and was believed by the Judge there too.

I have never seen a case before where all of the tabloids are so united around what they publish or are allowed to publish.

I don't think it has been united. The tabs flip flop between him being bang to rights one minute and totally innocent the next. The only constant is the churning of stories, any story, that gets them 'clicks'. The truth of the matter is the MM saga is a peculiarity in its own right. It's probably the biggest missing person mystery of all time and the coverage of it has been ever-present in the media for the last 15 years. The barrage of stories over the last 2 years shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone given the circumstances. Like it or not, the incessant media coverage is driven by the public's interest in the case.

 

[Vern]

His command of English is good, who translates and is it checked prior to leaving the jail postage system ?

Meh; apparently he is not being availed of television in German prison or is suffering from "legend in his own mind" syndrome else he'd be aware of a much more world famous badman with the first name of Vladmir.

#JusticeforMaddie

 

[tedtink]

IMO As Portuguese law is now close to being able to try an Arguido, They just want to put anyone in the dock and even of the case fails the authorities and media can say:

"We had a suspect but no proof-Case closed"

One question-Who would be called to provide evidence at such atrial and would the questions perhaps provide more answers?

Why would the Portuguese put CB in the dock with no evidence, when they have, in your words 'no proof'?

That doesn't make sense unless they want to show themselves up as totally incompetent for the second time around.

JMO

 

[Dlk79]

Think MWT is talking about the MM doc here. Could we possibly finally see it airing on Channel 5 for the 3rd in line with what the Spanish TV schedule is claiming?

That background in the bottom right MWT post looks familiar....

Hmm. It seems MWT has since deleted this tweet unless I'm missing something. The plot thickens....

 

[tedtink]

Hmm. It seems MWT has since deleted this tweet unless I'm missing something. The plot thickens....

Could be wrong, but maybe he's re-editing the 3rd episode for some unknown reason?

 

[mrjitty]

The German equivalent of the CPS are the Public Prosecutors. That is who HCW works for and they are the ones who made the appeal and who have been communicating with the press. In order to make the public appeal, the Prosecutors have to go before a judge and explain their rationale behind it. The Judge then determines based on the credibility of the existing evidence if a public appeal is justified. In this case, they obviously thought it was.

RSBM

My problem is, I don't think there is in fact any judicial oversight on HCW's running commentary on the case.

So when contacted for comment yet again, he claims CB is guilty in 3 or 4 other cases, which apparently will be prosecuted in the summer, and then MM at some vague time, if at all.

So I get your arguments that prosecutors may decide to run with their stronger case, and have some good evidence but don't need to go to trial yet - but then please stop trying the case in the media, while keeping evidence secret.

 

[mrjitty]

Hmm. It seems MWT has since deleted this tweet unless I'm missing something. The plot thickens....

The delays would make sense if they had to make changes. I do wonder if there was some legal fight over part of it.

 

[Dlk79]

RSBM

My problem is, I don't think there is in fact any judicial oversight on HCW's running commentary on the case.

So when contacted for comment yet again, he claims CB is guilty in 3 or 4 other cases, which apparently will be prosecuted in the summer, and then MM at some vague time, if at all.

So I get your arguments that prosecutors may decide to run with their stronger case, and have some good evidence but don't need to go to trial yet - but then please stop trying the case in the media, while keeping evidence secret.

BBM

Please provide a cite for that. I think you are misrepresenting what HCW has actually said.

 

[Dlk79]

The delays would make sense if they had to make changes. I do wonder if there was some legal fight over part of it.

That was my thoughts too. I wonder if some of the content is not allowed to be broadcast maybe.

 

[mrjitty]

BBM

Please provide a cite for that. I think you are misrepresenting what HCW has actually said.

OK - you are technically correct - he says he is investigating CB for that - but my point still holds. Why is he mentioning that case in public at all?

It ends up being a shopping list of cases he thinks he might be able to charge, with timetable.

I am uncomfortable with that.

Anyway - I have explained my view, so I leave it at that. Hopefully at some point, something will actually be charged so we can discuss a proper case.

 

[mrjitty]

Interesting that it’s also reported he didn’t answer when questioned about where he was that night. Happy to have a journalist as his audience, not the police…. If he’s so confident in his alibi why not share it with them?

Because when German police interrogate him, they have to share the relevant case against him. So any suspect in this situation is best advised to wait for official questioning by the germans.

 

[Dlk79]

OK - you are technically correct - he says he is investigating CB for that - but my point still holds. Why is he mentioning that case in public at all?

It ends up being a shopping list of cases he thinks he might be able to charge, with timetable.

I am uncomfortable with that.

Anyway - I have explained my view, so I leave it at that. Hopefully at some point, something will actually be charged so we can discuss a proper case.

But I do actually think this is part of the problem. You assumed that HCW has said something along those lines because of the way the Press is choosing to 'spin' things.

A lot of the criticism of HCW should be directed at the tabloids. The problem is, he is under bombardment from them. They get wind of the BKA investigating CB for one of these other crimes, then approach him for comment. He's then between a rock and a hard place and needs to keep the media on side. If he says nothing, they'll run their own interpretation of the stories anyway and slowly start turning against him.

That's my view on it anyway, but I understand where you are coming from. I certainly don't envy his job though.

 

[mrjitty]

One thing to bear in mind is that MWT always hands over his findings to the investigating authorities ahead of the documentary broadcast. Watch any of his docs and he always says this at the end of the program. So I think it's pretty much certain, that whatever he's uncovered, the BKA and German Prosecutors know about it. They are still saying CB is their prime suspect and they are still pushing to charge. So I have doubts that this 'alibi' is as strong as MWT is trying to sell it as.

BIB

I am sure prosecutor Gerrie Nel was fascinated by MWT's "findings"

 

[mrjitty]

But I do actually think this is part of the problem. You assumed that HCW has said something along those lines because of the way the Press is choosing to 'spin' things.

A lot of the criticism of HCW should be directed at the tabloids. The problem is, he is under bombardment from them. They get wind of the BKA investigating CB for one of these other crimes, then approach him for comment. He's then between a rock and a hard place and needs to keep the media on side. If he says nothing, they'll run their own interpretation of the stories anyway and slowly start turning against him.

That's my view on it anyway, but I understand where you are coming from. I certainly don't envy his job though.

I agree the issue is the tabloids, but that was what I was afraid of way back in '20 when this first broke. Now we have entire documentaries, sofa chat shows, podcasts etc devoted to guilt or otherwise of someone not even charged with any crime. History repeats itself in this case.

Anyway - see you in 5 years

 

[Davieson]

I agree the issue is the tabloids, but that was what I was afraid of way back in '20 when this first broke. Now we have entire documentaries, sofa chat shows, podcasts etc devoted to guilt or otherwise of someone not even charged with any crime. History repeats itself in this case.

Anyway - see you in 5 years

This is a major problem with all the media.
They can and do put out all sorts of guff and people lap it up and accept it as the truth without further scrutiny.

 

[RichardKimble]

Interesting that it’s also reported he didn’t answer when questioned about where he was that night. Happy to have a journalist as his audience, not the police…. If he’s so confident in his alibi why not share it with them?

Can I take you back to 2014, grange were supposedly asking did you kill Madeleine, was it confirmed questions as such were asked or was it media talk, much like what's reported now I'd suggest, pays your money takes your choice on what is actually true . I know things have moved on, but media wise I think its got worse. Rowley in 2017 said at the heart of this is a young child who has gone missing, Madeleine is way down on the media moral compass.

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