Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #29

[SuperdadV8]

I also wonder if CB documented DM’s rape and if ‘das buch’ 1 or 2 was part of the evidence in that case too?
If so, maybe it has already been accepted by the court as a confession and this is why HCW feels he can press ahead with the other rapes.
HCW has never mentioned ‘das buch’ and IIRC it was GA that blabbed about it around about the same time he was negatively commenting on the DM rape.

jmo

Someone who tells other sickos on skype that he will document exactly how someone is gonna be tortured by him, documented these things in his past very likely IMO. And maybe far beyond from just writing a diary....

 

[Dlk79]

I also wonder if CB documented DM’s rape and if ‘das buch’ 1 or 2 was part of the evidence in that case too?
If so, maybe it has already been accepted by the court as a confession and this is why HCW feels he can press ahead with the other rapes.
HCW has never mentioned ‘das buch’ and IIRC it was GA that blabbed about it around about the same time he was negatively commenting on the DM rape.

jmo

That was my thoughts too. I recall reading there were large parts of the DM evidence redacted and I wonder if the autobiographic transcripts were part of what the trial was actually about. Rather than it just being about one hair convicting him, was the reason that the HB and MS testimony was so useful due to them being able to describe seeing something that CB had himself wrote about. And that because he'd then also wrote about DM, it helped convince the Judge the book was genuinely things that he had done.

Since the books affect other cases too, it's existence was then deliberately kept secret after the trial. Until Amaral blabbed about it in his own book that is. I suspect that he probably learned about this from FF with whom he has been clearly been in extensive contact with and who would know about all the evidence in the DM case since he dealt with the appeal.

 

[tedtink]

That was my thoughts too. I recall reading there were large parts of the DM evidence redacted and I wonder if the autobiographic transcripts were part of what the trial was actually about. Rather than it just being about one hair convicting him, was the reason that the HB and MS testimony was so useful due to them being able to describe seeing something that CB had himself wrote about. And that because he'd then also wrote about DM, it helped convince the Judge the book was genuinely things that he had done.

Since the books affect other cases too, it's existence was then deliberately kept secret after the trial. Until Amaral blabbed about it in his own book that is. I suspect that he probably learned about this from FF with whom he has been clearly been in extensive contact with and who would know about all the evidence in the DM case since he dealt with the appeal.

If that is the case, then it’s been accepted by the Court, that CB’s writings and verbal admissions are not just some kind of fantasists ramblings.
A precedent has been set.
IMO

 

[C.greek]

I also wonder if CB documented DM’s rape and if ‘das buch’ 1 or 2 was part of the evidence in that case too?
If so, maybe it has already been accepted by the court as a confession and this is why HCW feels he can press ahead with the other rapes.
HCW has never mentioned ‘das buch’ and IIRC it was GA that blabbed about it around about the same time he was negatively commenting on the DM rape.

jmo

Had they found the autobiographies then?

 

[C.greek]

RSBM

Your top criminal lawyer would advise you to do exactly that.

e.g. if your alibi depends on other people who are lying or misremembering, that could be crucial information to have. HCW is being disingenuous to say that someone who is accused publicly, should disclose key details of their defence, while the state keeps its evidence secret.

I'd actually do what FF attempted. Get aspects of the alibi out there, without saying anything can be used by the state against me.

I think we keep forgetting his 2013 witness statement about his exact whereabouts around and on the 3rd of May. If he had an alibi he should have provided it then. It appears he either didn't or the witnesses the BKA asked to confirm that alibi did not confirm it.

 

[tedtink]

Had they found the autobiographies then?

Yes they had.

With thanks....... Dlk79

Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #28

 

[Lilly b]

Yes they had.

With thanks....... Dlk79

Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #28

Why the wood though ? I'm not scientific, but is there a reason ? Or is it random. It's not to weigh things down,. Could it act as something to do with moisture and the usb sticks etc ?

 

[Dlk79]

Why the wood though ? I'm not scientific, but is there a reason ? Or is it random. It's not to weigh things down,. Could it act as something to do with moisture and the usb sticks etc ?

It was reported that this burial site was covered with the remnants of ash like a bonfire. Could be that he was trying to burn all the incriminating evidence there after realising they were on to him, hence the firewood.

 

[Lilly b]

It was reported that this burial site was covered with the remnants of ash like a bonfire. Could be that he was trying to burn all the incriminating evidence there after realising they were on to him, hence the firewood.

But didn't it says the wood was in the bag, or have I misread ,,?

 

[Davieson]

A short burst in a microwave would have been more effective for the USBs

 

[Dlk79]

A short burst in a microwave would have been more effective for the USBs

Maybe he tried that but the dog didn't fit.

 

[Dlk79]

But didn't it says the wood was in the bag, or have I misread ,,?

It just says the bag was "containing firewood" (among other things). If there was a bonfire on top of the bag, firewood may have entered it from the fire itself or placed in the bag to help it burn. We don't know if the bag was intact or burnt or what state it was in. But it would seem it was underneath the fire remains and the fire had petered out before the contents of the bag were fully destroyed.

 

[C.greek]

We also seem to keep ignoring the skype chats - there is no way the only one they found was with panikspatz... or that the lines we have seen are all there is to this chat... if this was the only chat they have between CB and panikspatz why bother interviewing panikspatz more than once?

CB definitely has a tendency to write and draw and take videos and pictures. The BKA must have such evidence otherwise they wouldn't be talking about him being the perpetrator. Therefore the autobiographic books make sense

Jmo

 

[Dlk79]

We also seem to keep ignoring the skype chats - there is no way the only one they found was with panikspatz... or that the lines we have seen are all there is to this chat... if this was the only chat they have between CB and panikspatz why bother interviewing panikspatz more than once?

CB definitely has a tendency to write and draw and take videos and pictures. The BKA must have such evidence otherwise they wouldn't be talking about him being the perpetrator. Therefore the autobiographic books make sense

Jmo

I agree absolutely regarding the chats. We have only been told about one individual skype chat that they uncovered. A shocking one at that and strategically released by the police to give an insight into the mind of this individual IMO. The idea that this is the sole incriminating chat history they found on his laptop is extremely unlikely.

 

[SuperdadV8]

According to some reports behind paywalls, CB appealed for early release from prison after serving half time of the DM rape sentence. The appeal has been rejected.

 

[mrjitty]

That was my thoughts too. I recall reading there were large parts of the DM evidence redacted and I wonder if the autobiographic transcripts were part of what the trial was actually about. Rather than it just being about one hair convicting him, was the reason that the HB and MS testimony was so useful due to them being able to describe seeing something that CB had himself wrote about. And that because he'd then also wrote about DM, it helped convince the Judge the book was genuinely things that he had done.

I think your autobiography theory is much more likely than the photograph/video theory. It would make sense if they had this and the confession, and then when they investigated their theory of the case, they found out about the jaguar, and evidence connecting him to OC and burglaries.

This would lead them to believe their theory was correct. But lacks any direct evidence tying him to the murder, thus not charged yet.

I've speculated a few times that CB wrote or confessed some fact that only the killer could know, and perhaps they have tried to verify that.

I saw this in a different no body case where they had a partial confession to a rat.

Since the books affect other cases too, it's existence was then deliberately kept secret after the trial. Until Amaral blabbed about it in his own book that is. I suspect that he probably learned about this from FF with whom he has been clearly been in extensive contact with and who would know about all the evidence in the DM case since he dealt with the appeal.

Possible though i also suspect GA's sources are in PJ. It was pretty clear in the Lisbon trial that he has supporters there.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I think your autobiography theory is much more likely than the photograph/video theory. It would make sense if they had this and the confession, and then when they investigated their theory of the case, they found out about the jaguar, and evidence connecting him to OC and burglaries.

This would lead them to believe their theory was correct. But lacks any direct evidence tying him to the murder, thus not charged yet.

I've speculated a few times that CB wrote or confessed some fact that only the killer could know, and perhaps they have tried to verify that.

I saw this in a different no body case where they had a partial confession to a rat.



Possible though i also suspect GA's sources are in PJ. It was pretty clear in the Lisbon trial that he has supporters there.

I agree now, no photo/video just written and verbal confessions, and then possibly coincidental stuff like a phone call close to the abduction time-frame/location, the change of registration on the Jag and the fact that CB is the worst kind of human being.

Not confident he will ever be charged on that (unfortunately) and if that’s all there is, I’m not even convinced myself that he is the perp - people like CB bs all the time to make themselves more important, badass or whatever.

I think the best we can hope for is a confession but in reality, even if CB is guilty, I doubt very much he will ever fess up!

 

[RichardKimble]

I've speculated a few times that CB wrote or confessed some fact that only the killer could know, and perhaps they have tried to verify that.

Snipped by me, that only works surely if more than one person knows , how is it corroborated otherwise ?

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Snipped by me, that only works surely if more than one person knows , how is it corroborated otherwise ?

Well just for example if something from the 5A crime scene was not disclosed to the public … sure there would be other possibilities too.

 

[RichardKimble]

Well just for example if something from the 5A crime scene was not disclosed to the public … sure there would be other possibilities too.

From 5a , the much maligned PJ kept something back, not many other possibilities in this case imo.