Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #30

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  • #101
Nobody has confirmed it not even the tabloids... We are in the dark as to the van's whereabouts

So the ominous van could be the holy grail. Where is it's whereabout? There are pics, right!

From which year? Or what Location?
 
  • #102
So the ominous van could be the holy grail. Where is it's whereabout? There are pics, right!

From which year? Or what Location?

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Amaral handed the presenter what he claimed were photos of the vehicle taken last year, showing it had cartoon-style characters painted on the front and back, and a Portuguese number plate.

I very much doubt the BKA gave GA that pic ;)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/portuguese-police-looking-madeleine-mccann-22235786
 
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  • #103
So the ominous van could be the holy grail. Where is it's whereabout? There are pics, right!

From which year? Or what Location?
Do we believe them?

From 2020

They want to speak to anyone who has relevant information on the man, whom they did not name, or the movements of two vehicles linked to him during the period around the disappearance. Both cars, a Volkswagen camper van and a Jaguar, are now in the possession of German police.


British and German police seek information on new Madeleine McCann suspect
 
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Do we believe them?

From 2020

They want to speak to anyone who has relevant information on the man, whom they did not name, or the movements of two vehicles linked to him during the period around the disappearance. Both cars, a Volkswagen camper van and a Jaguar, are now in the possession of German police.


British and German police seek information on new Madeleine McCann suspect

I really don't know what to think :(
Could they mean the VW Winnebago in your link? We know they had that and the Jag, so that's 2 vehicles.
But maybe media thought BKA had the VW Westfalia because they released the first pics of it? But those pics actually came from CB's stash.
 
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  • #106
I really don't know what to think :(
Could they mean the VW Winnebago in your link? We know they had that.
But maybe media thought BKA had the VW because they were the one's that released the first pics of it? But those pics actually came from CB's stash.

Also from 2020

The son of the German scrap dealer who bought a VW camper van from the McCann suspect told how police turned up last year to take it away for forensic examination.

He said Brueckner would occasionally leave the van at their premises but in 2015 sold it to his father for £4,500.

Last year Portuguese police seized the vehicle.




Maddie McCann suspect sold his VW campervan in 2015 to a car scrapyard - ReadSector Female
 
  • #107
The van is still in portugal, right?

The portugese prosecutors are searching for evidence. That makes much sense! No pic of the van in seizure. But it should already look like a LEGO-KIT right at the moment!

They found something, but coordination might be "cumbersome"!

Good night!
 
  • #108
The van is still in portugal, right?

The portugese prosecutors are searching for evidence. That makes much sense! No pic of the van in seizure. But it should already look like a LEGO-KIT right at the moment!

They found something, but coordination might be "cumbersome"!

Good night!

Is interesting then that SF asked HCW if he had found something in the campervan....if it was Portuguese police who have found something..and she had got a tip from a Portuguese source...
Unless she just meant police in general had found something..?

https://fb.watch/cM7wNnvoco/
 
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  • #109
Is interesting then that SF asked HCW if he had found something in the campervan....if it was Portuguese police who have found something..and she had got a tip from a Portuguese source...
Unless she just meant police in general had found something..?

https://fb.watch/cM7wNnvoco/

HCW is the spokesman for the public prosecutor's office, so it would make sense that SF would ask him.
'You' meaning the investigation as a whole imo.
 
  • #110
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Amaral handed the presenter what he claimed were photos of the vehicle taken last year, showing it had cartoon-style characters painted on the front and back, and a Portuguese number plate.

I very much doubt the BKA gave GA that pic ;)

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/portuguese-police-looking-madeleine-mccann-22235786
Anyone that has seriously looked into this knows that it was 100% white and yellow in 2007 I don’t see this has any relevance to the time of said crime
 
  • #111
What if he had a false floor or similar hidden spot in the van? A place where (I'm sooooooo sorry) he could keep her for days. Recently discovered. Where items/fibers were discovered.

The 17 year old could only imagine the demeanor of someone who'd just stolen a child, murdered a child, but that's not how seasoned and putrid souls operate. He was probably plenty cool. Measured. Horrific.

JMO
 
  • #112
Already told you yesterday!;)

But this all seems very strange that the van was in portugal and wasn't properly examined back in '20? GA had a photo of it back then.

For all the different articles, even in MSM, they all have the same source i.e Sandra F based on a leak from PJ

I am wondering if they found this evidence back in '20, and it is only being leaked now?
 
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  • #113
The sheets maybe, as i assumed earlier. But it's still forensics in every country in the world.
So probably the "evidence" mentioned by HCW is evidence that has not yet undergone a (full) forensical examination.
 
  • #114
Oh for goodness sake.

What is kind of remarkable is that the likes of the Sun have written traces of MMs pyjamas were found in the van - based on what exactly?
 
  • #115
What is kind of remarkable is that the likes of the Sun have written traces of MMs pyjamas were found in the van - based on what exactly?
I think based on our speculations here :rolleyes:
 
  • #116
Personally, I'm none the wiser. No idea if these "traces" are something genuine and vital to the case that has leaked out, or if this is just wild media speculation based on hearsay. Or if it's actually something in the middle, strong evidence of another nature maybe that has been misunderstood/misinterpreted.

If there's no imminent plans to charge, we might not find out for a while.

After seeing the teaser trailer about the "traces", I was half expecting the actual interview to leave more questions than answers on that particular question... and it did.

What I actually found more interesting was how HCW responded/reacted to the questions about NF. The same rabbit-in-the-headlights look he had the last time SF asked him abour her. She plays a big role in this case and HCW knows it IMO.
 
  • #117
I agree NF holds the key to the truth, she’s the type that will take it to the grave Unfortunately unless there’s something in it for her.
JMO
 
  • #118
Personally, I'm none the wiser. No idea if these "traces" are something genuine and vital to the case that has leaked out, or if this is just wild media speculation based on hearsay. Or if it's actually something in the middle, strong evidence of another nature maybe that has been misunderstood/misinterpreted.

If there's no imminent plans to charge, we might not find out for a while.

After seeing the teaser trailer about the "traces", I was half expecting the actual interview to leave more questions than answers on that particular question... and it did.

What I actually found more interesting was how HCW responded/reacted to the questions about NF. The same rabbit-in-the-headlights look he had the last time SF asked him abour her. She plays a big role in this case and HCW knows it IMO.

The latest update yields more questions than answers. With ‘fibre traces’ I’m pretty sure they would be forensic evidence & HCW has denied they have forensic evidence. (Any thoughts?)
SF is absolute, she seems so sure. I do think she & others have been privy to some information, IMO something has definitely changed because the McCann’s, the PJ & the BKA all now appear convinced that this horrific crime occurred.

As for NF. She clearly has a very questionable past. That said, the BKA are incredibly detailed & relentless. So IMO, if she was the caller or had some knowledge of the crime, they’d probably have found clues to suggest that.
 
  • #119
SF is absolute, she seems so sure. I do think she & others have been privy to some information

I agree with this and it perhaps signals that the BKA do have everything they need to charge. The Germans have run a controlled investigation. It might not be ideal, and I share everyone else’s concerns with HCW’s media strategy but from the German side, he has been the sole mouthpiece. It looks like they have now shared info with the PJ and within five minutes a gutter journalist knows key pieces of evidence … and she is very confident about what she knows. I think the BKA knew with certainty this would happen so the fact that they have shared info is really telling. JMO.
 
  • #120
The latest update yields more questions than answers. With ‘fibre traces’ I’m pretty sure they would be forensic evidence & HCW has denied they have forensic evidence. (Any thoughts?)
SF is absolute, she seems so sure. I do think she & others have been privy to some information, IMO something has definitely changed because the McCann’s, the PJ & the BKA all now appear convinced that this horrific crime occurred.

As for NF. She clearly has a very questionable past. That said, the BKA are incredibly detailed & relentless. So IMO, if she was the caller or had some knowledge of the crime, they’d probably have found clues to suggest that.
This is the problem, we just don't know what it is that has been actually been said to SF and consequently how much of it is 'fact' or 'interpretation'. I do agree that there has been a significant shift in narrative though from the various interested parties, so something has developed (or finally been shared by the BKA) I'm sure.

One possibility is SF (or her source) has minterpreted what the evidence actually is. For example, say they have been told something like "they've got physical evidence of MM being in the van". She might interpret that as meaning they must have found a physical forensic trace in the vehicle of something belonging to MM. Whereas this evidence might actually be something like a photograph showing "MM in the van". And that's possibly why they are still combing it in the hope they can find forensic confirmation. Or maybe something more obscure than a photo, such a cadaver dog alerting in the vehicle. I wonder how that news would go down in various quarters...
 
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