Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #34

[enquirer6]

SuperdadV8

Where has he gone?

I miss his posts.

 

[RichardKimble]

ALE cannot recall where exactly she was the night MM disappeared, that is why HCW said CB has no alibi, IMO.
I believe BKA/HCW gave up with MM's case, and they will focus in the other crimes, and that they think that the only way to solve MM's crime is with a confession of CB. All this also my opinion.
I expect they continue searching for new evidence on MM's case.

We know from HCW that there are no forensics, I'd venture very little substance from witness , so a body might be the only evidence that can be looked for imo.

 

[enquirer6]

We know from HCW that there are no forensics, I'd venture very little substance from witness , so a body might be the only evidence that can be looked for imo.

IF Mark Harrison is right that Madeleine's remains were thrown into the sea, Madeleine's remains will not be found.

 

[Mex]

I think he used the 17 year old for alibi purposes.

He well could've made sure she was "asleep" while he went on his mission.... in which case she wouldn't have even known if he was on the sick prowl.

And again, if she thought she was having a fling and he seemed present and attentive, no way could she have a 60th sense that he was a efficient kidnapper, able to slink into a hotel room, swipe a baby, and nary be missed.

Jmo

He was able to slink into DM's home unobserved. If he had murdered her as she feared he would, he would never have paid the price for it. Because without her corroborating account already in the police files and testimony, a friend's description of the video probably would not have been sufficient evidence to reach a court.

Similarly no-one witnessed his alleged coming and going into HB's accommodation until she recognised the similarity to the ordeal suffered by DM and hers as was recorded in the files.

Doing what CB did with stealth and preparation to DM and what he is alleged to have done to HB really isn't an easy thing to prove.

On the surface of it, we have
(a) a missing child
(b) an open window and raised shutter
(c) a man carrying a child walking briskly away from the scene
Without the victims' statements and the corroborating witness to the video statement, that very well could have been all that marked the ordeal suffered by DM and that of HB.
I do wish critics would bear in mind the difficulties the police must have confronted to give a voice to MM

 

[RichardKimble]

He was able to slink into DM's home unobserved. If he had murdered her as she feared he would, he would never have paid the price for it. Because without her corroborating account already in the police files and testimony, a friend's description of the video probably would not have been sufficient evidence to reach a court.

Similarly no-one witnessed his alleged coming and going into HB's accommodation until she recognised the similarity to the ordeal suffered by DM and hers as was recorded in the files.

Doing what CB did with stealth and preparation to DM and what he is alleged to have done to HB really isn't an easy thing to prove.

On the surface of it, we have
(a) a missing child
(b) an open window and raised shutter
(c) a man carrying a child walking briskly away from the scene
Without the victims' statements and the corroborating witness to the video statement, that very well could have been all that marked the ordeal suffered by DM and that of HB.
I do wish critics would bear in mind the difficulties the police must have confronted to give a voice to MM

Ref item C, Dci Redwood is almost certain that was not an abductor, If Wolters is to be believed why not Redwood.Circa 10pm sighting is the key,always has been imo.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Ref item C, Dci Redwood is almost certain that was not an abductor, If Wolters is to be believed why not Redwood.Circa 10pm sighting is the key,always has been imo.

Until JT goes under oath, I don’t think we can be sure she saw anyone.

According to the witness, CB is not Smithman but at one time he was 60% to 80% certain it was GM. Does it concern you that MS didn’t come forward until RM - who he knew - was made an arguido? When he was, the Smiths reported their sighting the next day.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Until JT goes under oath, I don’t think we can be sure she saw anyone.

According to the witness, CB is not Smithman but at one time he was 60% to 80% certain it was GM. Does it concern you that MS didn’t come forward until RM - who he knew - was made an arguido? When he was, the Smiths reported their sighting the next day.

All three Smith's are unable to identified who the person was, if they see him in person. They all said that in their testinonies.

 

[Mex]

Ref item C, Dci Redwood is almost certain that was not an abductor, If Wolters is to be believed why not Redwood.Circa 10pm sighting is the key,always has been imo.

I agree with you that "Circa 10pm sighting is the key, always has been imo." although I would have put it more in line with it being a little earlier than that.

MM really did not vanish into thin air and my opinion is that we are very much closer to finding out what happened to her than we ever have been before now.

An achievement which can only be arrived at by following the evidence. So let's keep hoping.

 

[Mex]

Until JT goes under oath, I don’t think we can be sure she saw anyone.

According to the witness, CB is not Smithman but at one time he was 60% to 80% certain it was GM. Does it concern you that MS didn’t come forward until RM - who he knew - was made an arguido? When he was, the Smiths reported their sighting the next day.

My opinion - your first sentence is libellous. The rest is off topic. So not really any point in making a response.

 

[Davieson]

Until JT goes under oath, I don’t think we can be sure she saw anyone.

According to the witness, CB is not Smithman but at one time he was 60% to 80% certain it was GM. Does it concern you that MS didn’t come forward until RM - who he knew - was made an arguido? When he was, the Smiths reported their sighting the next day.

I agree entirely with your first line.

Regarding Smithman, the reporting date could just be a coincidence like the registration of the Jaguar car.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I agree entirely with your first line.

Regarding Smithman, the reporting date could just be a coincidence like the registration of the Jaguar car.

It was 12 days after I think - it’s in the PJ files and it was the day after RM was made suspect.

 

[Davieson]

It was 12 days after I think - it’s in the PJ files and it was the day after RM was made suspect.

Could still just be coincidence. Doesn't have to be sinister.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

My opinion - your first sentence is libellous. The rest is off topic. So not really any point in making a response.

Her story changed so much, her statement has no credibility - please read the files to verify this for yourself.

Anyway, I wasn’t responding to you so I don’t care much for your opinion.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Could still just be coincidence. Doesn't have to be sinister.

Yep, that’s true but equally, there could be more to it.

 

[RichardKimble]

Until JT goes under oath, I don’t think we can be sure she saw anyone.

According to the witness, CB is not Smithman but at one time he was 60% to 80% certain it was GM. Does it concern you that MS didn’t come forward until RM - who he knew - was made an arguido? When he was, the Smiths reported their sighting the next day.

There is much about the case in the early days that don't seem to add up.Thing is if some one were to say they were 60/80% sure it was CB, then I'd venture much emphasis would be on that.
But with Redwood all but ruling Tannerman out and doubts on the Smith sighting then Madeline really did disappear without a sighting in the very limited timeline.

 

[Mex]

Her story changed so much, her statement has no credibility - please read the files to verify this for yourself.

Anyway, I wasn’t responding to you so I don’t care much for your opinion.

I value everyone's opinion but on this occasion that is that you have posted ot unsubstantiated nonsense and have been terribly rude to me and libelling JT while doing so. And not a word about CB.

 

[Mex]

There is much about the case in the early days that don't seem to add up.Thing is if some one were to say they were 60/80% sure it was CB, then I'd venture much emphasis would be on that.
But with Redwood all but ruling Tannerman out and doubts on the Smith sighting then Madeline really did disappear without a sighting in the very limited timeline.

Until it is revealed why early days the judicial police had an interest in CB then apparently dropped their investigation into him, nothing can be expected to “add up”. My opinion.

For example Operation Grange expressed interest in the home invasions which had been taking place across the Algarve, resulting in assaults on children. While the judicial police may have had different priorities.

 

[Lyall0814]

Until it is revealed why early days the judicial police had an interest in CB then apparently dropped their investigation into him, nothing can be expected to “add up”. My opinion.

For example Operation Grange expressed interest in the home invasions which had been taking place across the Algarve, resulting in assaults on children. While the judicial police may have had different priorities.

They knocked on a door they thought he might be living at once? Then nobody instructed the foot soldiers to knock on it again. Not exactly "an investigation into him" is it?

 

[Mex]

They knocked on a door they thought he might be living at once? Then nobody instructed the foot soldiers to knock on it again. Not exactly "an investigation into him" is it?

Maybe that is a question best directed to the then coordinator of the case GA who might be expected to know what was happening on his watch.

Incidentally GA is the main promotor of CB's lack of culpability, which suggests he must have something substantial to back his opinion up, don't you think? My opinion.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

There is much about the case in the early days that don't seem to add up.Thing is if some one were to say they were 60/80% sure it was CB, then I'd venture much emphasis would be on that.
But with Redwood all but ruling Tannerman out and doubts on the Smith sighting then Madeline really did disappear without a sighting in the very limited timeline.

If we ever get to the bottom of it and find out what really happened and JT’s sighting at 9:15pm is true, I will genuinely eat my hat… I’ll even make it a sombrero!

I think Smithman is a much better sighting and the fact that no one has ever come forward adds weight to it. But, in an abduction by a stranger crime, it only works in an opportunistic scenario. This seems inconsistent to me with other aspects of the case file - it is a disappearance.

If it was an abduction, it feels planned and it that case, someone abducting MM and carrying her for at least 4-5 minutes seems unlikely.

I completely agree with you on the weirdness of the early part of the investigation.