Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #34

[Jenesaisquoi]

Madeleine McCann's parents issue new statement on missing girl's 20th birthday

Madeleine McCann vanished from her parents' holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, Portugal, in May 2007, and ever since they have continued to hope she is alive and will be reunited with them one day

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Mex]

Unfortunately (but so "lucky" to him) I think the same and insist: this case will only be "solved" with his confession. It's surreal how a meticulous but errant guy like him (if it was him...I really believe it was) has escaped from any sighting, capture...
This, apart from the absurd incompetence from PJ during the first hours upon MM has vanished.

I think people have been taken in by what appears to have been a likeable, personable man.

CB has been described as being very neat and tidy about his personal appearance. Quite dapper in fact. With no problem in attracting female companions.

I doubt if the majority of his friends or acquaintances were given any reason to suspect how deep his lawbreaking actually was.

Plus his nomadic way of life gave him opportunity and a greater range to escape too close an observation.

 

[Malleux]

Since we don’t know how CB killed MM, according to the BKA, it would be interesting to see what charge they eventually bring - murder or manslaughter.

Criteria for Mörd (murder)

The qualifying circumstances are categorized into three groups:

• reprehensible motive/reason of the criminal (base motives).

• reprehensible means of committing the crime (base means of committing the crime).

• reprehensible purpose/aim of the criminal (base aims).

BASE MOTIVES:

• Murderous intent is fulfilled when the only purpose of the crime is to see another human being dying. This motive is very rare in practice.

• Killing to satisfy sexual desires are cases of killing during a rape or killings with the intention to use the dead body for sexual practices. Filming the killing and using the video for sexual stimulation also qualifies.

• Killing out of greed means that the perpetrator kills in order to increase his fortune. This is the case when the perpetrator kills another person in order to rob the victim, or in order to inherit the fortune of the victim, to get the money from the life insurance.

BASE AIMS:

German criminal law also knows the offence of felony murder (intentional killing during the course of a crime, e.g. robbery, kidnapping or sexual assault) which also carries a life sentence. Felony murder falls into the third group of aggravating circumstances (§ 211 II 3 Group: "in order to commit or to cover up another crime"). However the concept of § 211 II 3 Group StGB is broader than felony murder.

Killing in order to commit another crime is also fulfilled when the perpetrator acts with the aim (direct intention – dolus directus of one degree) to commit another crime afterward. Whether he commits it afterward or not is irrelevant. The killing can be done with simple intention (dolus eventualis).

Murder in German law - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Just an observation.

 

[Mex]

I assume this means anything they come across in the course of their investigation, rather than actually searching for evidence to demonstrate innocence.

I believe they have to do just exactly that. They have to give attention to all the evidence and treat it with the same precedence irrespective of what it indicates.

 

[Mex]

HB is just part of the jigsaw.

CB told MT he wanted to sell a child. Shortly before this, he turned up at someone’s door - she thought he was going to take her child. He was witnessed casing the OC. He told his gf he had a horrible life-changing job to do. He was in the general vicinity that night. He’s a burglar, a paedophile and sells cp. He confessed to HB and made various odd incriminating comments to several people. BKA has something that indicates she is dead and it is linked to him - gotta be Das Buch and/or his comms (Panikspatz maybe more). HCW won’t say if he had an accomplice. And there’s more they haven’t told us…

They would like forensics or a body but the cumulative effect of all the evidence will be enough.

But it will be difficult to prosecute a case where the crime took place in another jurisdiction; evidence was taken by 2 other police forces, one force believing the parents did it; the parents believing the child is alive. Flying in all the witnesses and putting them up will be logistically difficult and expensive. FF will have Amaral as his star witness. The British Press will be all over it. It’s a potential nightmare!

It is interesting you think the defence might call GA as a witness.

 

[Pixie Child]

It is interesting you think the defence might call GA as a witness.

Amaral was Head of the investigation so he may be needed to put some documentation into evidence. Ultimately, he found no evidence of parental involvement but I’m sure he will let his views be known.

The fact that it’s Judge only will mean it’s less of a circus than a Jury trial. The Defence will have to focus more on attacking the Prosecution’s case than sowing doubt about who did it.

The Defence won’t call CB. They will have to attack the eye witnesses, the phone evidence, the confessions, HB in particular, Das Buch, Panikspatz, any digital evidence.

Amaral, if called, may be asked by the Prosecution why PJ was showing CB’s pic to witnesses yet didn’t interview him.

 

[Mex]

Amaral was Head of the investigation so he may be needed to put some documentation into evidence. Ultimately, he found no evidence of parental involvement but I’m sure he will let his views be known.

The fact that it’s Judge only will mean it’s less of a circus than a Jury trial. The Defence will have to focus more on attacking the Prosecution’s case than sowing doubt about who did it.

The Defence won’t call CB. They will have to attack the eye witnesses, the phone evidence, the confessions, HB in particular, Das Buch, Panikspatz, any digital evidence.

Amaral, if called, may be asked by the Prosecution why PJ was showing CB’s pic to witnesses yet didn’t interview him.

I had forgotten about CB's photograph being shown. That was to one of the child care staff? who was quite unequivocal about it.

I would like to hear the response to that question.

 

[Malleux]

Just on the point of whether the Prosecutors have photos or videos of MM, we don't need to ponder over the possible interpretations of HCW's responses when he says he cannot "confirm or deny". He has actually suggested they may have such evidence outright himself.


On the Discovery+ documentary he said:

"...On the other hand, we have other evidence. It could be witnesses, photos, videos"


Also in JC's book there's this extract from his interview with HCW:

He also admitted they did still have other key information in the Maddie investigation - ‘maybe video, maybe phone evidence’ - that hadn’t been released to the public, and it was not the time to confirm exactly what. ‘There are quite a lot of things I am still unable to tell you,’ he said


Plus I'm 99% sure HCW also said it in another interview (that their evidence included witnesses, videos or photos) but I'm struggling to locate it right now, I think it was back in 2020 though.

Whether they do or not isn't the point, it was just in reference to the debate over the meaning of his comments when he's been asked the question and responded that he "cannot confirm or deny it". Some people have said this was just a way of brushing off the question, but the point is he has also willingly offerered up the possibility of having photo/video evidence himself.

 

[Malleux]

I had forgotten about CB's photograph being shown. That was to one of the child care staff? who was quite unequivocal about it.

I would like to hear the response to that question.

I'm more interested to know how they "ruled him out" of their enquiries. According to Amaral, CB was on a list of suspects to be questioned back in the early days of the investigation in 2007. He said the list selected was made up of people known to have been active in the area who were either known child sex offenders or burglars.

Amaral claims he doesn't know the reason why CB ended up on the list which seems rather odd given all the other confidential info he's managed to discover and blab about. You'd think that one would be a pretty easy one to find out.

Anyway, all we've been told by Amaral is that they went knocking on CB's door and he wasn't there. What door that supposedly was, I do not know. And to be clear, I'm not criticising the Portuguese for not scouring the country looking for CB afterwards, that's just not practical. But what I don't understand is how they "ruled him out". It was reported that when the PJ passed that list of suspects over to Scotland Yard, CB's name was no longer on it. So that means someone took the conscious effort to take him off that list of suspects. The question is - why?

 

[Mex]

I'm more interested to know how they "ruled him out" of their enquiries. According to Amaral, CB was on a list of suspects to be questioned back in the early days of the investigation in 2007. He said the list selected was made up of people known to have been active in the area who were either known child sex offenders or burglars.

Amaral claims he doesn't know the reason why CB ended up on the list which seems rather odd given all the other confidential info he's managed to discover and blab about. You'd think that one would be a pretty easy one to find out.

Anyway, all we've been told by Amaral is that they went knocking on CB's door and he wasn't there. What door that supposedly was, I do not know. And to be clear, I'm not criticising the Portuguese for not scouring the country looking for CB afterwards, that's just not practical. But what I don't understand is how they "ruled him out". It was reported that when the PJ passed that list of suspects over to Scotland Yard, CB's name was no longer on it. So that means someone took the conscious effort to take him off that list of suspects. The question is - why?

CB was on the police radar in 2007 and the police were showing his photograph to potential witnesses at the time. Then he became invisible in plain sight until his cover was blown in 2017.

We know from GA himself that the direction of the investigation changed in the very early days and the focus was moved from individuals with the same profile as CB.

He may have vanished into obscurity as a direct result. But I was unaware that his name had been deleted from the list of suspects passed to SY.
Is it possible that after all these years of interminable conspiracy theories there was a bona fide one overlooked by all.

 

[Malleux]

He may have vanished into obscurity as a direct result. But I was unaware that his name had been deleted from the list of suspects passed to SY.

Trying to find a MSM source to give you an exact confirmation of his name being removed from the list but it's like searching a needle in a haystack among all the MM articles. Defintely seen it though. Will keep looking but in the meantime there's these reports -


"Their names were on a list of either house robberies or child sexual abuse. But there was no suspicion of abuse by him, so it must have been for robbery that they knocked on that door."

Gonçalo Amaral - Discovery+ documentary


A source said ever since Christian B's "name was released by the German authorities, Amaral, along with many other senior Portuguese police officers, have insisted he is not the man who took Madeleine.

“They looked at him, ruled him out and believe focusing on him distracts from really finding out what may have happened to Madeleine.”

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www.thesun.co.uk

Portuguese police would not answer questions about whether Brueckner was ever spoken to as part of their initial investigation, but reports suggest a German paedophile was looked at and ruled out as a suspect in 2008.

Portuguese police face renewed scrutiny over German paedophile - Jersey Evening Post

Madeleine was abducted from a room on May 3 2007.

www.jerseyeveningpost.com

The investigation was re-opened in 2020 when the Portuguese Prosecutor’s Office received evidence pointing to Christian Brückner, a German who had been previously convicted of a rape in Algarve. Portuguese police had investigated and ruled out Brückner in 2007

Redirect Notice

So what happened when Maddie was allegedly snatched from the resort just five months after he had been let out of prison? Yes, you guessed it ... when a shortlist of 600 potential suspects was drawn up and handed to British police, Christian Brueckner was inexplicably NOT on it. Despite his track record of sex offences being made known locally to the courts and police at least twice, plus their apparent visit to Portimao Prison to find him, he was not considered a person of interest.

Jon Clarke: My search for Madeleine

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Just on the point of whether the Prosecutors have photos or videos of MM, we don't need to ponder over the possible interpretations of HCW's responses when he says he cannot "confirm or deny". He has actually suggested they may have such evidence outright himself.


On the Discovery+ documentary he said:

"...On the other hand, we have other evidence. It could be witnesses, photos, videos"


Also in JC's book there's this extract from his interview with HCW:

He also admitted they did still have other key information in the Maddie investigation - ‘maybe video, maybe phone evidence’ - that hadn’t been released to the public, and it was not the time to confirm exactly what. ‘There are quite a lot of things I am still unable to tell you,’ he said


Plus I'm 99% sure HCW also said it in another interview (that their evidence included witnesses, videos or photos) but I'm struggling to locate it right now, I think it was back in 2020 though.

Whether they do or not isn't the point, it was just in reference to the debate over the meaning of his comments when he's been asked the question and responded that he "cannot confirm or deny it". Some people have said this was just a way of brushing off the question, but the point is he has also willingly offerered up the possibility of having photo/video evidence himself.

It came to my memory a picture of a toddler (crying or laughing) very like to MM, which was circulating in Internet at the time of the 2020 BKA appeal. What have happened with taht pic?

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Trying to find a MSM source to give you an exact confirmation of his name being removed from the list but it's like searching a needle in a haystack among all the MM articles. Defintely seen it though. Will keep looking but in the meantime there's these reports -


"Their names were on a list of either house robberies or child sexual abuse. But there was no suspicion of abuse by him, so it must have been for robbery that they knocked on that door."

Gonçalo Amaral - Discovery+ documentary


A source said ever since Christian B's "name was released by the German authorities, Amaral, along with many other senior Portuguese police officers, have insisted he is not the man who took Madeleine.

“They looked at him, ruled him out and believe focusing on him distracts from really finding out what may have happened to Madeleine.”

Maddie McCann suspect hopes disgraced cop will CLEAR him, says lawyer

MADELEINE McCann prime suspect Christian B is hoping the disgraced cop who led the probe into her disappearance will clear him. Goncalo Amaral has now met with the jailed German’s lawyer Frie…

www.thesun.co.uk

Portuguese police would not answer questions about whether Brueckner was ever spoken to as part of their initial investigation, but reports suggest a German paedophile was looked at and ruled out as a suspect in 2008.

Portuguese police face renewed scrutiny over German paedophile - Jersey Evening Post

Madeleine was abducted from a room on May 3 2007.

www.jerseyeveningpost.com

The investigation was re-opened in 2020 when the Portuguese Prosecutor’s Office received evidence pointing to Christian Brückner, a German who had been previously convicted of a rape in Algarve. Portuguese police had investigated and ruled out Brückner in 2007

Redirect Notice

So what happened when Maddie was allegedly snatched from the resort just five months after he had been let out of prison? Yes, you guessed it ... when a shortlist of 600 potential suspects was drawn up and handed to British police, Christian Brueckner was inexplicably NOT on it. Despite his track record of sex offences being made known locally to the courts and police at least twice, plus their apparent visit to Portimao Prison to find him, he was not considered a person of interest.

Jon Clarke: My search for Madeleine

When MM disappeared, I think the only conviction CB had was the offence in Germany when he was 17 so approximately 14 years beforehand. I am not sure he would have been on any sex offender’s list in Portugal.

However, I seem to recall it being raised during his trial for the diesel theft which was obviously just the year prior.

I could be wrong on the above, it’s just what I recall.

As we know what a monster CB is now, it seems ridiculous he wasn’t closely looked at at the time but if my recollections are correct it’s possible he wasn’t a likely suspect.

 

[misty48]

It came to my memory a picture of a toddler (crying or laughing) very like to MM, which was circulating in Internet at the time of the 2020 BKA appeal. What have happened with this?

It's still on Facebook on a page with the same name as CB.

 

[Deleted member 268165]

It's still on Facebook on a page with the same name as CB.

I found the FB page, thanks @misty48. And the year of upload of the picture is 2011. I think is an ugly fake ...

 

[misty48]

I found the FB page, thanks @misty48. And the year of upload of the picture is 2011. I think is an ugly fake ...

It's a weird coincidence if the photo really was uploaded in 2011 but I think there are people around who can manipulate Facebook data.

 

[Malleux]

When MM disappeared, I think the only conviction CB had was the offence in Germany when he was 17 so approximately 14 years beforehand. I am not sure he would have been on any sex offender’s list in Portugal.

However, I seem to recall it being raised during his trial for the diesel theft which was obviously just the year prior.

I could be wrong on the above, it’s just what I recall.

As we know what a monster CB is now, it seems ridiculous he wasn’t closely looked at at the time but if my recollections are correct it’s possible he wasn’t a likely suspect.

He'd had offences for theft in Germany too by then plus the diesel theft in Portugal and the disobedience charge over his Jag registration plates there.

I get where you're coming from though. My query is how exactly CB ended up on the list of suspects in the first place. Amaral claims there was "no suspicion of abuse" by him and says "it must have been" for robbery that he was on that list ... but that doesn't make any sense. He said the list was based on child sex offenders and burglars.

CB has no convictions in Portugal for burglary and nicking some diesel surely wouldn't promote you as a suspect in such a case, Amaral specifically says the suspects picked out were house burglars. Amaral also claims there was "no suspicion of abuse" by CB yet we know the Portuguese authorities already knew there was a suspicion as they extradited him back to Germany in 1999 for the child sex offences from which he fled his sentence.

Amaral isn't being 100% truthful about the circumstances over the investigation into CB in 2007 IMO.

 

[Mex]

Trying to find a MSM source to give you an exact confirmation of his name being removed from the list but it's like searching a needle in a haystack among all the MM articles. Defintely seen it though. Will keep looking but in the meantime there's these reports -


"Their names were on a list of either house robberies or child sexual abuse. But there was no suspicion of abuse by him, so it must have been for robbery that they knocked on that door."

Gonçalo Amaral - Discovery+ documentary


A source said ever since Christian B's "name was released by the German authorities, Amaral, along with many other senior Portuguese police officers, have insisted he is not the man who took Madeleine.

“They looked at him, ruled him out and believe focusing on him distracts from really finding out what may have happened to Madeleine.”

Maddie McCann suspect hopes disgraced cop will CLEAR him, says lawyer

MADELEINE McCann prime suspect Christian B is hoping the disgraced cop who led the probe into her disappearance will clear him. Goncalo Amaral has now met with the jailed German’s lawyer Frie…

www.thesun.co.uk

Portuguese police would not answer questions about whether Brueckner was ever spoken to as part of their initial investigation, but reports suggest a German paedophile was looked at and ruled out as a suspect in 2008.

Portuguese police face renewed scrutiny over German paedophile - Jersey Evening Post

Madeleine was abducted from a room on May 3 2007.

www.jerseyeveningpost.com

The investigation was re-opened in 2020 when the Portuguese Prosecutor’s Office received evidence pointing to Christian Brückner, a German who had been previously convicted of a rape in Algarve. Portuguese police had investigated and ruled out Brückner in 2007

Redirect Notice

So what happened when Maddie was allegedly snatched from the resort just five months after he had been let out of prison? Yes, you guessed it ... when a shortlist of 600 potential suspects was drawn up and handed to British police, Christian Brueckner was inexplicably NOT on it. Despite his track record of sex offences being made known locally to the courts and police at least twice, plus their apparent visit to Portimao Prison to find him, he was not considered a person of interest.

Jon Clarke: My search for Madeleine

It seems there may have been a concerted effort to cover up CB's involvement which has continued until very recently.

It doesn't bear thinking about but why the vehement defence as soon as his name was released into the public domain. This included misleading images released by GA in television interviews called for that purpose.

Gonçalo Amaral demolishes German investigation into Maddie's case: "He's the almost perfect suspect. It would only be perfect if he was dead."​

In an interview yesterday in the 'Journal of Eight', the former inspector of the Judicial Police who investigated Maddie's case, dismantled the theory of the German police that the German C B would have killed the girl.

June 22, 2020

To prove that something "does not fit" in this new investigation carried out by the German police, G A showed new images of the German's van in which several "graffiti" drawings were seen that personalized it. "Do you think such a vehicle went unnoticed?" he asked. "You have to know the reason why they altered the images of the campervan."

Gonçalo Amaral demolishes German investigation into Maddie's case: "He's the almost perfect suspect. It would only be perfect if it was dead" - Celebrities - FLASH!

 

[Malleux]

It seems there may have been a concerted effort to cover up CB's involvement which has continued until very recently.

It doesn't bear thinking about but why the vehement defence as soon as his name was released into the public domain. This included misleading images released by GA in television interviews called for that purpose.

Gonçalo Amaral demolishes German investigation into Maddie's case: "He's the almost perfect suspect. It would only be perfect if he was dead."​

In an interview yesterday in the 'Journal of Eight', the former inspector of the Judicial Police who investigated Maddie's case, dismantled the theory of the German police that the German C B would have killed the girl.

June 22, 2020

To prove that something "does not fit" in this new investigation carried out by the German police, G A showed new images of the German's van in which several "graffiti" drawings were seen that personalized it. "Do you think such a vehicle went unnoticed?" he asked. "You have to know the reason why they altered the images of the campervan."

Gonçalo Amaral demolishes German investigation into Maddie's case: "He's the almost perfect suspect. It would only be perfect if it was dead" - Celebrities - FLASH!

Well you can blame Tavares de Almeida for all that nonsense about the long hair and the graffiti van, it all came from him. A close friend of Amaral he may be, but the man is a convicted felon and a liar. Found guilty of physically torturing a suspect, after a 13 year long endeavour of the poor sod trying to get some justice, he's now seemingly decided to interject himself into this case with the aim of spreading misinformation for reasons we can only guess at.


From GA's book:
Between some nicely roasted and appetizing pieces of suckling pig, accompanied by a
white Murganheira, half dry and half fresh, we kept the conversation up to date. Like
me, Vítor Tavares de Almeida has been watching the development of the campaign
and, like me, says that there are things that raise doubts in his mind:
- they show photographs of a suspect, with the real image... that's fooling the
"papalvos";
- they could have found a photograph of the suspect... closer to the event; if he was
arrested in 2006, there is a photograph of him entering prison;
- What kind of investigators, they forget essential details ... they don't even know
where to look. Another forgotten detail... eh, eh;
- if that's all... the photos of the motorhome were manipulated; when it left Portugal
for Germany, it looked like this;

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Well you can blame Tavares de Almeida for all that nonsense about the long hair and the graffiti van, it all came from him. A close friend of Amaral he may be but the man is a convicted felon and a liar. Found guilty of physically torturing a suspect, after a 13 year long endeavour of the poor sod trying to get some justice, he's now seemingly decided to interject himself into this case with the aim of spreading misinformation for reasons we can only guess at.

Yes, perfect nonsense. Ridiculous. Secondhand embarrassment.