Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #34

[Trivento]

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There is mention of sightings in this article …although they get JW’s first name wrong ..

Why did Madeleine McCann cops waste years investigating GP sighting?

COPS spent four years trying to identify a man seen carrying a child on the night Madeleine McCann disappeared — despite a GP saying it was probably him. Julian Totman walked near the McCanns’ apar…

www.thesun.co.uk

Mentioned by Redplanet ..post 672 ..thread 17 .

 

[Trivento]

In thread 17 Redplanet and Dlk79 have a discussion about it and in post 675 there is a video clip…

 

[Pixie Child]

In thread 17 Redplanet and Dlk79 have a discussion about it and in post 675 there is a video clip…

Link for thread 17 page 34 & Dave Edgar reconstruction.

Who are the Cheshire couple who also saw the man surveilling the flat?

Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #17

I know this is a reach and probably doesn’t mean anything, but CB’s sketch that has been released looks like it has been drawn over a note/letter of some sort. It looks like there is writing on the other side which is peeping through the drawing. I’ve changed the contrast on my phone and it’s...

www.websleuths.com

 

[Trivento]

Link for thread 17 page 34

Who are the Cheshire couple?

Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #17

I know this is a reach and probably doesn’t mean anything, but CB’s sketch that has been released looks like it has been drawn over a note/letter of some sort. It looks like there is writing on the other side which is peeping through the drawing. I’ve changed the contrast on my phone and it’s...

www.websleuths.com

Believe that must be DF and partner whose sighting Janosch said could be disregarded...you'll have to ask him why that is ...

P.J. POLICE FILES: DEREK FLACK PHOTO FIT ID

 

[Pixie Child]

Believe that must be DF and partner whose sighting Janosch said could be disregarded...you'll have to ask him why that is ...

P.J. POLICE FILES: DEREK FLACK PHOTO FIT ID

I think Janosch thinks that DF saw an OC employee (SBG).

P.J. POLICE FILES: DEREK FLACK PHOTO FIT ID

 

[Deleted member 268165]

I think Janosch thinks that DF saw an OC employee (SBG).

P.J. POLICE FILES: DEREK FLACK PHOTO FIT ID

Yes, because I sent the DF e-fit and the passport photo of SBG to OG days before the 2013 appeal. And then the e-fit did not appear in the 2013 appeal and they showed e-fit1, e-fit2, and e-fit4 (e-fit3 missed).

SBG photo:

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P4/04_VOLUME_IVa_Page_866.jpg

That's all I know.

 

[Trivento]

Yes, because I sent the DF e-fit and the passport photo of SBG to OG days before the 2013 appeal. And then the e-fit did not appear in the 2013 appeal and they showed e-fit1, e-fit2, and e-fit4 (e-fit3 missed).

SBG photo:

View attachment 423364

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P4/04_VOLUME_IVa_Page_866.jpg

That's all I know.

So there is still a chance the DF sighting could be someone other than SBG , who just looked a bit like SBG ?

 

[Deleted member 268165]

So there is still a chance the DF sighting could be someone other than SBG , who just looked a bit like SBG ?

It is possible, but I think OG have discarded the sighting after quizzing SBG (if they quizzed him). IMO.

 

[Pixie Child]

So there is still a chance the DF sighting could be someone other than SBG , who just looked a bit like SBG ?

He does closely resemble the efit but I’m surprised that his height wasn’t mentioned- from his SM pics, he looks tall.

 

[Mex]

Yes, the data was requested early on in the investigation.

P.J. POLICE FILES: MOBILE PHONE ANALYSIS TAPAS TELEPHONE TRAFFIC

I don't see any evidence that there was a general search apart from a check on reception and police station. Other than that, all I see are enquiries into the individuals later constituted arguidos and their friends.

We now know that the police had been showing CB's photograph to witnesses. What happened to that line of inquiry.

 

[Trivento]

He does closely resemble the efit but I’m surprised that his height wasn’t mentioned- from his SM pics, he looks tall.

P.J. POLICE FILES: DEREK FLACK PHOTO FIT ID

In DF statement , he says the man he saw was about 1.70m , that’s only about 5ft 7in …not a tall man .

 

[Lilly b]

Here a link, for a good timeline of things that had gone on in the earlier days

Madeleine McCann – Portugal – 2007

Maddie how she may look now – Photo Regressed to age 9 Madeleine McCann disappeared on the evening of Thursday, 3 May 2007. She was on holiday with her parents and twin siblings in the Algarv…

uk-database.org

 

[Lilly b]

P.J. POLICE FILES: DEREK FLACK PHOTO FIT ID

In DF statement , he says the man he saw was about 1.70m , that’s only about 5ft 7in …not a tall man .

How tall is SM ?

 

[Trivento]

How tall is SM ?

I don't know..maybe someone else does ?

 

[Malleux]

I found the following snippet from Reuters of interest given recent discussion of knowledge and awareness of CB in the investigation.
The judicial police claim to have passed the name to the Brits in 2012. One wonders was that it? Or did they add context?

Taken from Reuter's article
For the first time since 2007 Portuguese prosecutors in Faro identified an official suspect in the MM investigation. The prosecutors did not clarify their reasons but said that the investigation has been carried out with cooperation from British and German authorities.

CB lived in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007 and burgled hotels and holiday flats etc, information verified by Reuters who had sight of court documents in 2020.

They also reported that “Portugal's Judiciary Police handed over documents with hundreds of names related to Madeleine's case, including CB to British authorities in 2012, according to the force.”

Portuguese prosecutors say man named formal suspect in McCann case

Portuguese prosecutors said on Thursday a man had been formally identified as a suspect in the disappearance of British toddler Madeleine McCann 15 years ago.

www.reuters.com

Yes I'm aware of that. The report stems from the claims of PJ deputy director Carlos Farinha who alluded to the fact SY have known about CB since 2012 during an interview with Lusa back in 2020.

There's still no clarity tho IMO of exactly what intel was passed from Portugal to SY about CB and what investigations they had conducted back then.

 

[Malleux]

And.. Just to touch on the subject of CB's ever expanding portfolio of legal representatives, I think it should be made clear that there are many restrictions on what costs can be claimed from the state and under what circumstances.

We are told CB has been represented since 2020 by Friedrich Fulscher... and Johann Schwenn... two of the best defence lawyers in the country (they really are) plus now...a recent name added in 2023 in Phillip Marquot. FF also claims there is a team of UK lawyers being contracted with one of their main roles being to review the media coverage around CB...and yet the man had no pennies...amazing stuff!

The point is...whomever is bankrolling all this, we can be 100% sure it is not the German state!



Legal aid is available for legal proceedings before the following courts:

• Administrative court ("Verwaltungsgericht"): That is, for instance, if you want to complain about the BAMF's rejection of your asylum request.

• Civil court ("Zivilgericht"): That is where you go, for instance, when you need to resolve a dispute with a neighbour in court.

• Labor court ("Arbeitsgericht"): That is where you can complain against an employer who fired you.

• Social court ("Sozialgericht"): That is where you can, for instance, take legal actions against the decision to cut your welfare benefits.

Please note: If you are charged with a crime, you cannot receive legal aid. But if you do not have enough money, the state will pay for your lawyer. You cannot, however, choose a lawyer yourself-- the court will pick a lawyer for you.

Legal Aid

Can I get financial help for legal proceedings when I go to court? Which costs does legal aid cover? Do I have to pay it back?

handbookgermany.de

In Germany, a distinction is made between advisory assistance and legal aid (see question 2 above).

Advisory assistance (covering advice and, if necessary, representation) is granted in civil-law matters, including employment law, administrative law, constitutional law and social law. Only advice is given in matters of criminal law and administrative offences law.

Legal aid | European e-Justice Portal

e-justice.europa.eu

Law on legal advice and representation for low-income citizens (Counseling Assistance Act - BerHG)
§ 2 Object of the counseling assistance

(1) The advisory assistance consists of advice and, if necessary, representation. Representation is required when, after counseling, litigants are unable to exercise their rights themselves because of the scope, difficulty or importance the legal matter has for them.

(2) Advisory assistance under this Act is granted in all legal matters. In matters of criminal law and the law on administrative offenses, only advice is provided.

§ 2 BerHG - Einzelnorm

In other words, you can't go cherry pick the best lawyers in the land to come represent you and even moreso when you haven't even been charged with anything yet...

To get such lawyers representing you doesn't happen through a lottery. It's either a big Pro Bono deal (which the defence would normally advertise to their advantage)... or some 'body' is playing the fiddle in the background....

JMO.


When asked who was funding Brueckner’s representation, Mr Fuelscher replied: “I’m afraid I cannot answer that question.”

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner using British lawyers for defence

EXCLUSIVE: It remains unclear who is paying the fees to retain 43-year-old Christian Brueckner's team of British lawyers as he has no source of income

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[enquirer6]

And.. Just to touch on the subject of CB's ever expanding portfolio of legal representatives, I think it should be made clear that there are many restrictions on what costs can be claimed from the state and under what circumstances.

We are told CB has been represented since 2020 by Friedrich Fulscher... and Johann Schwenn... two of the best defence lawyers in the country (they really are) plus now...a recent name added in 2023 in Phillip Marquot. FF also claims there is a team of UK lawyers being contracted with one of their main roles being to review the media coverage around CB...and yet the man had no pennies...amazing stuff!

The point is...whomever is bankrolling all this, we can be 100% sure it is not the German state!



Legal aid is available for legal proceedings before the following courts:

• Administrative court ("Verwaltungsgericht"): That is, for instance, if you want to complain about the BAMF's rejection of your asylum request.

• Civil court ("Zivilgericht"): That is where you go, for instance, when you need to resolve a dispute with a neighbour in court.

• Labor court ("Arbeitsgericht"): That is where you can complain against an employer who fired you.

• Social court ("Sozialgericht"): That is where you can, for instance, take legal actions against the decision to cut your welfare benefits.

Please note: If you are charged with a crime, you cannot receive legal aid. But if you do not have enough money, the state will pay for your lawyer. You cannot, however, choose a lawyer yourself-- the court will pick a lawyer for you.

Legal Aid

Can I get financial help for legal proceedings when I go to court? Which costs does legal aid cover? Do I have to pay it back?

handbookgermany.de

In Germany, a distinction is made between advisory assistance and legal aid (see question 2 above).

Advisory assistance (covering advice and, if necessary, representation) is granted in civil-law matters, including employment law, administrative law, constitutional law and social law. Only advice is given in matters of criminal law and administrative offences law.

Legal aid | European e-Justice Portal

e-justice.europa.eu

Law on legal advice and representation for low-income citizens (Counseling Assistance Act - BerHG)
§ 2 Object of the counseling assistance

(1) The advisory assistance consists of advice and, if necessary, representation. Representation is required when, after counseling, litigants are unable to exercise their rights themselves because of the scope, difficulty or importance the legal matter has for them.

(2) Advisory assistance under this Act is granted in all legal matters. In matters of criminal law and the law on administrative offenses, only advice is provided.

§ 2 BerHG - Einzelnorm

In other words, you can't go cherry pick the best lawyers in the land to come represent you and even moreso when you haven't even been charged with anything yet...

To get such lawyers representing you doesn't happen through a lottery. It's either a big Pro Bono deal (which the defence would normally advertise to their advantage)... or some 'body' is playing the fiddle in the background....

JMO.


When asked who was funding Brueckner’s representation, Mr Fuelscher replied: “I’m afraid I cannot answer that question.”

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner using British lawyers for defence

EXCLUSIVE: It remains unclear who is paying the fees to retain 43-year-old Christian Brueckner's team of British lawyers as he has no source of income

www.mirror.co.uk

Amaral?

Is he bankrolling all this with his ill-gotten gains from that book?

 

[Deleted member 268165]

And.. Just to touch on the subject of CB's ever expanding portfolio of legal representatives, I think it should be made clear that there are many restrictions on what costs can be claimed from the state and under what circumstances.

We are told CB has been represented since 2020 by Friedrich Fulscher... and Johann Schwenn... two of the best defence lawyers in the country (they really are) plus now...a recent name added in 2023 in Phillip Marquot. FF also claims there is a team of UK lawyers being contracted with one of their main roles being to review the media coverage around CB...and yet the man had no pennies...amazing stuff!

The point is...whomever is bankrolling all this, we can be 100% sure it is not the German state!



Legal aid is available for legal proceedings before the following courts:

• Administrative court ("Verwaltungsgericht"): That is, for instance, if you want to complain about the BAMF's rejection of your asylum request.

• Civil court ("Zivilgericht"): That is where you go, for instance, when you need to resolve a dispute with a neighbour in court.

• Labor court ("Arbeitsgericht"): That is where you can complain against an employer who fired you.

• Social court ("Sozialgericht"): That is where you can, for instance, take legal actions against the decision to cut your welfare benefits.

Please note: If you are charged with a crime, you cannot receive legal aid. But if you do not have enough money, the state will pay for your lawyer. You cannot, however, choose a lawyer yourself-- the court will pick a lawyer for you.

Legal Aid

Can I get financial help for legal proceedings when I go to court? Which costs does legal aid cover? Do I have to pay it back?

handbookgermany.de

In Germany, a distinction is made between advisory assistance and legal aid (see question 2 above).

Advisory assistance (covering advice and, if necessary, representation) is granted in civil-law matters, including employment law, administrative law, constitutional law and social law. Only advice is given in matters of criminal law and administrative offences law.

Legal aid | European e-Justice Portal

e-justice.europa.eu

Law on legal advice and representation for low-income citizens (Counseling Assistance Act - BerHG)
§ 2 Object of the counseling assistance

(1) The advisory assistance consists of advice and, if necessary, representation. Representation is required when, after counseling, litigants are unable to exercise their rights themselves because of the scope, difficulty or importance the legal matter has for them.

(2) Advisory assistance under this Act is granted in all legal matters. In matters of criminal law and the law on administrative offenses, only advice is provided.

§ 2 BerHG - Einzelnorm

In other words, you can't go cherry pick the best lawyers in the land to come represent you and even moreso when you haven't even been charged with anything yet...

To get such lawyers representing you doesn't happen through a lottery. It's either a big Pro Bono deal (which the defence would normally advertise to their advantage)... or some 'body' is playing the fiddle in the background....

JMO.


When asked who was funding Brueckner’s representation, Mr Fuelscher replied: “I’m afraid I cannot answer that question.”

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner using British lawyers for defence

EXCLUSIVE: It remains unclear who is paying the fees to retain 43-year-old Christian Brueckner's team of British lawyers as he has no source of income

www.mirror.co.uk

In this type of high media profile cases, lawyers may work for free advertising.

 

[Malleux]

In this type of high media profile cases, lawyers may work for free advertising.

That is a possibility I admit. But Fulscher and Schwenn are hardly in need of advertising, they're two of the most in-demand defence lawyers in the country. If anything, putting their names to this case carries quite a risk that they don't really need to take. Also, FF said he cannot divulge who is paying for their services when he could have just as easily have said he was working Pro bono and avoid any futher media speculation over it.

 

[Mex]

In this type of high media profile cases, lawyers may work for free advertising.

According to the information supplied in Malleux's post I don't think anyone in CB's legal team require any advertising eithe pro bono or at the going rate.

All they have to do is win the case by hook or by crook.

And they have done a magnificent job so far in keeping five current cases out of the system for many months.

My opinion - there is powerful and big money being represented here. Probably the same money which has spent sixteen vindictive years maligning MM's parents.

The whistle blowers who have shed new light on the case might be petty criminals, but I think very brave people.