Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #34

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  • #521
I am giving a glance at the GA's book NML.
Did he say that NL and JT were lying in their statements?
But I remember that NL statement led to the identification of a Renault car, and from there to the identification of the Polish WK.
What am I missing?
It was unfortunate that WK resembled Tannerman. I suspect Amaral et al were annoyed to have been diverted. Perhaps Amaral felt NL had exaggerated his suspicions but NL at the time felt concerned enough to take photos of the vehicle.

The photos taken on Sagres beach by WK seems to have coincided with a witness incorrectly claiming to have seen the McCanns at Sagres. When WK was found at an apartment in Burgau, this then got caught up with RM’s relatives and a hair from the maternal line of JT.

It’s difficult to know if the PJ were confused or just putting out disinfo to the media. Perhaps both!
 
  • #522
I am giving a glance at the GA's book NML.
Did he say that NL and JT were lying in their statements?
But I remember that NL statement led to the identification of a Renault car, and from there to the identification of the Polish WK.
What am I missing?
On the Jane Tanner statement, or at least the version of it online, we have, I think, confirmation that the statements online have, indeed, been corrupted.

Of course, we must never forget that the statements were uploaded by Duarte Levy, of virulent anti-McCann persuasion, who ought not to have been allowed near them. Tellingly, despite promising/threatening to, Levy has never uploaded the videos, just texts of the interviews, together with still-photographs of the interviewees, raising the question of whether the texts, online, are true to the originals, or whether they have been altered/tampered with.

As we know, there actually was controversy about whether Jane Tanner, at a point before Kate had raised the alarm that Madeleine was missing, could have walked past Gerry, locked in earnest conversation with Jez Wilkins, without either of the men noticing Jane. As we also know, the point matters because, moments later, Jane witnessed a man carrying a child who, in hindsight and retropsect, might have been Madeleine's abductor. Of course, ever since, McCann accusers have gone all-out to try to discredit Jane.

Was a part of that campaign manipulation of Jane's online statement, or at least the version of it online?

According to it, the version of Jane's statement online, Jane, asked about something unconnected, veers into a lengthy non-sequitur about her footwear, fliplops, how they were killing her feet, how she could barely walk in them, how she was rocking and swaying like a rowingboat in a force 10 gale.

The upshot of all that was this, a video I will add in an edit:

 
  • #523
On the Jane Tanner statement, or at least the version of it online, we have, I think, confirmation that the statements online have, indeed, been corrupted.

Of course, we must never forget that the statements were uploaded by Duarte Levy, of virulent anti-McCann persuasion, who ought not to have been allowed near them. Tellingly, despite promising/threatening to, Levy has never uploaded the videos, just texts of the interviews, together with still-photographs of the interviewees, raising the question of whether the texts, online, are true to the originals, or whether they have been altered/tampered with.

As we know, there actually was controversy about whether Jane Tanner, at a point before Kate had raised the alarm that Madeleine was missing, could have walked past Gerry, locked in earnest conversation with Jez Wilkins, without either of the men noticing Jane. As we also know, the point matters because, moments later, Jane witnessed a man carrying a child who, in hindsight and retropsect, might have been Madeleine's abductor. Of course, ever since, McCann accusers have gone all-out to try to discredit Jane.

Was a part of that campaign manipulation of Jane's online statement, or at least the version of it online?

According to it, the version of Jane's statement online, Jane, asked about something unconnected, veers into a lengthy non-sequitur about her footwear, fliplops, how they were killing her feet, how she could barely walk in them, how she was rocking and swaying like a rowingboat in a force 10 gale.

The upshot of all that was this, a video I will add in an edit:

I am of the opinion that JT did not see Tannerman at 21:20 but at 21:50. And the S's saw the same man and child at 22:05
 
  • #524
Was it 21.50 when she went to 'relieve' Russell ?
 
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  • #526
I am of the opinion that JT did not see Tannerman at 21:20 but at 21:50. And the S's saw the same man and child at 22:05
Tannerman was walking east to west north of 5A. Smithman was walking southeast of 5A 4 mins away.

I’m sure you’ve thought about this but why would an abductor take such an illogical route carrying a stolen child? And why would there be such a time difference? JT says she walked past GM and JW so two people corroborating the time as 9:20pm.

IMO, CB could be a match for Smithman but I think it’s a stretch to make him fit the description for Tannerman.
 
  • #527
According to the information supplied in Malleux's post I don't think anyone in CB's legal team require any advertising eithe pro bono or at the going rate.

All they have to do is win the case by hook or by crook.

And they have done a magnificent job so far in keeping five current cases out of the system for many months.

My opinion - there is powerful and big money being represented here. Probably the same money which has spent sixteen vindictive years maligning MM's parents.

The whistle blowers who have shed new light on the case might be petty criminals, but I think very brave people.
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There has been big money and power involved in the case from very early on but this has been almost entirely on the side of the McCanns.
 
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  • #529
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There has been big money and power involved in the case from very early on but this has been almost entirely on the side of the McCanns.

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Just because there are those who think that property prices would plummet should CB ever start parking his camper van in their area, doesn’t mean that he should not be entitled to legal representation and if he can afford it, the highest paid criminal lawyers in the land.

We have learned from recent informative posts on the matter that the German State will ensure that whatever heinous crimes are suspected, legal representation will be provided for those who need it. Can one be blamed for curiosity that CB who allegedly has no money, is being represented by top notch teams of high powered lawyers.

In the intervening period the lawyer FF who refused to say whether or not he was acting pro bono on CB’s behalf opened a can of worms about exactly who is footing the bill.

Forgive me for pointing out that the final sentence of your post reiterates one of the conspiracy theories prevalent over the years in tune with the “controlling the media” myth.
It is not a myth that someone somewhere is paying a lot of money to stop five criminal charges undergoing due process. You may not be interested in following the money to find out who the banker may be, but others are.
 
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  • #531
re funding of lawyers, is there a Dark Web version of crowd funding ?
 
  • #532
I am of the opinion that JT did not see Tannerman at 21:20 but at 21:50. And the S's saw the same man and child at 22:05
OG dismissed the Tanner sighting not because of a time but because they identified some one who was in that area at that same time(Redwood), so are you therefore suggesting that OG were completely off on the times provided.
 
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  • #534
My opinion - there is powerful and big money being represented here. Probably the same money which has spent sixteen vindictive years maligning MM's parents.
Steady, Mex. Dr Evil won't be happy if you reveal his involvement.
 
  • #535
Re the sighting.

Detectives from the Met now believe that a man with dark collar-length hair seen carrying a pyjama-clad child almost outside the McCann family's apartment in Praia da Luz, southern Portugal, at about 9.15pm on 3 May 2007 was in fact an innocent British holidaymaker returning his own child from a night creche.
 
  • #536
Re the sighting.

Detectives from the Met now believe that a man with dark collar-length hair seen carrying a pyjama-clad child almost outside the McCann family's apartment in Praia da Luz, southern Portugal, at about 9.15pm on 3 May 2007 was in fact an innocent British holidaymaker returning his own child from a night creche.
Tanner has never disputed this in public, so must accept that she was wrong.
It must have been a great relief to her to learn that she had not seen an abductor.
 
  • #537
Tanner has never disputed this in public, so must accept that she was wrong.
It must have been a great relief to her to learn that she had not seen an abductor.
I'm trying to work out how Janosch moves it to circa 9-50.
 
  • #538
re funding of lawyers, is there a Dark Web version of crowd funding ?
If there were, since the dark web is hidden, most people wouldn't know about it.
 
  • #539
Re the sighting.

Detectives from the Met now believe that a man with dark collar-length hair seen carrying a pyjama-clad child almost outside the McCann family's apartment in Praia da Luz, southern Portugal, at about 9.15pm on 3 May 2007 was in fact an innocent British holidaymaker returning his own child from a night creche.
Jane reported, in good faith, what she saw. It is for detectives, investigating Madeleine's abduction, to make of that report what they will.
 
  • #540
I'm trying to work out how Janosch moves it to circa 9-50.
Only if Tanner's sighting was at 9.50 ish can it be realistically linked to the Smith sighting.
This pre- supposes that there actually was an abduction at around that time.
 
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