Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #37

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  • #801
More from Bild:

“"The testimony of the witness raises a lot of questions that reinforce me in the assumption that these videos are fictitious," says Kiel star lawyer Dr. Friedrich Fülscher (39). "First of all, there are constancy breaks to previous statements. On the other hand, there are also considerable contradictions to statements by the witness Manfred S. According to the court that condemned Mr. Brückner, he is said to have seen other sequences than Helge B. According to the current description of Helge B., this would not be possible in fact."

I wonder how he explains the fact that a hair of his client was found in the rape victim's bed - without the "fictitious" video evidence his client would most likely never have been matched to the hair. Just a massive coincidence or does he believe that the Germans are out to frame him for this crime by planting evidence?
 
  • #802
I wonder how he explains the fact that a hair of his client was found in the rape victim's bed - without the "fictitious" video evidence his client would most likely never have been matched to the hair. Just a massive coincidence or does he believe that the Germans are out to frame him for this crime by planting evidence?
Like any other lawyer he'll probably think it doesn't require deliberate planting/tampering, mistakes can be made - and are made - unintentionally. In one of the interviews he says many other forensic tests were done and none of those showed a link to CB.

He's a lawyer, you wouldn't expect him to just sit back, sigh and say "ok, it's a fair cop" would you.
 
  • #803
The woke and wandered theory was considered along with all others, but in the link provided it seems the burglary/abduction theory was the one still being worked.
Maybe but the guy who's now Met head bod is easily wise enough to know the other theory still can't be categorically ruled out.
 
  • #804
Like any other lawyer he'll probably think it doesn't require deliberate planting/tampering, mistakes can be made - and are made - unintentionally. In one of the interviews he says many other forensic tests were done and none of those showed a link to CB.

He's a lawyer, you wouldn't expect him to just sit back, sigh and say "ok, it's a fair cop" would you.
Is he appealing the rape conviction then?
 
  • #805
Like any other lawyer he'll probably think it doesn't require deliberate planting/tampering, mistakes can be made - and are made - unintentionally. In one of the interviews he says many other forensic tests were done and none of those showed a link to CB.

He's a lawyer, you wouldn't expect him to just sit back, sigh and say "ok, it's a fair cop" would you.
I'm surprised they didn't try to pass it off as a bit of consensual rough sex with roleplay. That would have nicely explained any hairs and the filming, though wouldn't work if CB denied ever being there.
 
  • #806
Is he appealing the rape conviction then?
Would sound a bit late in the day for that.
His initial appeal was a jurisdiction thing over being extradited for a different crime.
 
  • #807
Would sound a bit late in the day for that.
His initial appeal was a jurisdiction thing over being extradited for a different crime.
Strange he wouldn’t appeal the conviction based on his opinion that the evidence against his client had been mistakenly attributed to him then, rather than a jurisdiction technicality. In any case it’s never too late to appeal a conviction if you can make a case that there has been police mishandling of dna evidence, but I guess that would have been difficult to do as his client had already given an lame excuse for how the hair got in the bed.
 
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Which brings us back to the rather massive coincidence of CB’s hair being found in the rape victim’s bed if these rape videos were simply pure invention.
 
  • #809
Which brings us back to the rather massive coincidence of CB’s hair being found in the rape victim’s bed if these rape videos were simply pure invention.
Yes, that would depend on the validity of the hair, which we will never know for sure.
We can only trust that the police were playing this with a straight bat.

I'd have gone for a claim of consensual sex, myself.
 
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Yes, that would depend on the validity of the hair, which we will never know for sure.
We can only trust that the police were playing this with a straight bat.

I'd have gone for a claim of consensual sex, myself.
She gave evidence didn't she? Via videolink?

Not even Kavanagh QC could have saved his client in that case imo
 
  • #811
She gave evidence didn't she? Via videolink?

Not even Kavanagh QC could have saved his client in that case imo
Yes, but played right it could have been a case of he said, she said, which is what many rape cases come down to.
 
  • #812
Yes, but played right it could have been a case of he said, she said, which is what many rape cases come down to.

Played right ? DM was a 72 year attacked and tortured in her own home , the PJ thankfully took photos of her injuries and the blanket CB fitted over her curtains to make sure no one could see in.
 
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Yes, that would depend on the validity of the hair, which we will never know for sure.
We can only trust that the police were playing this with a straight bat.

I'd have gone for a claim of consensual sex, myself.
Hard to argue it was consensual when the only reason CB was even accused was because his two ex mates claimed to have seen rapes on a video which bore a close resemblance to the claims of the American rape victim - again, what another massive coincidence that would have been.
 
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Hard to argue it was consensual when the only reason CB was even accused was because his two ex mates claimed to have seen rapes on a video which bore a close resemblance to the claims of the American rape victim - again, what another massive coincidence that would have been.
I didn't say he would have won.
 
  • #815
Yes, that would depend on the validity of the hair, which we will never know for sure.
We can only trust that the police were playing this with a straight bat.

I'd have gone for a claim of consensual sex, myself.
His defence ‘It transferred when I petted her pussy’ made me smile. It probably sounded different in Portuguese or German.
 
  • #816
I didn't say he would have won.
I think FF would have been wise enough to realise that the evidence against his client meant an appeal was unlikely to be unsuccessful hence no appeal. Which yet again brings meback to my point about the credibility of the video evidence in the first place, ie it is highly unlikely to have been fabricated. IMO.
 
  • #817
Why would a woman engage in consensual sex then claim to be raped by an unknown stranger?
 
  • #818
Why would a woman engage in consensual sex then claim to be raped by an unknown stranger?
Do we know he was an unknown stranger ?
If he claimed to have an intimate acquaintance with her cat, he presumably had visited before.
 
  • #819
Do we know he was an unknown stranger ?
If he claimed to have an intimate acquaintance with her cat, he presumably had visited before.
If she’d known who he was wouldn’t she have informed the police when she reported the rape?
 
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I think FF would have been wise enough to realise that the evidence against his client meant an appeal was unlikely to be unsuccessful hence no appeal. Which yet again brings meback to my point about the credibility of the video evidence in the first place, ie it is highly unlikely to have been fabricated. IMO.
It'll be a national scandal if it ever turns out it was. The admissibility of such evidence gives me the shivers.
 
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