Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #40

[Denis R Tandib]

Yes. What means a case is "90% solved"? Is it possible?
Is it possible for a woman to be "90% pregnant"?

I means it remains unsolved. Describing it as “90% solved” shows biased thinking IMO. All we know is that there is a suspect in an unsolved crime and that’s the way it is until there is a conviction,

 

[onemoremiletogo]

I hope you appreciate that it’s possible to look at what HCW has said and come to the conclusion he has no images of MM. That is an equally rational conclusion to make.

Until CB goes to trial, we are left making the available information fit what we want to believe.

Based on what’s been shared, I don’t think the BKA’s case is strong. I think it’s largely built on HeB’s statement and is supported by other witness testimonies, some coincidental circumstantial evidence and perhaps CB’s autobiographical writings.

This is what the appeal, sensationalised media strategy, and flip-flopping on charging over three years tells me.

I hope there will be a trial so we can find out but I doubt very much that there will be.

HCW already said HeB is not crucial piece in the investigation.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I want justice for MM, remember her, I just don't think the answer is in a German jail, happy to be proved wrong.

IMO, this is the only rational position to have until we see evidence to the contrary. Anything else is conjecture.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

I means it remains unsolved. Describing it as “90% solved” shows biased thinking IMO. All we know is that there is a suspect in an unsolved crime and that’s the way it is until there is a conviction,

Biased?! IMO much closer to the end (in the sense of knowing he did it) than unsolved (still thinking other(s)?! did it but with no other clues or evidences pointing that way).

 

[Denis R Tandib]

HCW already said HeB is not crucial piece in the investigation.

So where would the case against CB be without HeB’s statement?

 

[onemoremiletogo]

So where would the case against CB be without HeB’s statement?

Really?! The chats...CB's client(s)...and what we don't know about what they have.

 

[RichardKimble]

So, not the question if they will charge or not, you really believe CB didn't do it...just for reference.

If CB is not charged then there is room for someone else to have done it what ever it is.

 

[Consider Dudley]

IMO, this is the only rational position to have until we see evidence to the contrary. Anything else is conjecture.

I don’t see what is rational about discounting CB as the likely perpetrator of the crime. On the contrary I think it is perfectly rational to think the police are on the right track.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

If CB is not charged then there is room for someone else to have done it what ever it is.

That's exactly here we are "opposite". I expect charges to come but even if not that will not make me believe that, "suddenly" it was not CB who did it. I believe in BKA's work, investigation, relevant evidence they say they have and no other option is and will be left open. Too much coincidences, CB ticking all boxes, etc. Well, I will not fall off my chair but I would be "shocked" to know if any other did it. But I really do not believe.

 

[Mex]

So where would the case against CB be without HeB’s statement?

All the police needed was a name.
They were given CB's'
The rest was up to good detective work which followed the evidence which spanned decades
My opinion.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Really?! The chats...CB's client(s)...and what we don't know about what they have.

The only chat we know of is from CB’s time in the kiosk, around 2014. From what I’ve read, IMO, it is not a confession nor does it relate to MM.

What clients? The only clients of CB I’m aware of would be buying weed from him. Please explain what you mean.

“… what we don’t know about what they have” is precisely my point. An opinion based on this is, by it’s very nature, pure conjecture.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

All the police needed was a name.
They were given CB's'
The rest was up to good detective work which followed the evidence which spanned decades
My opinion.

You don’t know what HeB shared in relation to MM. You don’t know what detective work has been done regarding MM; good, bad or indifferent. You don’t know what evidence they have in relation to MM.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

If CB is not charged then there is room for someone else to have done it what ever it is.

If CB is not convicted, there must be room for someone else to be responsible for MN’s disappearance.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I don’t see what is rational about discounting CB as the likely perpetrator of the crime. On the contrary I think it is perfectly rational to think the police are on the right track.

If you think it’s rational to form a conclusion based on unknown evidence, that’s up to you. I don’t think it is and will remain sceptical until I see or hear something that changes my mind.

So far, it can all be explained away as coincidences and empty words.

 

[Mex]

Theoretically no. If some evidence is missing, it would seem impossible to know how much is missing.

Whatever the case I doubt if everything about it is ever entirely known.
Particularly if the crime is murder and the victim isn't around to give their version of events.

As in MM's case the only 'truth' which will speak is the evidence surrounding it and left behind to be uncovered.
Much as SY investigators did when digging in Luz 2014 and German police did in CB's derelict property 2016. The only way the victim can speak is through investigators taking on the task of finding evidence, and collating it to enable indictment, trial and hopefully give an answer to what happened to MM.

That is what the German investigators are doing in MM's case and I doubt they are worrying about the evidence they do not have being more concerned about the quality of that which remains.
Which perhaps is a worry shared with the perpetrator of the crime.
My opinion

 

[onemoremiletogo]

The only chat we know of is from CB’s time in the kiosk, around 2014. From what I’ve read, IMO, it is not a confession nor does it relate to MM.

What clients? The only clients of CB I’m aware of would be buying weed from him. Please explain what you mean.

“… what we don’t know about what they have” is precisely my point. An opinion based on this is, by it’s very nature, pure conjecture.

In the chat, it is mentioned "mm". I think they have more than what was published.
Client e.g. panikspatz.
They are saying and repeating they have concrete material evidence. They don't deny photos. IMO more, more than conjecture. To not say pure...

 

[Mex]

You don’t know what HeB shared in relation to MM. You don’t know what detective work has been done regarding MM; good, bad or indifferent. You don’t know what evidence they have in relation to MM.

When I am stating a known fact I provide a relevant cite to support it.
When I am expressing an opinion, as protocol demands I state that it is "My opinion"

 

[Denis R Tandib]

In the chat, it is mentioned "mm". I think they have more than what was published.
Client e.g. panikspatz.
They are saying and repeating they have concrete material evidence. They don't deny photos. IMO more, more than conjecture. To not say pure...

For their sake, I hope they have more than a “mm” in a web chat.

In what way was Panikspatz a client?

Concrete and material in the German context means they have evidence. Web chats, witness statements, the Jag, the phone call all qualify for this.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Clea

When I am stating a known fact I provide a relevant cite to support it.
When I am expressing an opinion, as protocol demands I state that it is "My opinion"

Clear and understood.

 

[Mex]

HCW already said HeB is not crucial piece in the investigation.

I really don't think HeB is pivotal to the MM case.
He has given pointers and the police have followed them through to evidence and in DM's case proof of CB's sexually motivated violence.

HeB gave only descriptions of rapes and torture - nothing else. He had no idea of DM's identity or that of other victims, the police had to verify everything for themselves by finding the evidence supporting the description of the assaults.

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HeB told Bild that he had lost the videos from CB's apartment but has provided testimony to Scotland Yard, headquarters of the Metropolitan Police in London, detailing what is depicted in them

Madeleine McCann witness claims suspect in her kidnapping drunkenly confessed to crime

A German man with apparent information about Madeleine McCann's disappearance told a newspaper this week that suspect Christian Brueckner had confessed to kidnapping her.

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