Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #40

[Tekno]

No one asked " could you be more specific sir? "
I don't think for a minute anyway it occurred to him they could have been robbed .

I apologise. The first line of my post has no reference.

 

[frank-cole]

Using Tapas 9 own timeline...
Who was inside 5A or in Block 5 car park between 9.20pm & 9.30pm?
Ditto between 9.35pm & 9.45pm?
Ditto between 9.50pm & 10pm?
That doesn't even include the possibility that CB was already inside 5A by around 9pm. It doesn't explain why FF only made reference to one tiny window of opportunity which coincides temporally with GM check & JT sighting

I think that highlights that there were several windows of opportunity & nullifies the assumption that CB couldn’t be in the apartment at the same time as anybody else. It’s unlikely CB was in that apartment for more than a few minutes & it’s quite likely he was observing the groups pattern of behaviour. IMO FF would never bring this up in court. The prosecution would destroy that argument & the judges would see right through it. IMO it’ll be technicality squabbles & sowing doubt via a phantom accomplice

 

[RichardKimble]

IMO there’s a reason the investigators are certain MM died in Portugal. If there wasn’t then they wouldn’t be saying there was.

IMO presenting an assumption of the weakness of the case based on an interpretation of open source information & a perceived issue with those who who have all of the information & all of the evidence, probably isn’t going to be even remotely reflective of the reality of this case. I’d say the reality of the case is so clear cut that it isn’t actually a matter of opinion. If it was a matter of opinion the investigation wouldn’t be stating that they have facts.

I think it’s important to remember that the prosecution have actual evidence. There is zero evidence against anybody else.

The reason for certainty of death in Portugal could be the simple reason, that MM was never seen again outwith. Nothing points to her being anywhere else.

 

[frank-cole]

The reason for certainty of death in Portugal could be the simple reason, that MM was never seen again outwith. Nothing points to her being anywhere else.

IMO - incorrect assumption. MM could have been moved out of the country. The key message is that they know for sure that she wasn’t. it seems a matter of fact to the Germans. Their concrete evidence may have yielded these answers. Like you, I also think it’s likely she wasn’t move anywhere else. But regardless of our opinions, it’s worth noting that the Germans have actually facts.

 

[RichardKimble]

IMO - incorrect assumption. MM could have been moved out of the country. The key message is that they know for sure that she wasn’t. it seems a matter of fact to the Germans. Their concrete evidence may have yielded these answers. Like you, I also think it’s likely she wasn’t move anywhere else. But regardless of our opinions, it’s worth noting that the Germans have actually facts.

IMO MM was dead before the world knew her name, there never was a credible sighting, come to that there never was a credible sighting of an abductor unless one subscribes to the theory that OG totally cocked up and CB was tannerman.

 

[RichardKimble]

IMO - incorrect assumption. MM could have been moved out of the country. The key message is that they know for sure that she wasn’t. it seems a matter of fact to the Germans. Their concrete evidence may have yielded these answers. Like you, I also think it’s likely she wasn’t move anywhere else. But regardless of our opinions, it’s worth noting that the Germans have actually facts.

Facts that aren't pointing to proof imo.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

IMO there’s a reason the investigators are certain MM died in Portugal. If there wasn’t then they wouldn’t be saying there was.

IMO presenting an assumption of the weakness of the case based on an interpretation of open source information & a perceived issue with those who who have all of the information & all of the evidence, probably isn’t going to be even remotely reflective of the reality of this case. I’d say the reality of the case is so clear cut that it isn’t actually a matter of opinion. If it was a matter of opinion the investigation wouldn’t be stating that they have facts.

I think it’s important to remember that the prosecution have actual evidence. There is zero evidence against anybody else.

Thanks. Well written, as always. Totally aligned with what you refer here. So obvious.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

I think that highlights that there were several windows of opportunity & nullifies the assumption that CB couldn’t be in the apartment at the same time as anybody else. It’s unlikely CB was in that apartment for more than a few minutes & it’s quite likely he was observing the groups pattern of behaviour. IMO FF would never bring this up in court. The prosecution would destroy that argument & the judges would see right through it. IMO it’ll be technicality squabbles & sowing doubt via a phantom accomplice

IMO, if they go to court, FF will not even attempt the ridiculous of this innocuous exercise.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

The reason for certainty of death in Portugal could be the simple reason, that MM was never seen again outwith. Nothing points to her being anywhere else.

Honestly, do you really think this would lead BKA to be "certain" MM died in Portugal?!
Can't imagine we know everything they have.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

IMO MM was dead before the world knew her name, there never was a credible sighting, come to that there never was a credible sighting of an abductor unless one subscribes to the theory that OG totally cocked up and CB was tannerman.

You are going even beyond...So, not CB and likely no abductor?! Are you really writing this?
Here, for record the record! In its double meaning.
IMO so so unrealistic to not say "worse".

 

[onemoremiletogo]

CB said he never returned to Luz after being in jail till end of 2006.

CB seems a man of his word...since he should have lied during bar confession and other confessions about MM, here he should have lied too...

 

[RichardKimble]

You are going even beyond...So, not CB and likely no abductor?! Are you really writing this?
Here, for record the record! In its double meaning.
IMO so so unrealistic to not say "worse".

Two children were seen being carried around Luz, three if you count the one Redwood referred to, only one according to Redwood matched a description close to that of MM, which of the three males matched a description close to that of CB ? and what redeeming features convince anyone that CB was one of the males?

 

[Mex]

IMO MM was dead before the world knew her name, there never was a credible sighting, come to that there never was a credible sighting of an abductor unless one subscribes to the theory that OG totally cocked up and CB was tannerman.

If a large TV is stolen and a man is seen carrying a TV away, yards from the crime scene there is a certain deduction which can be made.

• the man seen carrying the TV either entered the property and removed it - or an accomplice within the property passed the TV out to him leaving him to exit the scene carrying the TV

Similarly if a child is stolen and a man is seen carrying a child away, yards from the crime scene an obvious connection springs to mind.

• the man seen carrying the child either entered the property and removed her - or an accomplice within the property passed the child out to him leaving him to exit the scene carrying the child.

CB was never interviewed regarding the disappearance of MM by Portuguese police although he was on their radar and they did make the attempt to do so.

Portuguese police tried to quiz MM suspect CB after she vanished - but he was not at home when they visited and it is unknown if they tried again ​

Portuguese detectives showed up to question prime suspect CB soon after MM's disappearance, but he wasn't in when they arrived.

Cops tried to quiz Maddie suspect Brueckner after she vanished

Disgraced former chief Goncalo Amaral, 60, who led the investigation in 2007, made the claim about Christian Brueckner (pictured) on Portuguese TV on Sunday night.

www.dailymail.co.uk

CB was definitely worth a second look either to be eliminated from the inquiry along with the other sex offenders whose names were known or to be probed further.
He obviously had what the holiday party lacked with an intimate knowledge of the area and his own transportation.
Shame we probably will never know if the first abortive attempt at speaking to him was ever followed up.

Snip
The suspect in the MM case “repeatedly worked” at the resort from which she disappeared, according to a new documentary.

German paedophile CB was said to have carried out repair work at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz before the three-year-old vanished from there in 2007.

Evidence gathered for a documentary by SAT.1, a German channel, showed CB was “very familiar” with the Portuguese resort and surrounding area.

Makers of the programme have shared their findings with the police.

SAT.1 said it had also seen chat logs from 2013 in which Brueckner shared paedophilic fantasies. He is said to have written: “Capture something small and use it for days, that's what to do.”

CB is currently in jail in Germany for raping an elderly woman in the Algarve in 2005.

Madeleine McCann suspect ‘repeatedly worked at resort where she vanished’

Christian Brueckner said to have carried out repair work at Algarve holiday site

www.independent.co.uk

 

[RichardKimble]

You are going even beyond...So, not CB and likely no abductor?! Are you really writing this?
Here, for record the record! In its double meaning.
IMO so so unrealistic to not say "worse".

BIB ,There is no record, this is not a court room nor an interview under caution its a place to exchange thoughts and ideas.

 

[misty48]

I wonder why CB, if he's the perp, would have chosen Ocean Club to carry out a child abduction when the risk of being seen & recognised by a former fellow employee would have been elevated in comparison to a resort where he was unknown? He didn't have CCTV to worry about.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

Two children were seen being carried around Luz, three if you count the one Redwood referred to, only one according to Redwood matched a description close to that of MM, which of the three males matched a description close to that of CB ? and what redeeming features convince anyone that CB was one of the males?

Does he have to have been clearly seen and matched?! Believing in descriptions at night?! >>> BKA investigation and BKA affirmation?!

 

[onemoremiletogo]

I wonder why CB, if he's the perp, would have chosen Ocean Club to carry out a child abduction when the risk of being seen & recognised by a former fellow employee would have been elevated in comparison to a resort where he was unknown? He didn't have CCTV to worry about.

Less risk with the unknown?! With any surprise we couldn't control?! In PdL/OC he knew all so well (also the police (in)action) and maybe even for so long. Too easy I think.

 

[RichardKimble]

Does he have to have been clearly seen and matched?! Believing in descriptions at night?! >>> BKA investigation and BKA affirmation?!

The BKA wanted to know of his movements between 9 and 10pm so yes he needed to be seen.

 

[onemoremiletogo]

The BKA wanted to know of his movements between 9 and 10pm so yes he needed to be seen.

“Was I or my vehicle clearly seen near the crime scene on the night of the crime?"
Really matched by description?! At night?!
Maybe unlikely but...
A neighbour who went into Brueckner's isolated house overlooking Praia da Luz said she found it was filthy and full of bags of wigs...

 

[misty48]

Less risk with the unknown?! With any surprise we couldn't control?! In OC we knew all so well (also the police (in)action) and maybe even for so long. Too easy I think.

Judging by the quantity of stolen goods and passports allegedly seen/found at his former homes in Luz and Monte Judeu it's highly unlikely that Ocean Club resort was the only one he was familiar with.