Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #41

[frank-cole]

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[Davieson]

Correct. But if the likelihood of finding fibres was zero they wouldn’t be trying to find fibres.

Have police said they are looking for fibres, or is that just media speculation ?

 

[C.greek]

JC claims one thing but another refuted it.

Around two years ago, a dam about 45 minutes from here was searched, but nothing was found.

Madeleine McCann: New search under way brings fresh hope - but there are big unanswered questions

The sparsely-populated land being searched is used by dog walkers and hikers - and is only a mile or so from where Madeleine McCann was last seen.

news.sky.com

Okay so what the BKA had said was that they would inform the public after the search if nothing was found. This never happened!

 

[C.greek]

Have police said they are looking for fibres, or is that just media speculation ?

Media speculation imo. They have georadars to scan the ground, these would not locate fibers. Imo they are searching for a body (or another stash of disks, photos, etc?)

 

[frank-cole]

Have police said they are looking for fibres, or is that just media speculation ?

They forensically tested the material they found at the dam. That means they test the material they find. A victim who was wearing clothes & then searching material found - What do you think the logic behind this would be?

Searching for a victim will include searching for things the victim had with them & testing things the victim may have come into contact with.

In the interest of balance - I’m trying to piece together a counter narrative to this but I’m struggling. Please can you assist?

 

[Davieson]

Okay so what the BKA had said was that they would inform the public after the search if nothing was found. This never happened!

Perhaps they can't admit that it a futile waste of time and effort.

 

[Davieson]

They forensically tested the material the found at the dam. That means they test the material they find.

Searching for a victim will include searching for things the victim had with them & testing things the victim may have come into contact with.

I’m struggling piece together a counter narrative to this. Please can you assist?

I don't need a counter narrative, whatever that is. I just try to extract truth from the chaff.
This involves querying what is published in the media

 

[frank-cole]

I don't need a counter narrative, whatever that is. I just try to extract truth from the chaff.
This involves querying what is published in the media

IMO research & taking into account previous investigative actions gives a better perspective than going by whatever is or whatever isn’t published in the media.

 

[C.greek]

Perhaps they can't admit that it a futile waste of time and effort.

Yes, the cynical in you would say that. But there is the counter narrative that they did find something and they are not disclosing since they haven't disclosed anything to do with MM for a long time now. I don't know, I am hopeful her parents will get answers and justice will be served for MM.

 

[johnlair]

I wonder why they should think that ?
I'd have thought that any predator would want to be well away from the scene as soon a

They forensically tested the material they found at the dam. That means they test the material they find. A victim who was wearing clothes & then searching material found - What do you think the logic behind this would be?

Searching for a victim will include searching for things the victim had with them & testing things the victim may have come into contact with.

In the interest of balance - I’m trying to piece together a counter narrative to this but I’m struggling. Please can you assist?

maybe they are trying to locate the camcorder Helge threw away

 

[frank-cole]

Yes, the cynical in you would say that. But there is the counter narrative that they did find something and they are not disclosing since they haven't disclosed anything to do with MM for a long time now. I don't know, I am hopeful her parents will get answers and justice will be served for MM.

Your last sentence perfectly sums up the whole purpose & what matters most.

In the interest of trying to roll with the pattern of this debate, I’m trying to think of a counter narrative for every single point one of us makes so I have a better chance of trying to rationalise them when they come.

 

[frank-cole]

Yes, the cynical in you would say that. But there is the counter narrative that they did find something and they are not disclosing since they haven't disclosed anything to do with MM for a long time now. I don't know, I am hopeful her parents will get answers and justice will be served for MM.

From the telegraph

“Madeleine McCann investigators remove 'evidence' from abandoned houses”

“Detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann have taken samples of potential evidence from abandoned houses near where she went missing 18 years ago”.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Yes, the cynical in you would say that. But there is the counter narrative that they did find something and they are not disclosing since they haven't disclosed anything to do with MM for a long time now. I don't know, I am hopeful her parents will get answers and justice will be served for MM.

I hope she’s found too. I am hopeful about this area, it’s been suggested several times as the burial site by independent people. If she is found though, it will still need to be proven that CB put her there.

Do you have any thoughts on how the police might be able to do that?

 

[tedtink]

I hope she’s found too. I am hopeful about this area, it’s been suggested several times as the burial site by independent people. If she is found though, it will still need to be proven that CB put her there.

Do you have any thoughts on how the police might be able to do that?

Really?
Can you explain more about the 'independent people', who they are and what they said about MM being buried there? Any links? - thanks.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

Really?
Can you explain more about the 'independent people', who they are and what they said about MM being buried there? Any links? - thanks.

Most recently Bernt Stellander - apparently he has provided information to HCW. He has published an 800 page book on the subject and done several interviews. A google search will point you in his direction.

 

[vls12345]

Investigators search abandoned building linked to Madeleine McCann's disappearance 18 years ago

The case received worldwide interest for several years, with reports of sightings of McCann occurring as far away as Australia.

www.11alive.com

Police investigating the disappearance of British toddler Madeleine McCann searched near an abandoned rural building in southern Portugal on Tuesday as they launched fresh probes near the holiday resort where she was last seen 18 years ago.

The teams were seen using pickaxes, shovels and chainsaws to clear dense vegetation and dig near a derelict building. Firefighters pumped water out of a well.

 

[frank-cole]

Really?
Can you explain more about the 'independent people', who they are and what they said about MM being buried there? Any links? - thanks.

BrntS/FD vibes…you were so right!

 

[RichardKimble]

Yes, the cynical in you would say that. But there is the counter narrative that they did find something and they are not disclosing since they haven't disclosed anything to do with MM for a long time now. I don't know, I am hopeful her parents will get answers and justice will be served for MM.

Nothing has been disclosed about evidence, it's all made up by the press apart from verbal nonsense by the likes of HeB which the recent court case found to be unreliable.HCW said in 2020 they had a prime suspect, that's it, he said if you knew what he knew you'd think the same, it's never been released.

 

[frank-cole]

Most recently Bernt Stellander - apparently he has provided information to HCW. He has published an 800 page book on the subject and done several interviews. A google search will point you in his direction.

This counter narrative shocked me, I didn’t think things would go that far. The same Bernt Stellander who wrote that when he was with FF when FF got a phone call informing him the BKA have pictures of MM?

 

[C.greek]

This counter narrative shocked me, I didn’t think things would go that far. The same Bernt Stellander who wrote that when he was with FF when FF got a phone call informing him the BKA have pictures of MM?

I think we are going into conspiracy theories once again....