Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #41

[tedtink]

If it ever gets to a trial then we'll be able to see for ourselves what they can try and bypass.

It will only be of interest to those who are touting for the defence.
IMO

 

[Hexe]

Yep. The stacking dilutes it.

I think 1 piece of evidence against CB will be immeasurably stronger than anything before it. When that happens all over arguments debunked

It have been five years since CB was named as a suspect, in three months he will be free. I seriously doubt that mythical evidence even exists.

 

[Davieson]

The way(s) in which MM came to the hands of CB if they can prove CB killed her are nowhere here nor there.

Its all down to IF though isn't it.
We'll just have to wait and see what evidence they've actually got.

 

[C.greek]

By the way what are these sat nav which were in CB 'S possession and show him being in Portugal? How accurate are these and do these only work if CB asked to go from one place to the other or could they hold keys as to his whereabouts irrespective of him searching??

Hard drive found at suspect’s factory ‘contains evidence Madeleine McCann is dead’

Stash of children’s items and child abuse images also discovered at abandoned factory owned by Christian Brueckner

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[Davieson]

It will only be of interest to those who are touting for the defence.
IMO

I would have thought that the trial procedure, if one happens, would be of interest to everyone.

 

[C.greek]

It have been five years since CB was named as a suspect, in three months he will be free. I seriously doubt that mythical evidence even exists.

This evidence is no way mythical! The
BKA wouldn't have been allowed to launch a public appeal in the first place if the evidence they already had was not for a strong suspicion. If this evidence is strong for a public appeal though doesn't mean it is strong for a charge. If they don't manage to charge him before he disappears, it doesn't mean there was no evidence that supported their strong suspicions.

 

[Davieson]

By the way what are these sat nav which were in CB 'S possession and show him being in Portugal? How accurate are these and do these only work if CB asked to go from one place to the other or could they hold keys as to his whereabouts irrespective of him searching??

Hard drive found at suspect’s factory ‘contains evidence Madeleine McCann is dead’

Stash of children’s items and child abuse images also discovered at abandoned factory owned by Christian Brueckner

www.telegraph.co.uk

Much would depend on how he used it. If he only switched it on as and when he needed it then it may be of little use.
It'll be 20 year old technology anyway so may be limited in the amount of data it can store.
Another point is that he had a number of vehicle so may have made many journeys without the sat nav being in that vehicle.
Obviously police will know what it stored.

 

[Hexe]

This evidence is no way mythical! The
BKA wouldn't have been allowed to launch a public appeal in the first place if the evidence they already had was not for a strong suspicion.

Evidence enough for strong dudpicion and evidence for conviction are two different things. Often in the course of investigation a number of strong suspects appear, that are later eliminated.

If this evidence is strong for a public appeal though doesn't mean it is strong for a charge. If they don't manage to charge him before he disappears, it doesn't mean there was no evidence that supported their strong suspicions.

How many years they had to charge him?

 

[C.greek]

Evidence enough for strong dudpicion and evidence for conviction are two different things. Often in the course of investigation a number of strong suspects appear, that are later eliminated.


How many years they had to charge him?

You are missing the point. Public appeals are not common! And they go under a lot of scrutiny before they are allowed!

 

[Hexe]

You are missing the point. Public appeals are not common! And they go under a lot of scrutiny before they are allowed!

Enough of evidence to have a public appeal does not equal enough evidence to convict. How many years did they have to charge CB? Why didn't they do that earlier if they havr such groundbreaking evidence?

 

[Hygge]

Enough of evidence to have a public appeal does not equal enough evidence to convict. How many years did they have to charge CB? Why didn't they do that earlier if they havr such groundbreaking evidence?

They surely have their reasons. A prosecution is only allowed to investigate if there is really evidence. They are not allowed to investigate only because of a suspicion. I see the problem in the evidence as photos for example could be rejected by the court.

 

[Davieson]

The whole thing might be rejected by the court and not get to trial, though I sincerely hope not.

 

[C.greek]

Enough of evidence to have a public appeal does not equal enough evidence to convict. How many years did they have to charge CB? Why didn't they do that earlier if they havr such groundbreaking evidence?

Again you are missing the point. You talked about "mythical evidence". I told you it is definitely not mythical since after investigating him for 2 + years they got a court decision to launch a public appeal with the evidence they had. That evidence was particularly strong to allow them to launch this public appeal for murder. They have been investigating him for a further 5 years. I would only hope they had all the available time in the world to gather the evidence that would allow them to bring justice for this little girl!

 

[tedtink]

By the way what are these sat nav which were in CB 'S possession and show him being in Portugal? How accurate are these and do these only work if CB asked to go from one place to the other or could they hold keys as to his whereabouts irrespective of him searching??

Hard drive found at suspect’s factory ‘contains evidence Madeleine McCann is dead’

Stash of children’s items and child abuse images also discovered at abandoned factory owned by Christian Brueckner

www.telegraph.co.uk

We never positively ID'd the device that was on the seat of the VW in Malaga - March '07.
GPS device/ Mp3 player/ TomTom were all discussed at the time.

 

[frank-cole]

It have been five years since CB was named as a suspect, in three months he will be free. I seriously doubt that mythical evidence even exists.

Prosecutors only get involved if there’s evidence of a crime. That why they aren’t running a prosecution for Inga’s disappearance

 

[frank-cole]

Again you are missing the point. You talked about "mythical evidence". I told you it is definitely not mythical since after investigating him for 2 + years they got a court decision to launch a public appeal with the evidence they had. That evidence was particularly strong to allow them to launch this public appeal for murder. They have been investigating him for a further 5 years. I would only hope they had all the available time in the world to gather the evidence that would allow them to bring justice for this little girl!

Yep. Murder investigations happen for a reason.

 

[Hexe]

Prosecutors only get involved if there’s evidence of a crime.

I am not talking about evidence of crime, but about evidence of guilt.

 

[Mex]

Enough of evidence to have a public appeal does not equal enough evidence to convict. How many years did they have to charge CB? Why didn't they do that earlier if they havr such groundbreaking evidence?

There is always a reason for a public appeal. In CB's case investigators were alerted to his very existence. Then once his name was prematurely released into the public domain, investigators made the best of it by appealing for information regarding his vehicles.
One hasn't a clue why there would be a public appeal issued at this stage.
Even MM's parents have ceased making regular appeals for information since the one they made on the tenth anniversary of the disappearance which motivated CB's 'friends' to pass on the information they held on him.
Which led to justice for DM and his incarceration for seven years.

Immediately prior to which was conviction for molesting a minor and conviction for drug dealing.

He is a career criminal of the worst possible type and we will never know the full extent of his criminality.
My opinion

 

[Mex]

I am not talking about evidence of crime, but about evidence of guilt.

There has to be evidence of a crime to enable evidence of guilt to be proved in a court of law.
Prosecutors cannot go for the jugular until a judge is convinced by the evidence that there is just cause to go to trial.

That is the process which was gone through for CB's most recent trial. So there you have it.
One judge allows prosecution on the evidence. The presiding judge rubbishes the evidence to the nth degree - to the extent of cancelling the arrest warrant.

One can see why prosecutors in the MM case are taking such great care.
My opinion

 

[Hexe]

There has to be evidence of a crime to enable evidence of guilt to be proved in a court of law.

The thing is that in the timespan of five years this particular case haven't got any closer to getting to the court of law.