Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #41

I had the same thought. I reckon the sat nav shows he went nowhere near Tomar so he lied to NF. Might be incriminating but I would be surprised if either ever told the truth to one another. We know he was also have relations with the teenager that week.

From CB's letter to MWT

"He says he goes to jail and comes out in December 2006 and from that point on he does not return back to PDL"......

This will put a serious dent in his credibility if proven to be untrue, imo. Makes me wonder what he said of his whereabouts to LE back in 2013, which obvs would have been recorded.

 
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The link is below.

Not saying this to be a dick but I do think a circumstantial case is based on a narrative. It’s a story based on facts that makes any other way the crime could be committed impossible.

In this instance, it’s possible for the sat nav to indicate he was heading in the direction of PDL but then a gap during the critical time period.

If the link below is to be believed, they have him heading from somewhere to this place 12km from PDL, stationary for six hours, then his onward journey.

It seems likely that he was in or around PDL before this stop and if so bingo! It’s another part of the story.

However, the sat nav will also likely show that he was travelling in and around these areas at all hours every other day - he lived there and committed crime there… even in one of his letters he mentioned travelling at night on back roads or similar… that might be incriminating.

No doubt the BKA’s story puts him in the frame across different pieces of evidence - cell phone data, sat nav trips, emails etc. But, I think there are alternative, equally compelling, narratives that can also explain when, where and why he was at these places.

It might be worthwhile us listing all the evidence we think they have on him and then looking at these more closely to see if we can put some more of the pieces together.


Thanks for the link.
Is this article really a BKA leak like the OP said? I'm sure they'd pick a more reputable news outlet if so. Like you, I have my suspicions about it. There are lots of bonkers stories on there about CB and MM.
 
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I don’t think we know if any of the box factory evidence is admissible - I lean towards non of it being allowed in the last trial. If it was, statements saying they had the same evidence from his email account would be unnecessary.

I think the gps puts him somewhere in or around PDL. The latest search area surrounded his farm house which was walking distance from the town centre.

Putting some of this together, it seems likely they have him in PDL on 3/5 before the disappearance window and they have travel on the sat nav afterwards ultimately to the location 12km away.
I think timing of these journeys will be crucial, as they ought to be able to show where he (or at least the vehicle) was between the hours of ,say, 6 & 12 that evening.
 
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I don’t think we know if any of the box factory evidence is admissible - I lean towards non of it being allowed in the last trial. If it was, statements saying they had the same evidence from his email account would be unnecessary.

I think the gps puts him somewhere in or around PDL. The latest search area surrounded his farm house which was walking distance from the town centre.

Putting some of this together, it seems likely they have him in PDL on 3/5 before the disappearance window and they have travel on the sat nav afterwards ultimately to the location 12km away.
So I would make the guess they were trying to find other evidence to put him there apart from the GPS which could be inadmissible. This is a frustrating case, having incriminating evidence they cannot use... and having to find other ways to corroborate this.
 
I think timing of these journeys will be crucial, as they ought to be able to show where he (or at least the vehicle) was between the hours of ,say, 6 & 12 that evening.
I think that’s critical and the emphasis on the phone call suggests they might not have it.

It doesn’t take very long to travel 12km. Therefore, I think we can infer that they have him travelling from somewhere to this location in the early hours of the morning. This somewhere is close enough to PDL make their timeline work but it’s not PDL.

What they possibly don’t have from the sat nav is anything placing him in PDL on 3/5.

When you think about it, this all makes sense because he knew PDL well and wouldn’t need sat nav to pick the best route… he knew them already.

Now, if he was up to no good either with MM or something else m, to get to the location 12km away, he may have needed to check out the options and go for the best back-roads that would prevent him from being seen.

Now we are heading down this path, I do think there is more meaning to his letter when he spoke about back roads and trying avoid detection.
 
So I would make the guess they were trying to find other evidence to put him there apart from the GPS which could be inadmissible. This is a frustrating case, having incriminating evidence they cannot use... and having to find other ways to corroborate this.
We don't know that the evidence is incriminating, it could be little more than an indication of his location at certain times, which in itself may not be incriminating and they have been trying to flesh it out by allternative means.
However, they'll have had this data for a good number of years, so clearly not been too successful.
 
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So I would make the guess they were trying to find other evidence to put him there apart from the GPS which could be inadmissible. This is a frustrating case, having incriminating evidence they cannot use... and having to find other ways to corroborate this.
Yeah, it makes sense that they have a strong circumstantial case “if you knew what I knew…” but they can’t use some aspects of it - this would explain the appeal.

Nevertheless whatever they have is not categorical, it’s just strong suspicion.
 
Thanks for the link.
Is this article really a BKA leak like the OP said? I'm sure they'd pick a more reputable news outlet if so. Like you, I have my suspicions about it. There are lots of bonkers stories on there about CB and MM.
Yes, I have wondered about the source. It just seems specific and it makes a lot of sense with HCW and NF’s comments. And, leaks come from different sources - they Sun article was an official leak (oxymoron but you know what I mean) whereas this could have been been a genuine leak from someone working the case.
 
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So I would make the guess they were trying to find other evidence to put him there apart from the GPS which could be inadmissible. This is a frustrating case, having incriminating evidence they cannot use... and having to find other ways to corroborate this.
Maybe he used the jag or didn’t have the gps with him that night.

Do we know if the gps they found at the box factory is the same one as pictured (recently on the thread) in his van?

“was my vehicle seen clearly in the area” - CB.

Why would he think his vehicle wasn’t seen clearly if he hadn’t been in the area?
 
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Maybe he used the jag or didn’t have the gps with him that night.

Do we know if the gps they found at the box factory is the same one as pictured (recently on the thread) in his van?

“was my vehicle seen clearly in the area” - CB.

Why would he think his vehicle wasn’t seen clearly if he hadn’t been in the area?
Is he indicated he was in the area, he might well be asking was my vehicle seen in the area, it's all context and I'd venture none of us are qualified to determine it's meaning.
 
Maybe he used the jag or didn’t have the gps with him that night.

Do we know if the gps they found at the box factory is the same one as pictured (recently on the thread) in his van?

“was my vehicle seen clearly in the area” - CB.

Why would he think his vehicle wasn’t seen clearly if he hadn’t been in the area?
In which case it would all be pretty much a waste of time and effort.

I think its pretty clear from the report that they have some data that they consider incriminating, even if it isn't clear cut
 
Yeah, it makes sense that they have a strong circumstantial case “if you knew what I knew…” but they can’t use some aspects of it - this would explain the appeal.

Nevertheless whatever they have is not categorical, it’s just strong suspicion.
This is the last appeal updated in June 2024.

The Braunschweig public prosecutor's office and the Federal Criminal Police Office ask for your help!

Disappearance of the Madeleine McCANN on 03.05.2007 in Praia da Luz / Portugal – Witnesses wanted

The Braunschweig public prosecutor's office and the Federal Criminal Police Office are investigating a German defendant on suspicion of murder.


On 03.05.2007, the then 3-year-old disappeared Madeleine (Maddie) Beth McCANN Without a trace from a hotel complex in Praia da Luz / Portugal.

In this context, at the request of the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office, the Federal Criminal Police Office is conducting an investigation on suspicion of murder against a 45-year-old German citizen who is currently in custody on another matter.

He lived more or less permanently in the Algarve between 1995 and 2007, including for a few years in a house between Lagos and Praia da Luz. During this period he worked several odd jobs in the Lagos area, including in the catering industry. In addition, there are indications that he also made a living by committing crimes such as burglaries in hotel complexes and holiday apartments as well as drug trafficking.

Furthermore, the suspect has been sentenced to prison several times in the past for sexually abusing children. Most of his contacts are probably not aware of this.

Some of the vehicles he used at the time, various contact points and a Portuguese mobile phone number are known to the investigating authorities.

The Federal Criminal Police Office and the Braunschweig public prosecutor's office ask for your help in further clarifying the circumstances of the crime.
Last updated: June 18, 2024

 
In which case it would all be pretty much a waste of time and effort.

I think its pretty clear from the report that they have some data that they consider incriminating, even if it isn't clear cut
Could well be.

I think they’ll have some evidence that blindside all of us.
 
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In which case it would all be pretty much a waste of time and effort.

I think its pretty clear from the report that they have some data that they consider incriminating, even if it isn't clear cut
It could be because he was using someone else's vehicle,
 
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MWT ...

"He is saying that on the 10th of May he took this young girl to the airport because she was leaving the country. Whilst she was there, she was stopped for carrying pepper spray. There is a document which puts that date connected to her, with her name at the airport. But Christian B is not mentioned in the police record, so it cannot verify his location."


Is this woman the ‘alibi’ who can’t account for his whereabouts on the night MM was abducted?
 
It could be because he was using someone else's vehicle,
Alternatively, some one might have been using his vehicle - he did have several and we don't know which one they have data for. Police themselves may not know.
Proving he was in that vehicle, wherever it might have been, could prove difficult.
 

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