Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #5

[Ardoch]

I've worked with Germans in the past and one thing I will say about them is they are very efficient and very precise.

So if they have written to K&GM to tell them Maddie is dead and they know how she died, then you can be sure they have solid irrefutable evidence.

Since CB isn't talking yet, there can only be a limited number of possibilities that can deliver that level of certainty.

1) Video
2) Photographs
3) Physical objects/evidence that can lead only to the conclusion that a person is dead (if you catch my drift)
4) Some written confession the suspect produced at some point in the past (email, text, diary, etc)

Someone saying "he said this, I saw that" wouldn't cut it to write to the parents with such finality, since it would only be hearsay and nothing like the "concrete evidence" they are claiming to have.

I agree. I have German blood; but if I also have any efficency and preciseness, I haven't got any at the moment trying to figure any of this out!

 

[Mercsw]

he absolutely couldve done the lot...i dont know why that's ruled out. he was in the vicinity, or couldve been, for each one of them.
the police dont just notify officially if they dont know. i think it used to be strange, but it all makes sense now-ish.
if CB has done them all, then it fits the timeline, his movements and his interests.

one of the cases he may have been 50 miles away at that time. That covers a lot of folk!

there are a lot of red flags and it’s interesting that he jumps country and ditches his entire life at this time, but I feel he’s suspicious and it suits the conviction lawyers for him to be seen as a boogeyman that will kill again and again if released.

 

[Ardoch]

It's The Mirror so I'd be a bit wary re a barrister "breaking down in tears" I wonder if this was checked out?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-alive-witness-tells-2343495

 

[Mercsw]

I agree. I have German blood; but if I also have any efficency and preciseness, I haven't got any at the moment trying to figure any of this out!

yes it’s a surprise to hear their courts may have made a mistake with that extradition. Some stereotypes are offensive and racist, some are just the truth!

German courts are thorough and precise! They don’t tend to cut corners

 

[Deleted member 268067]

one of the cases he may have been 50 miles away at that time. That covers a lot of folk!

there are a lot of red flags and it’s interesting that he jumps country and ditches his entire life at this time, but I feel he’s suspicious and it suits the conviction lawyers for him to be seen as a boogeyman that will kill again and again if released.

Does it though? How many active pedophiles capable of abduction do you know in every 50 mile radius? I bloody hope there’s not a fair few to choose from.

 

[Ardoch]

yes it’s a surprise to hear their courts may have made a mistake with that extradition. Some stereotypes are offensive and racist, some are just the truth!

German courts are thorough and precise! They don’t tend to cut corners

That's true but I suppose mistakes can happen anywhere and at any level though.

 

[jbinator]

I am almost certain they have video evidence of MM.
could IT be likely CB also showed this to his pal in the pub along with the rape of the elderly women?
They are not saying however as it would indicate the evidence they have.

also is it possible that they have been onto CB for sometime and the “pal” was an undercover agent? Whom he’s built up trust with over time.

Prayers for MM and her family. It is grim.

 

[Ardoch]

I am almost certain they have video evidence of MM.
could IT be likely CB also showed this to his pal in the pub along with the rape of the elderly women?
They are not saying however as it would indicate the evidence they have.

also is it possible that they have been onto CB for sometime and the “pal” was an undercover agent? Whom he’s built up trust with over time.

Prayers for MM and her family. It is grim.

It's about what they're not telling us as much as what they are saying.
CB wouldn't have mentioned what he did if the companion wasn't involved or knew about his crimes and sick persuations.
The scenarios re the drinking companion are - " friend whom he trusted but who found a conscience with what he saw" "friend who wanted money" " friend who was a part of something and got caught "undercover 'friend'" imo

 

[Armchair_Defective]

I think you are way off track, considering GM statement was made in Sept 2007 (around the time Kate & Gerry were made Arguidos) & CK in Nov 2007, I’m more inclined to think false statements to put the Kate & Gerry more in the frame? Jmoo x

Are you saying the statement seeing Gerry at the bank was a false statement?

 

[Ardoch]

Does it though? How many active pedophiles capable of abduction do you know in every 50 mile radius? I bloody hope there’s not a fair few to choose from.

I think you might be shocked looking at some statistics and reports especially around holiday areas.

 

[mrjitty]

Just in from Australian media as breaking news is the Germans have sent the McCann notification that M has deceased.

Again I think we need a primary source for this.

Otherwise it is just media reporting what the daily mail / mirror etc said based on no primary quoted source

 

[Ardoch]

I think you might be shocked looking at some statistics and reports especially around holiday areas.

Sorry Bastardo, misread you're post I'm referring too. You mentioned abduction not just paedophiles.

 

[NCanning]

A couple of people in this thread have mentioned a basement, I seem to have missed what that refers to?

 

[Armchair_Defective]

Sorry if this has been chatted about previously but how would MM be taken from her room without making a noise etc? Sorry if I am too naive :-(

I don't think you are being naive. I've been reading about this case since the beginning and I don't see how with the checks the parents and friends were doing that it's likely someone got in there and wasn't heard. Either the times they gave are not right, or no abductor was in their IMO.

 

[Dlk79]

Again I think we need a primary source for this.

Otherwise it is just media reporting what the daily mail said based on no primary quoted source

It' been reported by several outlets including the Mail, Telegraph, Sun and Sky, the source being the Prosecutor speaking from his office that they have sent a lettet to the McCanns.

 

[mrjitty]

Thanks....I posted this question before in #4...glad to see some reality here.

Just wondering...is the Daily Mirror a serious paper? Why would a German Prosecuter entrust all of this information "exclusively" to this paper? In the Netherlands we have a saying "Where smoke is, there is fire", but I'm not yet prepared to believe everything they write. Madeleine McCann could be alive admits German prosecutor who said she was dead

This is exactly the problem with posting tabloid sources when they routinely make things up or misinform

Why would the German prosecutor write to the parents to tell them MM is dead when he has said something contradictory on the record?

 

[NCanning]

I have seen discussions around this before on a different forum and they came to the conclusion that it may not be a false statement as such but more that CK possibly witnessed a journalist phoning in details of a press conference that KM had done where she pleads for whoever has taken MM to not hurt her.

She couldnt have seen GM outside the bank that day as at that point they were being followed 24/7 by the media so possibly more a case of mistaken identity rather than false statement?

I am torn to be honest it could be either.

Yes, his every move was being followed by dozens of journalists. And probably the PJ too, so GM couldn't have been here.
And it also seems odd that she says she didn't know at that point about a girl going missing, and then she realised it had been GM a few months later. Surely if you witnessed such an odd phone call within days of a child going missing, you'd then make the effort of looking into it all in a bit more depth

 

[Armchair_Defective]

Again I think we need a primary source for this.

Otherwise it is just media reporting what the daily mail / mirror etc said based on no primary quoted source

I'm pretty sure the prosecutor was quoted directly...somewhere!

 

[Deleted member 268067]

I think you might be shocked looking at some statistics and reports especially around holiday areas.

*fingers in ears* No.

 

[haden]

Does anyone remember this? There was a statement in PJ files where a tourist who had children and lived near 5A mentions a young guy who stayed locally and who disappeared a few days later.