Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #7

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Carol Everett is laughable. Please see attached screenshot for reference. Apologies for being facetious - the drawing of the moustache and wig onto CB made me LOL at how ridiculous it looks.

I don't see many similarities in the houses. The roofs are different designs.

Any of my comments aren't aimed at you. I'd take anything Carol Everett says with a pinch of salt.

She indicated in her write up about MM that she believed the child was attending a school in a uniform... with a unicorn on it. I mean really? Is that even a thing? Quick google search didn't cough up any school uniforms with unicorns on that were not cartoons.

 

[Tim N]

Madeleine McCann suspect 'joked he had hid her in cellar' claims sickened ex-pal[/QUOTE]

I'm standing by my inference that there are a lot more paedophiles roaming our streets than people realise, and suggest that some may help each other willingly or inadvertently.

And CB seemed to manage to live well enough to purchase properties and that suggests some form or income that's unknown. (payment?)

I've linked it on a couple of occasions now that according to wiki, 5% of the male pop is paedophilic. At that rate, thats 1 house in 20.

Let's say that its less than 5%..Theres still thousands of people who lean this way, in varying ranges of extremity.

Please do the math - by the 5% number, there's 100 p'philes just in PdL. 3 million in Germany.

Please bear with me here:

Most of us, or at least many of us are probably in some sort of social group which get together, or know each other through similar interests. (This association usually goes 1 or more degrees of separation beyond that also).

Many of us even meet in person at some point - with people theyve befriended online or through groups.

But my point is that IF there are 5% of people, then its not just that figure that's frightening, its the fact that these people enable each other which makes the threat that much greater.

Add to that that certain areas provide more opportunity than others, then you get a kind of lurk for people of that type. Then throw in drugs and rug running and you have a bunch of people not willing to turn on each other - and/or lying when questioned which makes the trail impossible to stitch together.

The police's job is then much more difficult because they need to have a water tight story for not just CB, but also for those they p[lan to cite as part of their evidence.

Perhaps their angle is that if they find a body at one or more of his properties, then they can pin him?..and quite possibly he's completely disposed of any and every trace of bodies- far from his properties.

It also explains why the police think M is dead. They no doubt have a witness or witnesses account of her murder, but probably from someone or several people who have a long history of lying.

That's where all the evidence points for me anyway.

 

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If they had a witness account though, from people who had a history of lying, then I'd have to ask in which cases have they lied and why? Was it to cover themselves, someone else? What motivated them to lie? What makes police think they might be lying now? Or what makes them think now they might be telling the truth, enough so that they've publicized their views on her status?

 

[sleuth-d-]

Not sure if this has already been posted. Apologies if it has.
A very emotive interview.

£12million to search for mbm, but this woman has been seriously let down by LE.
i will keep searching, but has anyone seen a link to a detailed description of the CB rape trial? I did a quick list of similarities between these two crimes and there appear to be way too many.
Tubridy floored by ‘bravery’ of woman sharing her harrowing rape ordeal live on air

 

[BellMat]

The Guardian article, which wasn’t about CB as such, said:

“In Germany it is suspected ... that the proof of Madeleine’s death may not be admissible in court because of how it was obtained.”

That would make sense, I guess. Something they know but can’t use? I’m not familiar with German law so I can’t speculate on what’s considered ‘inadmissible’ there.

Madeleine McCann case: tabloids and trolls fill vacuum as wait goes on

 

[photographer4]

The Guardian article, which wasn’t about CB as such, said:

“In Germany it is suspected ... that the proof of Madeleine’s death may not be admissible in court because of how it was obtained.”

That would make sense, I guess. Something they know but can’t use? I’m not familiar with German law so I can’t speculate on what’s considered ‘inadmissible’ there.

Madeleine McCann case: tabloids and trolls fill vacuum as wait goes on

So maybe if they got it through an illegal search / seizure? Eg: without a warrant? Or maybe through some questioning of someone that wasn't legal? It must be good evidence for them to release what they have and to request help from the public! They must think they can get more, perhaps something that IS admissible through these new pleas to the public... Sure hope they can!

 

[BellMat]

So maybe if they got it through an illegal search / seizure? Eg: without a warrant? Or maybe through some questioning of someone that wasn't legal? It must be good evidence for them to release what they have and to request help from the public! They must think they can get more, perhaps something that IS admissible through these new pleas to the public... Sure hope they can!

Yes, an illegal search is possible. Or testimony that’s considered entrapment? It could be a lot of things and as I said, I don’t really know anything about German law.

There’s no doubt they’re holding back. LE would never reveal everything to the media. So we can only look at the *specific info* they released and the *specific questions* they asked.

Why that info? Why those questions?

It feels like they’re seeking verification of something they already have or know ...

 

[SouthAussie]

Not sure if this has already been posted. Apologies if it has.
A very emotive interview.

£12million to search for mbm, but this woman has been seriously let down by LE.
i will keep searching, but has anyone seen a link to a detailed description of the CB rape trial? I did a quick list of similarities between these two crimes and there appear to be way too many.
Tubridy floored by ‘bravery’ of woman sharing her harrowing rape ordeal live on air

I think that the victim (in your link) agrees with you about the crime similarities ......

'My mind was blown when I read how he had attacked a woman in 2005, both the tactics and the methods he used, the tools he had with him, how well he had planned it out.'
Police have ruled out Christian Brueckner as suspect in rape of Irish holiday rep | Daily Mail Online

 

[BellMat]

Not sure if this has already been posted. Apologies if it has.
A very emotive interview.

£12million to search for mbm, but this woman has been seriously let down by LE.
i will keep searching, but has anyone seen a link to a detailed description of the CB rape trial? I did a quick list of similarities between these two crimes and there appear to be way too many.
Tubridy floored by ‘bravery’ of woman sharing her harrowing rape ordeal live on air

This woman is extraordinarily brave. She shouldn’t have to fight so hard to get justice. I don’t really understand why Portuguese police have already dismissed this? There are certainly similarities to the 2005 case. The Met is aware so hopefully they are following up also.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

I agree that Hazel is brave - brave to survive the ordeal and braver still to revisit it now.

In the Daily Mail article, it says that CB’s gf, N, was deported from Portugal due to criminality. What may she have been deported for, and why wasn’t CB deported?

 

[Cherwell]

This woman is extraordinarily brave. She shouldn’t have to fight so hard to get justice. I don’t really understand why Portuguese police have already dismissed this? There are certainly similarities to the 2005 case. The Met is aware so hopefully they are following up also.

It's just tabloid prattle as far as I can see. The Portuguese police have not made any statement about it.

 

[BellMat]

It's just tabloid prattle as far as I can see. The Portuguese police have not made any statement about it.

Yeah, I’m only giving it credence because it was reported in the Portuguese press first, then re-reported in British tabloids.

Their spin on the report may well be wrong. It’s possible her case was previously ruled out by Portuguese police but will now be looked at again.

 

[leticiaoliveira]

CB's ex-gf hiding from the police is making me start thinking she knows something, either about his crimes in general or about MM's abduction/alleged murder, specifically. IMO.

 

[Lyndaloo]

CB's ex-gf hiding from the police is making me start thinking she knows something, either about his crimes in general or about MM's abduction/alleged murder, specifically. IMO.

I thought she had went into hiding as she feared for her life - After speaking to the police?

 

[SouthAussie]

<RSBM>
Or what makes them think now they might be telling the truth, enough so that they've publicized their views on her status?

I think that maybe Brueckner bragged to his friends with a little too much detail.

"....... law enforcement are interested in Brückner due to the fact that they believe he has "knowledge" surrounding the abduction that could only be known by the person responsible."
Madeleine McCann Update: 'Knockout' Evidence In Case Could Be Provided By Unexpected People

 

[leticiaoliveira]

I thought she had went into hiding as she feared for her life - After speaking to the police?

She did talk to the police, actually (I didn't know). But what she told the police remains secret. So she's not hiding from the police. She's hiding from CB/his "friends."

 

[Tim N]

So maybe if they got it through an illegal search / seizure? Eg: without a warrant? Or maybe through some questioning of someone that wasn't legal? It must be good evidence for them to release what they have and to request help from the public! They must think they can get more, perhaps something that IS admissible through these new pleas to the public... Sure hope they can!

a video on a usb stick that the perp cant 100% be determined?.

 

[Bit of hope]

Madeleine McCann suspect 'joked he had hid her in cellar' claims sickened ex-pal

I'm standing by my inference that there are a lot more paedophiles roaming our streets than people realise, and suggest that some may help each other willingly or inadvertently.

And CB seemed to manage to live well enough to purchase properties and that suggests some form or income that's unknown. (payment?)

I've linked it on a couple of occasions now that according to wiki, 5% of the male pop is paedophilic. At that rate, thats 1 house in 20.

Let's say that its less than 5%..Theres still thousands of people who lean this way, in varying ranges of extremity.

Please do the math - by the 5% number, there's 100 p'philes just in PdL. 3 million in Germany.

Please bear with me here:

Most of us, or at least many of us are probably in some sort of social group which get together, or know each other through similar interests. (This association usually goes 1 or more degrees of separation beyond that also).

Many of us even meet in person at some point - with people theyve befriended online or through groups.

But my point is that IF there are 5% of people, then its not just that figure that's frightening, its the fact that these people enable each other which makes the threat that much greater.

Add to that that certain areas provide more opportunity than others, then you get a kind of lurk for people of that type. Then throw in drugs and rug running and you have a bunch of people not willing to turn on each other - and/or lying when questioned which makes the trail impossible to stitch together.

The police's job is then much more difficult because they need to have a water tight story for not just CB, but also for those they p[lan to cite as part of their evidence.

Perhaps their angle is that if they find a body at one or more of his properties, then they can pin him?..and quite possibly he's completely disposed of any and every trace of bodies- far from his properties.

It also explains why the police think M is dead. They no doubt have a witness or witnesses account of her murder, but probably from someone or several people who have a long history of lying.

That's where all the evidence points for me anyway.[/QUOTE]

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[NCanning]

As an aside, I still can't get my head around subsequent families having a holiday in apartment 5a. How on earth could you enjoy your holiday knowing where you were staying? ( the ones who stayed there in the weeks after her disappearance)

 

[MENDEL]

The Guardian article, which wasn’t about CB as such, said:

“In Germany it is suspected ... that the proof of Madeleine’s death may not be admissible in court because of how it was obtained.”

That would make sense, I guess. Something they know but can’t use? I’m not familiar with German law so I can’t speculate on what’s considered ‘inadmissible’ there.

Madeleine McCann case: tabloids and trolls fill vacuum as wait goes on

Me neither, so one can't but guess. Admissible proof as a rule depends on the type of crime under investigation. Terrorism law usually allows broader investigation, but if you use it in another type of crime, proof can be null.

Also, police can use illegal proof, like computer piracy. They won't be able to use that in court. But once they have info they need, they can contour that by obtaining proof legally next.

I suspect they have weak evidence in this case, not illegal evidence tough.