Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #8

[tedtink]

Could well be lights, I thought the same in the picture at the beach. They look like lights facing backwards... But forwards in the Málaga photo?

Yes, they look like they have been threaded through the boot, on wires, probably linked up to the rear lights some how.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

Anyway, I had only added that in for fun, I didn’t think it would become a discussion lol. Sorry for derailing things!

 

[tedtink]

• 1992-present: portuguese plate has the issue date on it. right hand side on yellow.
• malaga photo is covering portuguese plate.
• see issue date on Amaral photo attached... 02/07... FEB 2007
so, assuming the 'photoshop blanking' is covering the portuguese plate, we can say the Malaga photo was taken sometime after feb 2007.

dates are narrowing down, and getting closer to may 2007 imo.

Vehicle registration plates of Portugal - Wikipedia

Agree, good research there.


Registered in Feb 2007 with graffitti.
MM May 2007
Before or after that van had a white paint job.
Jag re registered next day after MM and taken back to Germany sometime in May 2007
CB left Portugal and arrived in Germany with Winnebago in May 2007
Westfalia taken to scrap yard and sold to German owner in 2015. (why go back to Portugal?)
I wonder where the Westfalia was from 2007-2015?

 

[MysteryAlpaca]

Could well be lights, I thought the same in the picture at the beach. They look like lights facing backwards... But forwards in the Málaga photo?

They could also be driver assist mirrors.

 

[NCanning]

You may already have this, ignore if already been posted.....................

"He was charged after police caught him driving his Jaguar in Lagos near Praia da Luz in breach of a confiscation order in January 2004.

He was allowed to keep the German-plated vehicle after being stopped for using a disabled parking bay - but told he could not use it because he had failed to put it on Portuguese plates despite living on the Algarve.Christian B tried to escape punishment by falsely claiming afterwards he was a tourist and said he was simply helping out friends at a bar in Lagos where police said they had spotted him working.

He ended up receiving a £270 (€300) fine after a 2006 trial for disobedience when a court ruled he had lied about not understanding a banning order on using the Jaguar because of language difficulties.Police told court officials they had no record of him having any other vehicles, but a subsequent search thought to be linked to non-payment of the fine and ordered in January 2008, revealed his ownership of the Opel Ascona and Mercedes-Benz van."



Maddie suspect had 2 other vehicles not found by cops at time she vanished

https://headtopics.com/ie/f-ilte-ireland-urging-people-to-holiday-at-home-14021724

I posted this info a few threads ago. It didn't get any attention, but it's very relevant IMO

 

[MajorLang]

HCW has always said they believe shes dead, right from the very first public announcement he did. he said something at a later date along the lines of 'obviously with no body there might be a slim chance she is still alive' and i think this got twisted massively by the MSM to make out he was backtracking but he wasn't if you read the context it was said in... then after that he again came on the record to clear things up and say they had seen evidence Madeleine was dead.

>>>> straight from the horses mouth, speaking english, that they have enough evidence to know Madeleine is dead and that CB killed her.

Thanks for clarifying that @Kikixxxx Do you think CB will ever stand trial or will he do an Epstein, particularly if he was a broker as well as a practitioner?
Would some names that would come out in trial perhaps be embarrassing?

 

[MajorLang]

Also, I think he made that statement about there being a slight chance she was alive right after the McCann's lawyer made the remark about him not sharing the evidence with them, and that they wanted to see the proof that Madeliene was dead.

He is probably in a very difficult position because he can't reveal the evidence that links CB to the crime.

I think it may be that in Germany it is harder to convict no body cases than it is in the US and maybe other countries. They may have plenty of circumstantial evidence such as cell phone data, witness statements and videos or photographs, but still need that one piece of evidence that will ensure a conviction.

Imo

That's interesting. I thought the McCanns had gone on record saying they were not using a lawyer or a spokesperson and that all Comms would come via their official website.
Thanks for clearing that up @MsBetsy.

 

[SouthAussie]

i wondered what he meant by 'parts' too when i first heard it, but i think he was just being literal. They say they have 'evidence' shes dead and usually people would assume this means they’ve found a body. maybe he just doesn't want to leave it open to interpretation (or for people to speculate if they've found a limb or something) and wants to clairfy that they don't have anything like that as such, no body, no limbs, no forensics at all etc but are still sure shes dead..... i really wonder what they've got.

Well, we really don't know why he said that. But one thing is for sure ... I have followed many, many cases here and not once have I heard/read a police officer or prosecutor say that. So I tend to put a little more importance on it.

Sometimes law enforcement hint at what they know - not for us, but to let other people 'in the know' that police are aware of what happened and that the noose is tightening. imo

 

[Chiatos]

Depends on the translation. Does it mean the plates were changed in may 2007. Or does it mean that LE know that in may 2007 the vehicle had Portuguese plates.

Also depends when in may they are talking about. All of may, or a specific date in may.

It is my understanding that the day after Madeleine disappeared, the VW was registered to someone else in/near Augsburg and Portuguese plates were mounted on the van (i.e.: the Portuguese plates were mounted on that day). The VW remained in Portugal, it was not driven to Augsburg.

- Were the Portuguese plates legit? Or were they retrieved from some other car in the scrap yard? I have a hunch that the Portuguese plates were false. (But it's just a hunch)

 

[SouthAussie]

If Málaga pic is related to MM's case and he changed plates in May, then Málaga must be 4-31 May? All red tape will take upwards of 2 weeks at least and still must pass a special inspection to be awarded a Portuguese plate. I'm not absolutely sure, but after deregistering in Germany he's awarded a temporary plate with a short term (maybe 3 months) to allow for registration in another country.

I have a feeling that he changed plates like we change underwear. It is very probable, to me, that those plates may not even pertain to the vehicle they were on.

Police BOLOs may be avoided that way. "Be on alert for a VW van with plate number XXXXX". Change plates and maybe police trouble can be avoided.

 

[MENDEL]

• 1992-present: portuguese plate has the issue date on it. right hand side on yellow.
• malaga photo is covering portuguese plate.
• see issue date on Amaral photo attached... 02/07... FEB 2007
so, assuming the 'photoshop blanking' is covering the portuguese plate, we can say the Malaga photo was taken sometime after feb 2007.

dates are narrowing down, and getting closer to may 2007 imo.

Vehicle registration plates of Portugal - Wikipedia

D, I think year is 82 if you see it again. 82/07.

 

[Chiatos]

so Amaral is saying the VW images he showed were how the camper looked in may 2007 - All white with stickers. is he?
or is he talking in riddles?

Amaral says that the day that police seized the VW from the scrap yard (2019), it had the drawings on it.
Amaral says that the photos of the VW -released by German police- do not show the actual state/appearance of the van when it had been found in the scrap yard in 2019.

 

[Chiatos]

This looks like 82 07 to me.

Year first / above
Month under
= July 2002!
(or July 1982!)

 

[Chiatos]

yes, i thought that to start with. but it can't be 82. as the point of that number is to show a month number.
the 8 is a zero with a diagonal through it. see the zero n 07 below it.

Sleuth, doesn't the highest row depict the year? (according to wiki, I know, I know)
Vehicle registration plates of Portugal - Wikipedia

 

[SouthAussie]

here is the second section [of 4] of the timeline i have for CB.
thanks to all the WSleuths contributions that have helped to put this together.

i thought it would be a good exercise to test it. so feel free to add/edit/amend/debunk.

1995-2006
G = Germany, P = Portugal
Cases that CB has been linked with are included.


Portugal 1995: [CB age 18-19] CB passed driving test. Drives to Portugal with German gf to evade sentence. Lagos. Camping.

German ex-GF NF is from the same town Wurzburg.
Netherlands 1995: Missing: boy missing from Monster, The Netherlands in 1995; JaïrSoares (7) disappeared while he was playing on the beach.

G 1996: [CB age 19-20] Missing: 21 June; René Hasee, 6, from Elsdorf, Germany, on holiday in Aljezur, Algarve. around 25 miles from Praia da Luz.

Belgium 1996: Murder: 5 July: Belgium. German teenager on holiday in the Flemish resort of De Haan. Carola Titze (16) went for a walk on the beach on 5 July never to return. body was found in sand dunes in De Haan, near Ostend, July 5, 1996.

P 1997: [CB age 20-21]

G 1998: [CB age 21-22]
Murder: Tristan Brübach (3 October 1984 – 26 March 1998) was a 13-year-old German boy who was murdered in the Frankfurt suburb of Höchst. His murder remains unsolved.

P 1999-2006: living in portuguese farmhouse/finca with abandoned wells, in Sitio das Lajes, 2km east of PdL.
P 1999: arrested in portugal; minor theft; 2 months. served time in Evora jail. Evora is in mid-portugal.
G 1999: [CB age 22-23] Extradition #1. back to germany to serve balance of 2 year youth sentence.

G 1999-2001: in custody {where?}[juvenile prison?][adult prison?]
"It is unclear if he served any time in prison, or what exactly the two-year juvenile sentence consisted of." [independent]

Madeleine McCann suspect 'had moved to Portugal to flee prison sentence' in Germany

2000: [CB age 23-24]

G 2001: [CB age 24-25] 7 may: peggy knobloch goes missing. 95192 Lichtenberg, Germany. North Eastern Bavaria. The death of Peggy Knobloch, dubbed the “German Maddie” by British tabloids over the years, has been called Germany's most mysterious criminal case. The youngster vanished on her way home from school in May 2001 and her remains weren't discovered until July 2016, when mushroom pickers found human bones in a forest nine miles from Peggy's home in Lichtenberg, Bavaria. More info: Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner faces probes over FIVE child murder victims | Daily Mail Online

2002: [CB age 25-26]

2003: [CB age 26-27]

P 2004: [CB age 27-28] meets berkshire woman in Lagos. Englsh gf#1. both waiting tables in Lagos restaurant. Relationship less than a year. 2004-2005.

In Portugal, police face pressure to re-examine the case of Joana Cipriano [8], who disappeared in 2004 from Figueira, seven miles from Praia da Luz. Her mother & uncle allegedly confessed to her killing but her mother has since said she was forced to admit to the crime by police who beat her. Joana has never been found.

P 2004: 16 june. Approx. 01:00. Rape: Hazel Behan [20]; Praia da rocha [beach resort close to portimao]. 30 minutes drive from PdL. rape; machete. he was in the bedroom when she woke. and called her name. man dressed in tights and leotard. Leather mask covering whole head. blonde hair. blue eyes. ‘pull’ in tights, birthmark or tattoo on right thigh. removed shoes at the door. set up videocamera in the main room. tied up. tortured. 4 or five hours. Euro 2004 in Portugal

P 2005: [CB age 28-29] new years day; early hours; beats up English gf#1 in the toilets of the bar where she works. climbs into gfs flat and hides under the bed.
P 2005: mid 2005: CB first seen by gf with VW dirty mustard yellow, old, long VW (estate, possible=VW Variant) has this car at the time of MBM disappearance.
P 2005: after mid 2005: CB first seen by gf with VW camper van
P 2005 - camper van photo taken at Praia do Barranco [bka photo released 2020] (could also be taken before 2005 prior to CB ownership)
P 2005 - camper van photo taken within Malaga ferry/port area [bka photo released 2020] (could also be taken before 2005 prior to CB ownership)
P 2005: 5 september 10:30pm. rape of 72 year old in her holiday apt in Praia da Luz. planned in detail according to court documents. forced the naked, bound and gagged woman to stand up – and he beat her repeatedly on her chest, lower abdomen, arms and buttocks with a metal object he had brought with him. scimitar. videod. tortured.

attack lasted 15 minutes. took her laptop on the way out.
Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brückner fled police in 1995

P 2006: [CB age 29-30] at some point leaves farm property, leaves personal items in farm property. leaves or most likely arrested?? [‘caught red handed’ according to MT]

P 2006?: Bernhard P: BP Connection - CB used BP's car yard to store his van at times (Daily Mirror).
P 2006: buys blue bedford van with Austrian friend Michael T in 2006. bedford has portuguese plates.

P 2006: Feb-April: CB and MT lived in the Bedford van between Feb and April 2006. Daily Mail source.

MT says he lives with CB at the Finca (farmhouse) and camped in a van in the garden, (possibly the Bedford).


P 2006: [arrested april 7th] [‘caught red handed’ according to MT] on remand 8.5 months in portugal. trial December 21. released December 2006, stealing 320 litres of diesel from lorries. Michael T cellmate, co-criminal in the crime [MT fined €1800, CB fined a bit more than that because he swore at the judge]. MT is austrian carpenter.
P 2006: ??while in jail changes registration of jag to AB

'At some point I reached the conclusion that he was involved with drugs,' he added, and was in prison in Portugal for two or three months, during which time he handed over the Jaguar car to him.

Augsburg resident Alexander B has told how he befriended Maddie McCann suspect CB after being introduced by a mutual friend in around 2007 or 2008. {must have been 2006}

'He said he needed help and was looking for an apartment in Augsburg.

He was driving a Jaguar, which he bought from the mutual acquaintance. 'Because I'm also a Jaguar lover, we had a topic of conversation right away,' says AB.

He said CB was 'often underway - sometimes he travelled to Portugal, sometimes to Sylt, to Munich. In between, he spent nights sleeping in my attic.'

Christian Brueckner is linked to FOURTH unsolved case | Daily Mail Online

P 2006: while in jail CB instructs ‘friend’ to remove all stolen goods from farmhouse
P 2006: while in jail friend robs all CB valuables from farmhouse, including video recorder.
P 2006: while in jail?? {date?? a former accomplice, with whom he had previously stolen diesel fuel (MT), was told of the video CB had apparently filmed of the rape, and eventually police came to his door so he had to tell his story [> see april 2019].}

P 2006: while in jail BernhardP also wrote a letter to try to help get CB out on bail.

P 2006: Finca owner ‘states neighbours contacted him in 2006 to say the place was in a state of abandonment, he reported it to the police and found out CB may have been arrested.’

'We just did not know if Christian was alive or dead and so we decided to go and report him as a missing person.'We went to the GNR (police) station in Lagos, we made a report there', M said. {neighbour also reported it to police}

Maddie suspect's neighbour destroyed any likely DNA from his house

P 2006: may: farmhouse is cleared. looks a mess. due to being ‘turned over’.

M said that in May 2006 she and her daughter entered the filthy home where he lived - a year before Madeleine vanished - after it was burgled

Maddie suspect's neighbour destroyed any likely DNA from his house

“Evidence of dozens of alleged crimes committed by the main suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine Mccann in Portugal may have been destroyed. Exclusively to RTP, the neighbour of CB in Praia da Luz, guarantees to have disposed of dozens of computers and mobile phones that he found inside the house in 2006, at a time when the owner thought he had disappeared. After all, he was arrested for theft in Portimão. {the diesel crime}
Inside the room, there would also be videos of the violations that CB had committed.
Sexta às 9. Podem ter sido destruídas provas de dezenas de alegados crimes de Brückner

P 2006: December 21: released from jail

Great work! I am sure that was very time consuming.

Did you want to put the timeline in its own thread (for ease of finding it again and editing).
We often create a separate thread for the timeline, and important media links, that become difficult to find as time goes by and the threads grow and grow. Especially when a case goes on for years and years.

 

[sleuth-d-]

Sleuth, doesn't the highest row depict the year? (according to wiki, I know, I know)
Vehicle registration plates of Portugal - Wikipedia

Yes my mistake. has to be July 02. As the yellow plate only came into use in 1998 according to that wiki page.
So CB didn’t change the registration from German to Portuguese plates in 2007. he (or a previous owner) did it in 2002.

 

[worldwatcher]

I think the arms description is really interesting. I have 3 small children. If they fall asleep whilst I’m carrying them, they will almost certainly always have their arms around me and remain like that when asleep.

I can’t think of a time amongst hundreds when I’d be carrying them with their arms down, except if I’ve picked them up when already asleep.

I never carried my kids like that at that age,only when they were baby’s. It is also not good for your back and you can certainly not carry a child like that indoors because when you go through a door,you might bump their head or feet,ouch..
The only reason I can think off to carry a child like that is that you want to observe the reaction when a child wakes up. But maybe I am reading too much in too it....?

 

[Chiatos]

Yes my mistake. has to be July 02. As the yellow plate only came into use in 1998 according to that wiki page.
So CB didn’t change the registration from German to Portuguese plates in 2007. he (or a previous owner) did it in 2002.

So on the day after MMs disappearance the VW gets registered to a new owner in Augsburg, but keeps its Portuguese number plates. And it also remains in Portugal according to LE.

The Jag is also related to Augsburg.

 

[worldwatcher]

So on the day after MMs disappearance the VW gets registered to a new owner in Augsburg, but keeps its Portuguese number plates. And it also remains in Portugal according to LE.

The Jag is also related to Augsburg.

I just thought that (only) the Jag was registrered to a new owner day after MM disappearance?

 

[Chiatos]

I never carried my kids like that at that age,only when they were baby’s. It is also not good for your back and you can certainly not carry a child like that indoors because when you go through a door,you might bump their head or feet,ouch..
The only reason I can think off to carry a child like that is that you want to observe the reaction when a child wakes up. But maybe I am reading too much in too it....?

I presume(!) any abductor to have covered / hidden MM while exiting the apartment and walking away. Possibly wrapped her in a sheet / cloth or perhaps hidden her in a large bag. The abductor wouldn't have walked in the street with her for everyone to see?

So I think that that sighting of the child being carried, must have been someone else.