Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #9

[Kikixxxx]

I didn’t click any of them? Sorry I don’t know what a vpn is so no, should it matter if I never clicked into them?

What was it? A webcam site?

 

[Dlk79]

Rtp Video

Sexta às 9. Suspeito do homicídio de Maddie extraditado em 1999 e 2017 por crimes contra crianças

I will try to translate the parts narrated in Portuguese (sorry my English is very poor and I am doing this on a cell phone).

MM disappeared on May 3, 2007. Oliver and Carrie (?) Stenard tell us, in exclusive, what they know because they lived with CB 9 years after Maddie's disappearance. At 30 the suspect in the disappearance of the english girl was a subject always escaping.

When CB arrived in Portugal in 1995 and lived in this house, he was escaping from German justice.
In October 1994, he was sentenced to two years in prison for sexual abuse of a child, but escaped in a motorhome.
He was only extradited to Germany in 1999 and served a third of that sentence, he was released by the authorities in January 2001 and returned to Portugal.

Between trips, and leaving crimes where he passed, taking advantage of the lack of land borders, CB was only imprisoned once in Portugal, for diesel theft in Portimão.
Irony of fate. He was only 8 months in jail, he was released in December 2006. For the sexual abuse of a child in Germany he would have been in prison longer: 1 year and 4 months.

But he was again convicted by the Braunschweig court in February 2016 of child sexual abuse and possession of child .

CB could have been caught right away, because he attack Oliver, who had given him a job. Carrie called the GNR but the guard did not see that CB had an international arrest warrant.

The last time CB was arrested in Portugal was precisely 3 years ago in this São Bartolomeu de Messines playground while the Fiesta de Caracol was taking place. CB was seen by 4 kids, ages 9 to 12, as he masturbated just below where they were playing. The children ran out and called their parents. The parents of these children called the GNR of São Bartilomeu de Messines.

(Interview with the mother of one of the children about the fear she felt when she discovered who that man was and what could have happened).

CB was extradited to Germany exactly the same year that he began to be investigated for MM's disappearance. It was July 2017 and he had spent more than 20 years in Portugal and was never tried for sexually importuning the children of these Portuguese citizens.

Very interesting. This obscene act in the playground is the same rural town as where BP is located, the man who bought CB's Westfalia and who tried to get him out of prison on bail by saying CB could live with him.

 

[Lyndaloo]

VPN just masks your IP address. Google "nordvpn" for a better explanation. Basically it makes is more difficult for people with negative intentions to track your internet footprints is all. And you're probably fine if you didn't click any links.

Thanks for explaining this.

 

[Lyndaloo]

DBM

 

[Lyndaloo]

What was it? A webcam site?

I really don’t know coz I never clicked into them, but seemed as though top description was some kind of but underneath was like description of news articles we have been reading re CB...it’s all very strange, to me anyway.

 

[Lyndaloo]

Yeah, I noticed that. If she is 25 now, it would have made her about 12 at the time of MM which is what he is referring to. Not sure why he said 10, maybe just guesstimating , genuinely wasn’t sure or just got mixed up. On the other hand, I 'm not sure where the statement about her being 25 now came from either, I'm assuming it's correct but couldn't say for definite. Others did claim she was underage when she was with CB but 17 isn't underage in Germany so I'm really not sure.

CB and her dated in 2012, 5 years after MM, which would have made her 17 then or 15 if we're going off her brother's statement.

ETA: This is the other thing that makes no sense about the MWT tweet. He's expecting us to believe the number CB called on the night of MM belonged to NM despite the fact she would have been 10 or 12 at the time and didn't even meet CB until 5 years later in Germany!

We have been told CB dated NM in 2012 and we have assumed based on what we have read in the media that they met in Germany when she lived around the corner from his Kiosk. My latest train of thought after reading this article is that could CB have met her much earlier? Was she a child staying at the home in Foral? We heard her father died, maybe could have been earlier than we think causing her to go there? Did he groom her from 2006? Could she have had phone call with CB the night MM went missing (If the phone / sim card that was used had been left at LS villa...could it then have been passed to one for her relatives DS? Could be a possibly explanation of why the phone was traced to him?) could NM have met MM? Does she know how MM died? Was she forced to take part in any abuse that went on? Is this why she’s said to be key witness? I just can’t rule anything out in this case, far too many false leads in PJ files & too many dodgy friend/connections making statements now that should have alarmed them at the time. Seems as if they are trying to muddy the waters for their own benefit. I defo don’t think he acted alone. Just thinking out loud.

Now, the ‘key’ witness who ‘could’ throw some light on the situation – and ‘might’ provide that vital piece of information that police so badly need – is a former Kosovan girlfriend of Brueckner, who is described as having been a minor in 2006 when she was living with him in a remote spot near Praia da Luz.



German police “fear Maddie suspect could go on run” endangering “other children” - Portugal Resident

 

[Lyndaloo]

I think NM could well be “the teenager” LS talked about who was living in NF “apartment”? The one who ran away and got brought back by CB, it was then apparently discovered she was pregnant? Maybe CB stayed in & “apartment” of the villa when he was staying there? I think she could be the girl in the rape videos. I’m thinking CB made her pregnant causing her to flee for her safety & that of her unborn child but unfortunately he found her & she was then under his control for years? I wonder whether the girl LS was talking about had the baby or not?
We also haven’t heard anything more of the mystery Roman? LS states “Police turned up a couple of times looking for Roman but didn’t reveal why” And that he had “received a some serious looking legal letters from Lisbon”. The theory he acted alone doesn’t add up.
EXCLUSIVE: Footage of property where paedophile and suspect Christian Brueckner lived in the months after Madeleine McCann disappeared from Portugal - Olive Press News Spain

 

[worldwatcher]

Update from July 3rd, 2.30 p.m .: In the case of the missing Maddie McCann, there seems to be a new turning point. Finally, the lawyer of the suspect Christian B. spoke up in an interview with RTL (see below). Now he could be right: As the "Spiegel" reports, the public prosecutor's office in Braunschweig sees "no urgent suspicion" of the accused. That said the first prosecutor Christian Wolters.
"We assume that Christian B. will remain in custody at least until the beginning of 2021 for other offenses," the prosecutor added, which is why there is no time pressure in the investigation.
The suspect is currently in prison for a drug offense. Christian B. has not yet commented on the accusations.

Maddie McCann: Dramatische Wende um Verdächtigen Christian B. - doch alles anders? | Welt
(GT)
Don't know if it has been posted before or if I missed it during scrolling.... (on my mobile here)

 

[HayLouise]

New info that #ChristianBrueckner was removed from Portugal twice for child sex crimes. Also report he was never looked at by Portuguese police re #MadeleineMccann - although Amaral said he did look at him. UK police had his details in 2011 as well .More shocking incompetence

https://twitter.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1279293139635798017?s=21

 

[Tim N]

Might be reading too much into this, but he said "there are reasons to believe that there are other people besides the suspect who know how that night went... maybe they even know where the body was left".

This is interesting to me firstly because he says "reasons" (plural). This might be a reach on my part, but that may mean that they have more than one thing that suggests other people (again, people is plural) might know how it went down that night (night is singular). It makes me think they must have witness statement(s) from someone who was there, or who heard about it all second hand and they need solid proof of it - or others to come forward to corroborate. It also made me think whatever happened to that kid, happened in one night, vs being trafficked or passed about. Just thinking of possibilities and again, its probably way over reading into it...

i think they are referring to 'that night' being the night she was abducted.

 

[Tabech29]

Sick and tired of Amaral. I wonder if NM's mother sold her or collected money for her abuse? If they consider her vital, then she probably has seen MBM or knows about it. Even if she was possibly 10 at the time, unfortunately we have to consider her possibly being exploited at that age. Is her mother still alive?

 

[Lyndaloo]

Sick and tired of Amaral. I wonder if NM's mother sold her or collected money for her abuse? If they consider her vital, then she probably has seen MBM or knows about it. Even if she was possibly 10 at the time, unfortunately we have to consider her possibly being exploited at that age. Is her mother still alive?

I haven’t seen anything about NM mum anywhere. I do believe that NM has known CB for a lot longer than we initially thought, I think she has been groomed by him since maybe 10-11 years old. I dread to think of what horrible chain of events brought them together if this is the case. I do believe NM has personally seen MM & knows what happened to her but this is all just my own thoughts.

 

[Chiatos]

Is Robert M. a brother of NM?
Or in anyway a relative of NM?

 

[Betty_Boop88]

Is Robert M. a brother of NM?
Or in anyway a relative of NM?

I couldn’t find a Robert on any of her Facebook friends lists that were accessible.

 

[HayLouise]

Last Monday I interviewed German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters for 30 minutes about Christian B and Madeleine McCann. To his absolute credit he did not vet any questions in advance. These were some key points that came out of interview #McCann



https://twitter.com/saunokonoko/status/1279336096980066304?s=21

 

[Chiatos]

I couldn’t find a Robert on any of her Facebook friends lists that were accessible.

Thanks for looking up.

CB groomed Robert M. and NM at the time he ran the Kiosk. They must have known one another.

Here is a pic of RM:
Fall Maddie: Kumpel von Christian B. missbrauchte Mädchen (8) auf Dachboden

 

[LeopardLeotard]

There is someone with same surname and an R initial middle name

 

[HayLouise]

Last Monday I interviewed German prosecutor Hans Christian Wolters for 30 minutes about Christian B and Madeleine McCann. To his absolute credit he did not vet any questions in advance. These were some key points that came out of interview #McCann

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https://twitter.com/saunokonoko/status/1279336096980066304?s=21

I wonder what type of concrete it is. There are so many types.

https://twitter.com/jimgamble_ineqe/status/1279351522720124929?s=21

 

[MelodyNelson]

Sick and tired of Amaral.

For years and years already, and with no end in sight. I literally tremble every day when I check the news, afraid to see a new statement from him. He is just so adamant never to let anyone solve this case. There are no words to describe the guy, only a terrible sense of utter hopelessness.

EDIT: typo

 

[LeopardLeotard]

Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner 'terrified' villagers

So this is a different person then this NF?,could this be the same person in Portugal also from Braunschweig that fostered german children with her husband where cb lived for a while..