Majority of Boulder Population Pagans?

[Ames]

I was too then!! Thank heavens!!

LOL Glad that I don't live there...thats a sight that I definately wouldn't have wanted to see. :laugh:

 

[tezi]

Maybe you were standing on the wrong side of the mountain?

I probably was Jayelles! Thank goodness!:crazy:

 

[tezi]

Why thank you Tez. Have a nice weekend.

You too Solace. Watch out for those pagans!!!!:angel:

 

[Eagle1]

You may be right that PR was the one stating PW had the same jacket. I can't remember for sure who said it. Anyone else have an opinion on that?

I realized pretty quickly that "Most" of Boulder being pagan could have been worded much better. It was I, not CK.

However, I did a lot of searching and found that the Mc Reynolds belonged to a "Unity" church, which evidently tries out all religion and calls it education about Comparative Religion. (NOT accusing them or anyone, of course, of acting alone.)

Very very possibly somehow involved, the R's too, not knowing where it would end. This is being discussed also at other forums, and yesterday they said something I'd never heard before, don't know if it'd be okay to say where, here. There's one person there who admits she just likes to argue, who defends the McReynolds as if they were under attack, and her hat sounds like she's also into the occult, so that may be why.

We're all glad we weren't on the correct side of the mountain to see all that, I guess. Also I did read that the ancient celts/druids or whatever had sex games for their children, so they'd be ready when the time came. Will try to remember to give a link later if I printed that out and come across it. One of the members even said something about Santa possibly molesting JonBenet so that she didn't like him any more and tore up the Christmas card which was found in her wastebasket. I wouldn't know. Just passing on the speculation.

For the record, innocent people have been executed due to investigations being too "simple", I must remind any who advocate "The simple solution is often the best," and I promise you I don't remember who, if anyone, said that here. Nothing personal, just the principle of the thing, of life and death importance. The error of snap-judgement sometimes can never be corrected. In a sense it's often manslaughter or MURDER!

There's an old saying, "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread."

One time in 5th grade, a man teacher challenged us about the meaning of it's and its, which one was the possessive, and being the leader of the class and teacher's pet complete with nickname, naturally I spoke up, extremely sure of my answer, but for the first time I was wrong!

Was my face ever red and I will never forget. The more wrong we are, the more sure we are, it seems. I've observed this with other people too. The incident made that much of an impression on me.
I really learned that lesson. Sharing it so others can profit by my big faux pas without the embarrassment. Classmates didn't seem to remember it, of course, and things continued as usual. I'll never forget.

 

[Seeker]

No, Tea and Hamilton, the pagans are the only ones known to have ceremonies or rituals and magical harps, (google if you don't believe me) give gifts to ungrateful trees, etc. (At another forum McReynolds is quoted telling children he once gave a gift to a little tree which was ungrateful, was "bad", and the poster remarked that it seemed he wanted to be thought of as a God-like person, make sure they appreciated him. As always in the forums, it was just a subjective opinion.

I already have a general idea what the other religions are like, nothing really unusual, so will not have any reason to be checking them. Not saying it couldn't be a fallen Christian playing God who did the murder, of course. It could have been several people, from various religions and that might have nothing to do with it. The pagans' tendency to rituals possibly could have been taken advantage of by a false-Christian manipulater of people like Charles Manson, imo.

Well there you have it (see bolded). That other forum is probably making things up as they go along. As for Glick...well let's just say that rumors ran rampant about everyone in Boulder. There is no proof that Bill McReynolds owned a harp with children's names carved into it. Even if there were names carved into it, it doesn't mean they put there after they were dead. You don't carve the names into a harp (Pagan) other than to ask for protection/healing for that person. If you really want to know about Paganism then PM me. you know I've been one my whole life and we DO NOT sacrifice animals or children!!

The main reason McReynolds was cleared was because there was zero evidence to tie them to anything in the house.

 

[Seeker]

Since Daniel Glick told this to Jeff Shapiro, and the R's never that we know of ever said anything about it, nor did their "friends", I doubt it's hearsay.

It is hearsay! That's what hearsay is, when someone hears something second hand instead of directly from the person who said it.

If this has already been mentioned it's because I haven't gotten through any farther than the 1st page of this thread. Sorry if I'm repeating something someone else already posted.

 

[DeeDee249]

True. Pagan religions are nature-based. Not sacrifice-based. As is Wicca. The only faith I know of that presently uses sacrifice is Santeria. When I taught school in the 70's in a city with a large Cuban and Carribean population, I learned quite a bit about it.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

That answers something I had been wondering, thanks. I don't know a lot about paganism, but it was my understanding that it's a practice based in the idea of respect and thankfulness to Nature. I could be wrong, and I apologize if I am, but I did not think people practicing paganism today involved themselves in human sacrifice. At least not in the Boulder, Colorado area.

I was also wondering how the McRs possibly being pagan equates them needing a child to sacrifice.

And even if they did think they needed to sacrifice someone, I would expect them to revere the winter solstice on December 21-22 before they would a Christian holiday.

They cannot be placed in the Ramsey home on the night of 12/25/96. It wouldn't matter if they were the most faithful pagans on a list of hundreds of thousands, if you can't disprove their alibi, and you can't prove they were in the Ramsey house, with an opportunity to kill JonBenet, then you need to look for another suspect - like one of the people living in the house, whom we know were there when JonBenet was killed.

 

[Ames]

That answers something I had been wondering, thanks. I don't know a lot about paganism, but it was my understanding that it's a practice based in the idea of respect and thankfulness to Nature. I could be wrong, and I apologize if I am, but I did not think people practicing paganism today involved themselves in human sacrifice. At least not in the Boulder, Colorado area.

I was also wondering how the McRs possibly being pagan equates them needing a child to sacrifice.

And even if they did think they needed to sacrifice someone, I would expect them to revere the winter solstice on December 21-22 before they would a Christian holiday.

They cannot be placed in the Ramsey home on the night of 12/25/96. It wouldn't matter if they were the most faithful pagans on a list of hundreds of thousands, if you can't disprove their alibi, and you can't prove they were in the Ramsey house, with an opportunity to kill JonBenet, then you need to look for another suspect - like one of the people living in the house, whom we know were there when JonBenet was killed.

Right on. The person that killed JB, was living in the home with her. IMO

 

[Albert18]

... if you can't disprove their alibi, and you can't prove they were in the Ramsey house, with an opportunity to kill JonBenet, then you need to look for another suspect...

Absolutely, I don't think it is being very nice to constantly insinuate people who came into contact with JonBenet may have killed her when there is no reason to do so. JonBenet was killed in a very controlled environment and the two adults, who we know were there, can't keep their stories straight. Nobody should need any more evidence then that.

 

[Jayelles]

Patsy admired Priscilla's jacket and got herself a similar one (atlanta 2000 interview):-

9 Q. I would like you to give us a
10 little background on that coat, and again I
11 am not going to hold you to days of the
12 week, but do you recall, first of all, where
13 you purchased it?
14 A. Well, Priscilla had had one like
15 it that I admired. And she told me, I
16 believe she told me she got hers at EMS.
17 So I went there to look. And they didn't
18 have one or I didn't want to get one exactly
19 like hers. So I think I got that one at
20 Marshals in Boulder.

It's interesting that before this transcript was available, some people accused Priscilla of copying Patsy and being jealous of Patsy. Then we got the transcript and found out that it was Patsy who copied Priscilla!

The disussion at the other forum is highly speculative. One motive which has been offered for McSanta as perp is that he wanted fame and immortality.

 

[UKGuy]

We're all glad we weren't on the correct side of the mountain to see all that, I guess. Also I did read that the ancient celts/druids or whatever had sex games for their children, so they'd be ready when the time came. Will try to remember to give a link later if I printed that out and come across it. One of the members even said something about Santa possibly molesting JonBenet so that she didn't like him any more and tore up the Christmas card which was found in her wastebasket. I wouldn't know. Just passing on the speculation.

Eagle1,

The celts and the druids are the same thing. The druids are simply the religious caste.

The celts lived a communal life, generally, but not always, in singular round houses, usually accompanied by their livestock.


Your suggestion that they had sex games for their children is the first I've ever read about.

Their children would be exposed to nature red in tooth and claw, so sex would not be an unknown subject.

The celtic god cernunnos is the prototype for the christian devil, complete with horns, cloven feet and tail.


.

 

[Ames]

Patsy admired Priscilla's jacket and got herself a similar one (atlanta 2000 interview):-



It's interesting that before this transcript was available, some people accused Priscilla of copying Patsy and being jealous of Patsy. Then we got the transcript and found out that it was Patsy who copied Priscilla!

The disussion at the other forum is highly speculative. One motive which has been offered for McSanta as perp is that he wanted fame and immortality.

Isn't that the most ridiculous thing you have ever heard?? Poor McSanta..they need to just leave that poor man alone, may he rest in peace.

 

[Solace]

Isn't that the most ridiculous thing you have ever heard?? Poor McSanta..they need to just leave that poor man alone, may he rest in peace.

Especially since the man was a physical mess any which way you look at it. He would have to be incredible not to have left one of those Santa hairs lying around.

 

[Ames]

Especially since the man was a physical mess any which way you look at it. He would have to be incredible not to have left one of those Santa hairs lying around.

Not only that, but he was at the White's christmas party. And in order for him to have had the time needed to have written that practice ransom note, and the finished product....plus find the rope, tape, etc. He would have had to leave the White's party pretty doggone early...and lets not forget enough time to SQUEEZE through that basement window. And I do believe that everyone, especially the children, would have noticed if Santa had of left early.

 

[Solace]

Not only that, but he was at the White's christmas party. And in order for him to have had the time needed to have written that practice ransom note, and the finished product....plus find the rope, tape, etc. He would have had to leave the White's party pretty doggone early...and lets not forget enough time to SQUEEZE through that basement window. And I do believe that everyone, especially the children, would have noticed if Santa had of left early.

You would think - since he was wearing a Santa Claus suit. And he was really excellent at throwing his body around if he did this because he did not even disturb that pesky spiderweb. And how old was he, sixty something?

 

[JMO8778]

Not only that, but he was at the White's christmas party. And in order for him to have had the time needed to have written that practice ransom note, and the finished product....plus find the rope, tape, etc. He would have had to leave the White's party pretty doggone early...and lets not forget enough time to SQUEEZE through that basement window. And I do believe that everyone, especially the children, would have noticed if Santa had of left early.

was he at the White's party? I thought he was only at the one on the 23rd at the R's house,and the White's on the 25th was just their own family and friends.

 

[Solace]

was he at the White's party? I thought he was only at the one on the 23rd at the R's house,and the White's on the 25th was just their own family and friends.

You may be right. But he had hair down to his knees practically and one of those hairs is going to be left by him if he were there.

 

[JMO8778]

You may be right. But he had hair down to his knees practically and one of those hairs is going to be left by him if he were there.

I agree,that beard was way too bushy for him not to have left a trace if he was there.

 

[DeeDee249]

Not to mention how difficult it would be for someone of his size and physical condition to shimmy through that window. (not breaking the spider web, of course, in THE DARK). Climb the 3 flights of spiral stairs, grab JBR and somehow disable her and carry her back down those 3 flights of spiral stairs (pausing to rouse her from her unconscious state to snack on pineapple), strangle, assault, bash her skull in, redress her (going back up those stairs to find other panties, shirts, etc) then after going BACK up to the kitchen for the paper and marker to write the 3-page note, going back to the basement, dragging a 45 lb dead child into the wineceller, magically pulling a chair behind himself AFTER he closed the train room door, then hauling his 250+lb self UP the wall, carefully balancing on a suitcase, as he shimmied up the wall and squeezed himself out through that same small window, then climbed up and out the window grate, replace it (it looks HEAVY) and still careful not to disturb the spider web (in THE DARK after all).All the while not leaving a single hair, thread, fingerprint (or gloveprint). WHEW! It was exhusting to write it. I can't imagine how exhausting it was to do it.