Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #3

[Blue_Dolphin308]

If true, this is huge news and a step back in the search. Please provide a link for proof.

It was just on CNN tv. No link as of yet, but expert did say the above

 

[Waddles]

oh man, if that's not it then what happened to this plane!!

 

[Softail]

BOEING EXPERTS STATE 13x18, 14x19 and 24x22 (meters) WOULD NOT BE OF A BROKEN UP 777 in ocean

When posting something as fact, a link needs to be provided. :tyou:

 

[SapphireSteel]

Three possibilities

It exploded mid air with such force it disintegrated
It was driven into the sea, by conscious or unconscious act
It was landed heroically but sunk anyway, more or less whole.

If the last is correct we may have survivors.

It all depends on the final transmissions.

Also, if folks knew they were going down, surely phonecalls were made and SMS sent?

Could they trace from final pings or were they too remote?

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

When posting something as fact, a link needs to be provided. :tyou:

I cannot post a link if there is none. This was just reported on CNN

 

[PrairieWind]

Three possibilities

It exploded mid air with such force it disintegrated
It was driven into the sea, by conscious or unconscious act
It was landed heroically but sunk anyway, more or less whole.

If the last is correct we may have survivors.

It all depends on the final transmissions.

Also, if folks knew they were going down, surely phonecalls were made and SMS sent?

Could they trace from final pings or were they too remote?

There would have been no way for anyone to use a cell phone out there. A sat phone perhaps, but not cellular.

 

[Tssiemer]

Three possibilities

It exploded mid air with such force it disintegrated
It was driven into the sea, by conscious or unconscious act
It was landed heroically but sunk anyway, more or less whole.

If the last is correct we may have survivors.

It all depends on the final transmissions.

Also, if folks knew they were going down, surely phonecalls were made and SMS sent?

Could they trace from final pings or were they too remote?

No cell towers and the plane was not equipped with capability for cell phones to work.

But I do have a question, do planes still have phones on the seats you can with a credit card to use? Like on United 93 during 9/11.


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[Little Jedi]

When posting something as fact, a link needs to be provided. :tyou:

CNN
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/12/w...nes-plane/index.html?c=intl-homepage-t&page=2

 

[MsFacetious]

I cannot post a link if there is none. This was just reported on CNN

When I am watching live I post it like this:

Being reported now, live on CNN by a Boeing Expert........
Then people know the source and why there isn't a link. :seeya:

 

[MsFacetious]

This is from The Star, I know it is not MSM, but they are saying that there is a shoe bomber link to the missing Malaysian plane

I posted this earlier but if you google "Malaysia shoe bomber" there appears to be more articles:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-ghaith-trial-20140311,0,6412230.story#ixzz2vm9diS00

Asked by defense attorney Stanley Cohen how he traveled with the shoe bombs, Badat replied that he simply wore them. On his way back to London from Afghanistan, Badat said he gave one of his shoes to a Malaysian terrorist cell plotting its own airline attack.

It was unclear whether that group, which Badat said included a pilot, ever attempted to bring down a jet using the device.

 

[Little Jedi]

Seems 'the experts' are contradicting each other now !!

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/12/w...nes-plane/index.html?c=intl-homepage-t&page=2

 

[Tssiemer]

Suns coming up over there. Strap in for another day of (no) news.


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[21merc7]

This link may help understanding the reasons in trying to find, trying to explain, also includes text of what is being said:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...is-military-secrecy-hampering-the-search.html

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

But not every expert was convinced this is it. Clive Irving, a senior editor with Conde Nast Traveler, said that the size of the pieces -- since they are fairly square and big -- "don't conform to anything that's on the plane."

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/12/w...nes-plane/index.html?c=intl-homepage-t&page=2

 

[Tssiemer]

Has anyone said which way the currents run in that part of the ocean? Google is not helping me.


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[momrids6]

But not every expert was convinced this is it. Clive Irving, a senior editor with Conde Nast Traveler, said that the size of the pieces -- since they are fairly square and big -- "don't conform to anything that's on the plane."

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/12/w...nes-plane/index.html?c=intl-homepage-t&page=2

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6020112/#283 reply 307

 

[Boodles]

Erin Burnett (CNN) just said Malaysia has not been given the images by China yet, per Malaysian government. :facepalm:

I WOULD HOPE SOMEONE IS ON THEIR WAY TO THE COORDINATES INDICATED IN THE IMAGES.

The word cluster**** comes to mind. Makes you wanna scream!!

Where's a project executive when you need one? Someone needs to get in charge and coordinate everything!

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

BOEING EXPERTS STATE 13x18, 14x19 and 24x22 (meters) WOULD NOT BE OF A BROKEN UP 777 in ocean

According to the professional pilot sites a "777" is not the same as this plane, which was a "777 200 ER". (Not that I would know the difference, lol.)

In any case, not quite sure why pieces of a destroyed plane couldn't be smaller than the plane itself (or even be floating in an overlapping mess that defies identifiable shapes from blurry satellite pics).

 

[ilovepierre]

Three possibilities

It exploded mid air with such force it disintegrated
It was driven into the sea, by conscious or unconscious act
It was landed heroically but sunk anyway, more or less whole.

If the last is correct we may have survivors.

It all depends on the final transmissions.

Also, if folks knew they were going down, surely phonecalls were made and SMS sent?

Could they trace from final pings or were they too remote?

The plane was not equipped with the technology to enable cell phone or Internet usage.

Also, this was a night flight. The majority of the people on board were probably sleeping. Whatever happened, happened fast. By the time anyone really knew what was going on, it would have been too late.

 

[Softail]

CNN
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/12/w...nes-plane/index.html?c=intl-homepage-t&page=2

This article doesn't say for sure it is not the plane. It has people giving opinions:

"I think the size of the pieces ... everything we've heard... gives good cause to believe that we've now (refocused) the area," former Federal Aviation Administration official Michael Goldfarb told CNN. "And that's a huge relief to everybody ... I think it's a high chance that they're going to confirm that these (are) pieces of the wreckage."

But not every expert was convinced this is it. Clive Irving, a senior editor with Conde Nast Traveler, said that the size of the pieces -- since they are fairly square and big -- "don't conform to anything that's on the plane."

Regardless, time is of the essence -- both for investigators and the loved ones of the plane's 239 passengers and crew, who have waited since Saturday for any breakthrough that would provide closure


I think at this point, they still could be pieces of the plane. I suppose we just have to wait and see. :twocents:

:sigh: