Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #3

[kai]

"All passengers checked in. All luggage was on board"

Checking in and actually getting on the plane are two different things IMO.

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[popsicle]

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...-recruitment-witch-doctor-track-missing-plane

a witch doctor?

Jamil Khir Baharom, a minister in the Malaysian Prime Minister’s Department, had earlier said the government welcomed any help in tracing missing flight MH370, including that from bomohs, as long as their methods did not contravene the practices of Islam, Free Malaysia Today reported.

 

[CARIIS]

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...-recruitment-witch-doctor-track-missing-plane

a witch doctor?

Would it not be a HOOT if the witch doc finds the plane ha!

 

[popsicle]

Would it not be a HOOT if the witch doc finds the plane ha!

In the sea or in the air?

 

[belimom]

Would it not be a HOOT if the witch doc finds the plane ha!

That made me laugh out loud! Wouldn't that be something? :floorlaugh:

 

[CARIIS]

I have no problem with them adding a witch doctor, if that's their belief system. But for heaven's sake, use some modern technology also. Vietnam and China have done a lot, as have other countries...

And, the witch doctor said this (from the link above):



Um, it is no longer in the air. Four days later. It's just...not.

Loved your use of ........

 

[belimom]

In the sea or in the air?

If he finds it in the air, I'm converting.

 

[Elley Mae]

:drumroll:

“I think the plane is still in the air or has crashed into the sea,” he was quoted by Free Malaysia Today as saying.

:facepalm:

I'll wait for option 3. Witch doctor? What year is it over there?

 

[Aviator]

This is what we are looking for, unfortunately it's a search for these devices ultimately. Air France 447 took 2 1/2 years to find, so wouldn't be surprised if this takes longer.

These are the 777's Flight Recorders, made by Honeywell and are Solid State Memory.

 

[momrids6]

Maybe I'm assuming too much, but I did believe that Malaysian Airlines was tracking the plane also, with their own system. These civilian websites that track just have subscriptions to a service (or something like that) and then publish the data on their own website/platform. But does it actually say somewhere that they didn't track it also? If so, I didn't realize that.

The military and civilian radar tracked it

 

[K_Z]

A couple more days like this could be great. We are doing time travel BACKWARDS -- once we hit Firday -just like plane- poof- it never vanished---works for me u?!

Breaking news.

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. A high ranking Malaysian authority, speaking on condition of anonymity, announced today that the Malaysian Government is unable to locate Friday, March 7, 2014. Despite substantial multinational assistance, authorities are also unable to locate their posteriors using both hands, and remain unable to collectively navigate their way out of paper bags.

This is a breaking story.

:facepalm:

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Im on Tomnod this morning and what I am finding is the lack of boats.. I mean where is everyone? Did people just stop looking?

 

[belimom]

The military and civilian radar tracked it

Correct, but wasn't Malaysian Air following it on their own system also?

 

[belimom]

Im on Tomnod this morning and what I am finding is the lack of boats.. I mean where is everyone? Did people just stop looking?

The TomNod I'm looking at says the images are from March 9... I think they're showing times closer to when the plane disappeared. But I'm not that familiar with TomNod - correct me if I'm wrong because I'm going off the data in the bottom right corner.

 

[kai]

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/arti...-recruitment-witch-doctor-track-missing-plane

a witch doctor?

Oooh eee ooh ahh ahh ting tang wallah wallah bing bang....

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[Boodles]

Changing thoughts.....

First I thought hijack. Then I thought cover-up of a military SNAFU. Either way, some surreptitious conspiracy.

Now I think it's just incompetence of the airline and government. It appears they weren't paying attention, something went horribly wrong, and the fact of the matter is they (Malaysia) don't know what happened or where the plane was last spotted. And they're trying to save face to the world. They're not being malicious or intentionally obfuscating...they just don't know so they're (quietly, to searching entities) pointing left and right, up and down. Now, this morning, they admit to needing expert help.

My heart breaks for the loved ones of the crew and passengers. What torture not knowing. I had been holding out hope of a hijack with survivors, but that plane had to have gone down. JMO.

 

[Softail]

Wow! I thought for sure after I left yesterday, I would come back to see they had been found. Seemed so promising. This is just bizarro world.

 

[popsicle]

David KaminskiMorrow ‏@FlightDKM 33m
If #MH370 was capable of flying at FL295 over Malacca, 45min after loss of contact, I'd be staggered if it came down anywhere near Malaysia.


David KaminskiMorrow ‏@FlightDKM 3h
Air force chief mentions "unidentified plot" on primary radar at FL295, 200nm NW of Penang, but states: "We're not saying it's #MH370."

David KaminskiMorrow ‏@FlightDKM 3h
Distance between last known contact with #MH370 and air force's unidentified plot, 45min away, is some 350nm.

David KaminskiMorrow ‏@FlightDKM 2h
@riddlegrad Assuming they've ruled out the SIA 777 at FL300... pic.twitter.com/m9bWUBnBHa

https://twitter.com/FlightDKM

He has some interesting tweets going on. Air transport editor for Flight International

 

[JerseyGirl]

This is what we are looking for, unfortunately it's a search for these devices ultimately. Air France 447 took 2 1/2 years to find, so wouldn't be surprised if this takes longer.

These are the 777's Flight Recorders, made by Honeywell and are Solid State Memory.

Please, they can't even find the plane or even know which direction it took. lol.

 

[CARIIS]

Maybe I'm assuming too much, but I did believe that Malaysian Airlines was tracking the plane also, with their own system. These civilian websites that track just have subscriptions to a service (or something like that) and then publish the data on their own website/platform. But does it actually say somewhere that they didn't track it also? If so, I didn't realize that.

Aviation buff since childhood. From the VERY beginning, the first hour it broke it hit me as so odd.

Cockpits have telephone where crew can call their homebase and gett engineers on the phone when they are trying to solve a problem and the checklist isnt doing anything or they cant find a checklist for the set of issues they are expericing .

If one goes back to that first hour (it kept on going for a day and a half) the AIRLINE said it has lost contact with the flight. It was not ATC informing the airline that they lost contact with the airlines flight number bla blabla

It would typically be the other way around ATC would be the one who CONTACTED the airline to report that THEY have lost the transponder for their flight # bla bla

The order is backwards - it is ATC , that in any arena, ought to be the first to know that the RADAR track on a commerical plane is lost it is their entire function to monitor via RADAR aircraft transversing the globe.

The fact that the ATC tapes themselves have not been released at this point is not typical at all - they are usually the first thing released because at the onset of a aviation incident they are the only thing that can give investigators, the airline, the public some sense if all was normal prior to event. 5 days out-- no ATC tapes both transcripted and released to media its not correct.

The CVR (Cockpit Voice Recorder) tapes , even when found soon are often held back months, especially when cockpit crews have been killed out of respect. But Air Traffic CONTROL tapes are, not only the first thing pulled (step one in ANY aviation mishap) but released quickly.

Asiana crashed on July 6; WIthin 48 hours the ATC recorders were all over the internet:
Asiana Airlines 214 ATC Recording with Transcript [HD] - YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFoejJ-aCpw‎
Jul 8, 2013 - Uploaded by TomCook1993



The public (I have done it) can pick up a control tower to listen to:
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http://www.liveatc.net/
[ame="http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=695812"]Asiana 214 flight crew talking on ATC tape. Anyone know what he's saying? - Straight Dope Message Board[/ame]

Now! If the cockpit voice recorder is ever found from that we would know if the crew were talking to their engineers brainstorming! Whew!