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Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #3
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Does anyone here remember how this missing plane was first discovered? Did air traffic control report it to the airline? Was it reported immediately and by what party to what party? Was there a long time lag?
How was the missing flight first discovered?
If I ever knew, I have forgotten...:blushing:
Ok, well maybe never mind, if Wikipedia is reliable...sounds like ATC told Malaysia Airlines. Big gaps between events it appears. Jeez.
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Malaysia Airlines issued a media statement at 07:24 confirming that contact had been lost at 02:40 and that search-and-rescue operations had begun.[10] It later emerged that Subang Air Traffic Control had lost contact with the aircraft at 01:22 and notified Malaysia Airlines at 02:40.[11] Neither the crew nor the aircraft's onboard communication systems relayed a distress signal, indications of bad weather, or technical problems before vanishing from radar screens.[12] The airline reported in its eleventh press release that all its aircraft are fitted with Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS), a system that automatically transmits data about the status of the aircraft, but added "Nevertheless, there were no distress calls and no information was relayed."[13]
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370"]Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
How was the missing flight first discovered?
If I ever knew, I have forgotten...:blushing:
Ok, well maybe never mind, if Wikipedia is reliable...sounds like ATC told Malaysia Airlines. Big gaps between events it appears. Jeez.
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Malaysia Airlines issued a media statement at 07:24 confirming that contact had been lost at 02:40 and that search-and-rescue operations had begun.[10] It later emerged that Subang Air Traffic Control had lost contact with the aircraft at 01:22 and notified Malaysia Airlines at 02:40.[11] Neither the crew nor the aircraft's onboard communication systems relayed a distress signal, indications of bad weather, or technical problems before vanishing from radar screens.[12] The airline reported in its eleventh press release that all its aircraft are fitted with Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS), a system that automatically transmits data about the status of the aircraft, but added "Nevertheless, there were no distress calls and no information was relayed."[13]
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370"]Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
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See the first post of this thread. Malaysia Airlines reported it.
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The Boeing 777 that went missing after taking off from Malaysia on Saturday was "airworthy", Malaysia's head of civil aviation has insisted, as questions emerged over whether Malaysia Airlines had heeded warnings about potential problems on that model of plane.
Last November, the United States' Federal Aviation Administration told airlines around the world they should examine Boeing 777's for cracking or corrosion under the fuselage skin. Such corrosion, if left unfixed, "could lead to rapid decompression and loss of structural integrity of the aeroplane," the FAA said, in a so-called AD or Airworthiness Directive.
On Wednesday, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, the director general of Malaysia's Department of Civil Aviation, said Malaysia Airlines had received and acted upon the directive, which warned of a potential weak spot in Boeing 777s that could lead to the "loss of structural integrity of the aircraft."
Ahmad Jauhari Yahya, the CEO of Malaysia Airlines, also insisted his company had received and acted on the directive.
"On this specific plane I will have to check on the record but as a policy Malaysia Airlines ensures that all its fleet complies with the ADs and SBS issued by the manufacturer," he said.
Mr Rahman said he was not worried at how the Malaysia Airlines' CEO had not been able to guarantee that the missing plane had been inspected for the potential problem.
"I'm not worried because he is the CEO, he is up there. You don't expect [him] to be micromanaging."
On Tuesday, a Malaysia Airlines spokesman said the missing aircraft had been serviced on February 23, with further maintenance scheduled for June 19.
The company did not reply to written questions about if and when the missing aircraft had been checked for the specific problem highlighted by the FAA.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...urveyed-for-potentially-dangerous-cracks.html
Last November, the United States' Federal Aviation Administration told airlines around the world they should examine Boeing 777's for cracking or corrosion under the fuselage skin. Such corrosion, if left unfixed, "could lead to rapid decompression and loss of structural integrity of the aeroplane," the FAA said, in a so-called AD or Airworthiness Directive.
On Wednesday, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, the director general of Malaysia's Department of Civil Aviation, said Malaysia Airlines had received and acted upon the directive, which warned of a potential weak spot in Boeing 777s that could lead to the "loss of structural integrity of the aircraft."
Ahmad Jauhari Yahya, the CEO of Malaysia Airlines, also insisted his company had received and acted on the directive.
"On this specific plane I will have to check on the record but as a policy Malaysia Airlines ensures that all its fleet complies with the ADs and SBS issued by the manufacturer," he said.
Mr Rahman said he was not worried at how the Malaysia Airlines' CEO had not been able to guarantee that the missing plane had been inspected for the potential problem.
"I'm not worried because he is the CEO, he is up there. You don't expect [him] to be micromanaging."
On Tuesday, a Malaysia Airlines spokesman said the missing aircraft had been serviced on February 23, with further maintenance scheduled for June 19.
The company did not reply to written questions about if and when the missing aircraft had been checked for the specific problem highlighted by the FAA.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...urveyed-for-potentially-dangerous-cracks.html
Does anyone know if its a requirement that pilots and air traffic controllers around the world speak English in addition to their native tongue? Just wondered, not going anywhere with that thought.
David KaminskiMorrow ‏@FlightDKM 4h
Current combined search area for #MH370 is more than five times larger than search area for #AF447.
David KaminskiMorrow ‏@FlightDKM 3h
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Primary search zone for #AF447 was a circle of 40nm radius. That's half the size of Belgium. Puts the #MH370 task in context.@FlightDKM At the last press conf the Msia Minister cited 27,000nm search area, if I heard correctly thru the noises. David KaminskiMorrow ‏@FlightDKM 3h
Yes. That's an area about the size of Portugal.
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Hey I am not picky---Mars works for me U?!!!!!!
lease: they make it home some way.. like you.
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Has anyone other than family members mentioned the phones ringing and ringing? To me, I'd like an independent source for that. Would be nice if one of the intelligence agencies from one of the countries were to call up several of those phones and see what is going on.
I just joined the thread but I've been following the news, so sorry if that's been covered. TIA
I just joined the thread but I've been following the news, so sorry if that's been covered. TIA
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Could there be a link between the missing plane and the NYC building explosion? :waitasec:
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Correct, but wasn't Malaysian Air following it on their own system also?
May be wrong here, but i do not belieeve each carrier follows each flight on its own radar systems - think of the expense . And that is what ATC job is to keep planes from crashing into one another!
The dispatch offices for each carrier are focused on gate assignment, connections, catering, fueling, weather,crew scheduling problems etc.
I do not think they actually track after pushback from gate.
May be wrong here, but i do not belieeve each carrier follows each flight on its own radar systems - think of the expense . And that is what ATC job is to keep planes from crashing into one another!
The dispatch offices for each carrier are focused on gate assignment, connections, catering, fueling, weather,crew scheduling problems etc.
I do not think they actually track after pushback from gate.
The airlines said they too had called the flight crew and their phones just rang.
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My thoughts, too...
In fact... If there is a body... And it is not from the plane... That is pretty frightening in itself!
No, I don't.
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No. It's a gas leak.
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My thoughts, too...
In fact... If there is a body... And it is not from the plane... That is pretty frightening in itself!
Real frightening esp. if it was wearing a life jacket!
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The only thing more interesting is...
If this witch doctor finds the plane after umpteen countries and their governments have not, so far...
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