Malaysia Flight MH17 shot down in Ukraine. 298 aboard. 7/17/2014 - #3

[Isabelle]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rges-jewellery-handed-rebel-defence-fund.html

Damning evidence of looting at MH17 crash site grows:
Relatives claim victims' phones are answered by 'eastern Europeans', as rebel leader Igor orders troops to hand over seized jewellery for 'defence fund'

'Defence fund '???

 

[SouthAussie]

THE HAGUE, July 25 — The Netherlands is sending 40 unarmed police to the crash site of flight MH17 in rebel-held Ukraine and seeking means to “further stabilise the area”, Prime Minister Mark Rutte said yesterday.

“We’re examining means to further stabilise the surroundings... it requires international discussions, it requires a legal mandate,” Rutte said, amid growing concern that the site has not been secured and all of the 298 bodies, most of them Dutch, not recovered.

“It’s absolutely not certain that this is all going to work. It’s very complex and requires many partners,” Rutte told journalists

http://www.themalaymailonline.com/m...o-secure-mh17-crash-site#sthash.2zzfQ2wx.dpuf

 

[BJsleuth]

Have any of the leaders (Rutte, Abbott etc) tried communicating directly with Borodai? I know Malaysia did and they secured return of the black boxes. Is there anything preventing any of the other from doing that?
http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2014/07/23/borodai-ask-anything-return-say-malaysian-negotiators/

 

[gramcracker]

... Dempsey revealed that the Pentagon is already looking at possible U.S. and NATO military responses to Russia’s aggressive actions against Ukraine ...

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/uk...-dempsey-putin-may-light-fire-he-cant-n164586

 

[geevee]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/uk...-dempsey-putin-may-light-fire-he-cant-n164586

From above article:

"In an appearance before the Aspen Institute, Dempsey said Putin’s decision to launch artillery strikes across the border into Ukraine has changed the entire equation and relationship between Russia and the United States and Europe."
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This sounds very bad.

 

[kimi_SFC]

Tweet from @CNBC - 3m

Obama: #MH17 tragedy "may stiffen the spine of our European partners moving forward" regarding Russia sanctions. » http://t.co/o6Sp5H0Ee5

http://twitter.com/CNBC/status/492542581059125248



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[kimi_SFC]

Tweet from @CBSEveningNews - 6h

About a mile from the main #MH17 crash site, inspectors came across a huge piece of fuselage they haven't seen before

http://t.co/CD7P2BkDDT

http://twitter.com/CBSEveningNews/status/492542549085945856



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[kimi_SFC]

Tweet from @WSJ - 30m

"Shrapnel-like" holes found on plane suggest #MH17 was downed by a missile http://t.co/CC8S2QhNSr

http://t.co/nIiM5TTSqc

http://twitter.com/WSJ/status/492542541578133504




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[kimi_SFC]

Tweet from @909SeaFM - 24m

Australian soldiers to assist #AFP in securing #MH17 crash site in #Ukraine. #newsfeed #live

http://twitter.com/909SeaFM/status/492542536691367939



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[kimi_SFC]

Tweet from @airlivenet - 5h

Sad have reported that 668 passengers and 37 crews lost their lives in 2014 #MH370 #MH17 #GE222 #AH5017

http://t.co/th3DGofGnJ

http://twitter.com/airlivenet/status/492542533302353921

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[geevee]

A bit more from Gen. Dempsey speaking at a security forum in Aspen:

Russian military likely reluctant participants in Ukraine-US general


(Reuters) - Russia's military is likely a reluctant participant in Ukraine's conflict, the top U.S. military officer said on Thursday, adding that although he had not spoken to his Moscow counterpart in about two months he was keeping an open line of communication.

"I think the Russian military and its leaders that I know are probably somewhat reluctant participants in this form of warfare," General Martin Dempsey said, noting Russia's use of both conventional forces along the border and of proxies inside the country.


http://in.reuters.com/article/2014/07/25/ukraine-crisis-usa-dempsey-idINL2N0Q007O20140725

 

[BJsleuth]

I live near an Australian Army Base and I can tell you that troops were mobilised yesterday and are standing by to deploy.


http://www.afr.com/p/world/australian_troops_may_deploy_to_8rCAMkqsLVXnjH5a89o31O

 

[BJsleuth]

Prime Minister of Australia Tony Abbott has just announced a small number of armed troops are being deployed to secure MH17 site.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ainian-site-of-mh17-crash-20140725-3ck94.html

 

[BJsleuth]

A five nation coalition lead by the Dutch, including Australia, Germany, Malaysia and Britain will send armed troops to back up security at MH17 crash site. Australia will send more Federal Police to assist as well.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...rces-to-secure-crash-site-20140725-3cj24.html

 

[SouthAussie]

A five nation coalition lead by the Dutch, including Australia, Germany, Malaysia and Britain will send armed troops to back up security at MH17 crash site. Australia will send more Federal Police to assist as well.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...rces-to-secure-crash-site-20140725-3cj24.html

:gasp: Oh boy ... here we go. Let's hope the strategy works, and that "his excellency Mr Borodai" (and the Russians who are firing over the border) will just back off and let us gather all remaining bodies, investigate, and remove the plane and its parts. :crossfingers:

I notice in the article that you linked above ...

Mr Houston has reportedly told Prime Minister Tony Abbott that an international investigation of the full crash site covering as much as 50 square kilometres was needed to ensure all human remains were recovered.

And .....

We must secure the site of the crash,” Ms Bishop said. “We must ensure that the investigators and those that have the gruesome task of identifying body remains are able to do that in safety, unfettered without any tampering from anyone.”

http://www.afr.com/p/world/australian_troops_may_deploy_to_8rCAMkqsLVXnjH5a89o31O

 

[SouthAussie]

I guess something decisive had to happen, and happen soon. Even the Ukraine emergency services have been sent from the site.

'They took away our tents, the ones which were at our base camp,' Serhiy Bochkovsky, the head of the emergencies service, told a news conference in the eastern city of Kharkiv from where the remains of the victims are starting their journey home.
'We were allowed only our equipment and machinery and we were chased away at gunpoint.'
He did not say when this happened.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-passenger-jet-MH17-WEEK-downed-Ukraine.html

 

[SouthAussie]

Vladimir Putin employs a full-time food taster to ensure his meals aren't poisoned

"If you were Vladimir Putin, you could be forgiven for feeling a little paranoid right now, as the Western world takes turns to blame, excoriate, vilify and condemn you over the Malaysian airline disaster. You might well wonder whether a bullet, a Jiffy bag full of ricin or a lunchtime polonium sandwich were most likely to be the means of your imminent dispatch from this life. So it's no surprise to learn that the Russian president employs a professional food taster on his full-time staff.

The news emerged from this week's meeting in London of the Club des Chefs des Chefs, the members of which prepare meals for heads of state and world leaders."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-ensure-his-meals-arent-poisoned-9624380.html

 

[BJsleuth]

:gasp: Oh boy ... here we go. Let's hope the strategy works, and that "his excellency Mr Borodai" (and the Russians who are firing over the border) will just back off and let us gather all remaining bodies, investigate, and remove the plane and its parts. :crossfingers:

I notice in the article that you linked above ...

Mr Houston has reportedly told Prime Minister Tony Abbott that an international investigation of the full crash site covering as much as 50 square kilometres was needed to ensure all human remains were recovered.

And .....

We must secure the site of the crash,” Ms Bishop said. “We must ensure that the investigators and those that have the gruesome task of identifying body remains are able to do that in safety, unfettered without any tampering from anyone.”

http://www.afr.com/p/world/australian_troops_may_deploy_to_8rCAMkqsLVXnjH5a89o31O

Yes, its a worry! Hopefully they can get in, get it done and get out again ASAP.

 

[zwiebel]

'Vladimir Putin’s daughter has fled her Dutch home as fury grows over Flight mH17.

Maria Putin lived just 20 miles from the airport where the doomed jet departed from.

News that the Russian president's daughter was living among a nation of people still fuming over Russia’s role in the downing of Flight MH17 was only going to spark more outrage.'

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/flight-mh17-vladimir-putins-daughter-3909500#ixzz38T5zSSDI

 

[drsleuth]

Yes, its a worry! Hopefully they can get in, get it done and get out again ASAP.

Please let everyone be safe & stay safe :scared::scared: