Found Deceased Malaysia - Nora Quoirin, 15, from UK, special needs, missing on vacation, Seremban, 4 Aug 2019 #1

[Officer Dibble]

I had given up all hope for this girl until I read the reviews. Now I’m leaning to something more sinister but promising for his girl. I will let you guys read the reviews and decide but a totally different vibe now

I had the same feeling. I can't understand people saying they have read everything - sometimes something alarming can be in the midst of a good review too.

 

[Officer Dibble]

whats teh date of the review for that one?

I'm not going to trawl through them all again to find you a date, sorry. You will have to trawl yourself. We are unfortunately not allowed to give any info about TA. We can only refer to it generally. We don't want this thread closed down. I've been on threads where some major turn of events has happened and one person violating the rules shut it down for days on end. So frustrating. Sorry. xx

Meanwhile, its really worrying me now that Nora is no-where to be seen. I do wish we knew what the timeline of the family movements and who they spoke to etc on their arrival that day. It would really help. Including any taxi conversations.

 

[Officer Dibble]

If she did exit via the window, i think more likely to get away from something or someone inside rather than be lured outside .Argument with a sibling? Seems strange to me that early reports suggested a sibling said she went out of the window and now lawyers preventing siblings being spoken to. I am not implying they harmed her. Do the family then think she was taken from outside? All just thoughts going through my head. I pray for Nora and her family.

You make some valid points here

 

[Ruthbullock]

From a parents point of view, I completely understand why they are saying abduction- anyone of a certain age will understand that as it’s seen as one of the key missing investigations early on from the Mccanns. But also from a psychological point of view- it is attributing guilty feelings elsewhere. If you accept immediately that your child may have wandered off- you then feel an enormous sense of guilt, far bigger than if something underhand is involved that is out of your control. Still devastating, but out of your control.
If we consider she wandered off, then why? Did she see one of the wandering dogs and think it may be lost so try to catch it (not realising they wander around the resort), did she feel hungry and attempt to walk to the dining hub and get disorientated and lose her way (I have got lost as an adult in really simply laid out resorts which just involve pathways, never mind a spread out jungle area).

 

[Officer Dibble]

I forgot to add a source for the photo so my post was removed. Here is the link with the photo
Malaysian police searching for missing London teenager | Daily Mail Online

I must admit that window does look easy to climb out of

 

[Jealoushe]

I'm not going to trawl through them all again to find you a date, sorry. You will have to trawl yourself.

Sorry another poster had mentioned a date so I have read those, and most others. Thanks

 

[Blamhappy]

Her fear of being alone or going outside unaccompanied, makes me think she may have exited close to sunrise. I think someone upthread said that was shortly after 7am, so if she woke up at 5 or 6, it would have been dawn and maybe with a bit of light she would have been okay with creeping out of a window? If the window suggestion came from her sibling, and this seems born out by prints on and around the window, then it seems maybe the sibling could be able to shed more light?

How terribly traumatizing for them all. Her parents must be in pieces.

I’m pretty sure the sibling would have alerted the parents if she’d seen Nora exit the house. Thus, I assume she guessed.

 

[Skigh]

Could it be the sibling exited with Nora and lost Nora and is now too scared to say anything.

 

[MrsBalloon]

Could it be the sibling exited with Nora and lost Nora and is now too scared to say anything.

Yes, and if that is the case the police would have found the siblings’ finger/foot prints around the window as well as outside.

 

[Jmckelly]

Could it be the sibling exited with Nora and lost Nora and is now too scared to say anything.

That crossed my mind too

 

[Elainera]

it makes sense until you read how she is so shy and timid and needs people with her....that makes me think no way would she go out by her own

unless she was maybe sleepwalking...doubtful

Or maybe she thought the window is the bathroom door?

I think someone upthread said that was shortly after 7am, so if she woke up at 5 or 6, it would have been dawn

Dawn is very short at this latitude, about half an hour. So it would start getting light after 6.30 am.

Sunrise in Bali is at 6:30 am, according to weather.com

Sunrise in Malaysia is currently at 7.12 am.

 

[Simply Southern]

I find this very distressing ... There is a 2 page letter issued by DIG of PM wish it was translated....

Deputy Inspector-General of Police of Malaysia: No criminal element detected in Nora Quoirin’s disappearance and the case is classified as a “missing person” investigation. The public is advised not to spread false information about her case.

Sumisha Naidu on Twitter

 

[Elainera]

Could it be the sibling exited with Nora and lost Nora and is now too scared to say anything.

Good thought!

 

[Elainera]

I find this very distressing ... There is a 2 page letter issued by DIG of PM wish it was translated....

Deputy Inspector-General of Police of Malaysia: No criminal element detected in Nora Quoirin’s disappearance and the case is classified as a “missing person” investigation. The public is advised not to spread false information about her case.

Sumisha Naidu on Twitter

That's from two days ago though.

 

[Simply Southern]

BBC update on the police search for #Nora (2300 local time) #FindNora #FindingNora #NoraQuoirin

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Howard Johnson on Twitter

Thanks for posting. It shows how very dark the area is.

Just checked there was a new moon on Aug. 4th. It would have been totally dark outside.

Moon Phases 2019 – Lunar Calendar for Kuala Lumpur, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

 

[HayLouise]

RTÉ's @jackiefox_ reports from Malaysia on the search for Nóra Quoirin

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RTÉ News on Twitter

 

[Simply Southern]

That's from two days ago though.

They are still treating as a missing person per this reporter....

RTÉ's @jackiefox_ reports from Malaysia on the search for Nóra Quoirin

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RTÉ News on Twitter

 

[Skigh]

I do not suspect the parents in any way either. I really do not like Nora being connected to the McCann case and I was wondering why this was being connected.

 

[Simply Southern]

If she did exit via the window, i think more likely to get away from something or someone inside rather than be lured outside .Argument with a sibling? Seems strange to me that early reports suggested a sibling said she went out of the window and now lawyers preventing siblings being spoken to. I am not implying they harmed her. Do the family then think she was taken from outside? All just thoughts going through my head. I pray for Nora and her family.

I've pondered the question about if any of the children have information. JMO and thoughts....

The family is so distraught they can't speak publicly. Most of us have a sister or brother. No matter how hard I try to convince myself the sister knows something and is not speaking up, I can't. We lost a niece, it was horrific, my sister and brother in law did go on TV per LR request and beg the public to help. She spoke, as he sobbed uncontrollably at her side. If any of her sibling had any knowledge I believe in my heart they would have spoken up, to see your parents in this situation is unimaginable.

JMO, LE is hanging onto the missing person theory. We do not have privy to the terms and conditions the children were questioned under. The parents are doing everything, pulling out all stops, the embassy, LBGF, media, if they thought talking to LE would help, they would. We don't how traumatized the children are.

All is just my opinion

 

[HayLouise]

Search for missing Irish teen #NoraQuoirin entering 6th day, with no positive leads. #RTE’s @jackiefox_ on the ground in #Malaysia.

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Jon Williams on Twitter