Found Deceased Malaysia - Nora Quoirin, 15, from UK, special needs, missing on vacation, Seremban, 4 Aug 2019 #7

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The one detail of this case I have always found a little odd was the shaman who made the statement that it was time for the forest to return her, and then boom, the next day she was found. It almost sounded like a message in code to her captors. But on the other hand, she was not a victim of violent crime. Starving to death is in keeping with wandering alone in the woods. Any motive for keeping her that didn’t have violent intentions, she surely would have been fed.
 
  • #242
The one detail of this case I have always found a little odd was the shaman who made the statement that it was time for the forest to return her, and then boom, the next day she was found. It almost sounded like a message in code to her captors. But on the other hand, she was not a victim of violent crime. Starving to death is in keeping with wandering alone in the woods. Any motive for keeping her that didn’t have violent intentions, she surely would have been fed.
Surely a benevolent if misguided kidnapper would try and feed Nora, but if that was in fact what happened to her, i strongly suspect that she would too nervous and upset to eat anything at all.
Wondering if that particular Shaman's status has been elevated since he made that statement?
imo, speculation.
 
  • #243
The one detail of this case I have always found a little odd was the shaman who made the statement that it was time for the forest to return her, and then boom, the next day she was found. It almost sounded like a message in code to her captors. But on the other hand, she was not a victim of violent crime. Starving to death is in keeping with wandering alone in the woods. Any motive for keeping her that didn’t have violent intentions, she surely would have been fed.

I've always felt this was too much of a coincidence too. The only thing I can think of that would link to this message is perhaps there was a local known person who maybe had special needs themselves and rumour was that they had Nora. JMO MOO
 
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Family statement LBT Global.
PRESS RELEASE - NÓRA QUOIRIN - FAMILY STATEMENT

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Following the release of a new documentary on Nóra Quoirin, her parents Meabh and Sebastien have issued the following statement:

“One week ago, we learned from a member of the international press that a documentary on Nóra would be aired on national Malaysian television. We had not been consulted or informed. It was commissioned as part of a series called Court File which chooses public interest cases to report on.

We were utterly shocked by this news and by the broadcast. Several deeply sensitive and incredibly personal images were shared during the programme that we had never seen before. Arguably even more shocking however was how much critical material was missing from the narration, largely handled by a member of the police involved in the search for Nóra.

This 60-minute episode focused overly on the elements that have been extremely well documented, such as the extensive search - but neglected to tackle, or even mention, any of the difficult and numerous unanswered questions that remain such as how could a mentally and physically impaired child make their way through an impenetrable jungle in darkness? Or why the police have failed to trigger any investigation into the physical evidence secured (fingerprints, DNA from the abandoned camp near where Nóra was found)? Or why was there no trace of Nóra, despite previous searches with sniffer dogs to the precise area where she was found.

It chose to focus instead and repeatedly on utterly irrelevant pieces of information – such as a drop of blood found in our bathroom which was quickly found to belong to our other daughter, in place of the critical evidence we possess, for instance the several full sets of unidentified fingerprints found on the window which was forced open the night Nóra disappeared. Disappointingly, the official open verdict we secured (i.e. no conclusion on whether Nóra’s death was as a result of criminal means or misadventure could be drawn) was mentioned as an afterthought at the end of the programme with no interpretation or contextualisation.

This serves to show that the public interest in Nóra’s case remains global and substantial. We as a family, and the Malaysian people deserve better answers. We will never stop asking the questions and remain dedicated to the truth, in honour of our beautiful Nóra.”

Meabh and Sebastien Quoirin

ENDS

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That's a heartbreaking statement, and her parents' concerns and questions seem valid and important.
 
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I would like to see the documentary.
 
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Hope Quoirin family is doing ok. This remains the case I would most like a answer to.
 
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This has always been really mystifying given the nature of the disappearance. Nora did have physical and mental limitations regarding her health, I have always wondered how on earth Nora got out of the room unaided. Very much feel for her family and friends, very sad.
 
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as the parent of a disabled child, I think occam's razor applies here. Elopement is very common, especially on holidays/in unfamiliar environments. Nothing about this seems or ever has seemed sus to me.

(this article talks about ASD but elopement is a feature of intellectual and neurological disabilities generally)
 
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Nora would be 21 now. Her mother’s memories…


Nóra’s favourite phrase was “’Mummy, what’s the plan?’”. Best of all was “the travelling plan”, says Meabh. She “really loved travelling, and the journey mattered more than the destination for Nóra, she just loved being on long journeys.

“She would just be staring out of the window, sometimes having a wee chat to the animals she was going past.”

Nora loved animals and had a vivid imagination – “creatures, the crazier the better, she kind of preferred it if they weren’t even real, monsters featured heavily” – and her favourite teddy was the Gruffalo.

On holiday in Bali, they visited a monkey park: “This was on her birthday and this was great, because the monkeys just kept coming up to people and sitting on their heads, and this was her best day.”
 
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I think about this case all the time, and how Nora's mom must be absolutely haunted not knowing what happened in all of those days she was gone.
 
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This has always been really mystifying given the nature of the disappearance. Nora did have physical and mental limitations regarding her health, I have always wondered how on earth Nora got out of the room unaided. Very much feel for her family and friends, very sad.
It really is. The children were sleeping in a loft with a spiral staircase, it just baffles me that Nora could get out without waking anyone up, let alone get to the jungle. I think it's impossible that she could have. The area where Nora was found is difficult to get to even for experienced trekers. Why weren't her clothes found since she wasn't wearing them when found? Nora was not autistic. It doesn't seem to me like she would have hid from searchers, especially since they played recordings of her mothers voice.
 
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as the parent of a disabled child, I think occam's razor applies here. Elopement is very common, especially on holidays/in unfamiliar environments. Nothing about this seems or ever has seemed sus to me.

(this article talks about ASD but elopement is a feature of intellectual and neurological disabilities generally)
Nora was not autistic.
 
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Nora would be 21 now. Her mother’s memories…


Nóra’s favourite phrase was “’Mummy, what’s the plan?’”. Best of all was “the travelling plan”, says Meabh. She “really loved travelling, and the journey mattered more than the destination for Nóra, she just loved being on long journeys.

“She would just be staring out of the window, sometimes having a wee chat to the animals she was going past.”

Nora loved animals and had a vivid imagination – “creatures, the crazier the better, she kind of preferred it if they weren’t even real, monsters featured heavily” – and her favourite teddy was the Gruffalo.

On holiday in Bali, they visited a monkey park: “This was on her birthday and this was great, because the monkeys just kept coming up to people and sitting on their heads, and this was her best day.”
Thanks for posting, I wonder about Nora's family.
 
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Nora was not autistic.
which is why my post talked about how all children with cognitive and neurological conditions are at risk of elopement. The link was about ASD children, but the point was still the same - elopement increases on vacation/holidays.
 
  • #260
It wasn't consistent with everything that was said about Nora and I think all children is a huge leap.
 

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