Mallory Parker's Testimony

  • #21
I was sure I heard her say she was closer to CA now than she was back then. I was hoping to see how KC reacted to that claim.

Just wondering, as I didn't get to watch myself, did Mallory say she is closer to CA now or before? Because in one post, it says she was close to her but not so much now. And then in another post one or down from that, says she is closer to her now than she was before. TIA!
 
  • #22
She was coached, the old "I can't recall" is the best way to get out of answering questions. It's probably for the best, if she did recall anything I wouldn't believe it anyway.

When I read her deposition I didn't believe her. I think she's carefully omitting a lot of info to stay in the family's good graces. It's like she's being forced to be involved but she's trying to stay as distant as possible at the same time.

When you're in a long term relationship normally you tell your sig. other everything including family drama. If Casey was as big of a problem as we know she was, Lee would know what was going on in the house - whether he lived there or not. There's no way he wouldn't have told Mallory about stuff. I just don't believe it. Unless they have a very odd, impersonal relationship, which it doesn't appear to be.

My sig. other knows pretty much everything about my family, warts and all, because he's my best friend and my primary emotional support. He would know exactly who did what if we had big family drama like that.
 
  • #23
Someone said Mallory looked to Casey as she said; "amazing" describing Casey and Caylee's bond as Baez instructed her to do for the jury, before breaking down. She looked at the jury. Jurors box is to the witnesses right. Defense is seated directly across, facing the jury with their backs against the far left wall. I didn't see Mallory look at Casey even though Casey was trying to make eye contact after she got over the statement Mallory made about being closer with CA now than in 2008. Casey was irritated about that statement, imo but Mallory's tears for Caylee had an affect on her. We should keep in mind, Casey has not until this point seen the people she used to see all the time grieve for Caylee's death yet.
 
  • #24
In sessions is driving me crazy playing Mallory's 'amazing' testimony over and over again and saying how much it helps the defense!

I think it could backfire though and help the prosecution. What mother with an "amazing bond" with their child will act the way Casey did.. go to blockbuster on the very night her daughter died?
 
  • #25
Mallory saying it was an amazing relationship between Caylee and Casey. It reminds me of the special bond between Casey and her brother Lee. Remember both parents talking about their "closeness", and then we find out Casey is secretly trashing Lee to all her bfs.

I don't know if Mallory is being sincere. Amazing might have been the wrong word. Mallory and Lee had to go looking for Casey because CA was worried sick. It doesn't sound like Casey was concerned about the rest of the family, at all, so is she even capable of caring about anybody but herself is the real question for me.
 
  • #26
I think it helps the prosecution - so they had this amazing relationship, but either way (drowning or intentional murder), Casey didn't mourn one bit for Caylee's loss? I know that has to be going through the jury's minds about now. I know I'd be wondering about that. I am still interested in how Lee is going to be on the stand. Casey accused him of sexual abuse. I swear I will spit nails if he's exactly like Mallory on the stand. And whoever said it here is right - Lee would have told Mallory everything. Those "I don't recalls" are so that she doesn't have to answer the question.

I think she is a gullibe girl and bought Casey's BS. And I think she'll do anything to stay in the good graces of the family. Lee may not like her going against Casey bluntly in court. It's weird since Casey accused Lee of molestation, and Luka said Lee's waiting for his day in court, but I've known people who are like that. They'll agree behind closed doors that their sibling or parent is a problem, but don't ever confront them or the sibling or parent in public because they will just get angry, deny everything, and even sever relationships. I wonder if Lee is like that too, and Mallory knows she has to be careful or she might lose him.

Or it could be that Lee is protecting Mallory and telling her that it's his and his family's job, not Mallory's, to deal with Casey. I can see that too. I doubt he wants Mallory to have to get too involved in this. Casey has always been a Anthony problem, not any outsider's problem, and that includes Mallory since she isn't Anthony blood.
 
  • #27
I would think that, if ICA has such a special bond with Caylee, if Caylee would have drowned in the pool, ICA would have shown some emotion, some grief, something. But we got nothing.
 
  • #28
I would think that, if ICA has such a special bond with Caylee, if Caylee would have drowned in the pool, ICA would have shown some emotion, some grief, something. But we got nothing.

Casey Anthony did have a bond with her daughter, and everyone who actually knew them in real life has said that. The woman drove around with her rotting daughter in her car, that sure does not seem like something someone would do who hated their child and wanted them long gone. Driving around with your rotting child is pretty much a horrifying thing to do, it sounds to me she had a hard time letting go, tome thats pretty emotional. jmo
 
  • #29
Casey Anthony did have a bond with her daughter, and everyone who actually knew them in real life has said that. The woman drove around with her rotting daughter in her car, that sure does not seem like something someone would do who hated their child and wanted them long gone. Driving around with your rotting child is pretty much a horrifying thing to do, it sounds to me she had a hard time letting go, tome thats pretty emotional. jmo
For me personally, this is the hardest part of the state's case. It's what makes me think something might be seriously wrong with ICA. Either like you said, it was a weird emotional attachment, or the exact opposite, and an emotional detachment. If somebody's in their right mind, they wouldn't/couldn't drive around, but by the same token, a self preservationist kind of person would look out for her own skin and immediately dispose of the body. Why take a chance of being pulled over by the cops and them looking in the trunk? I do not get this and never have. But...I guess a truly disturbed person would keep a body for gloating purposes. IDK how the state is going to explain this. It just seems IMO, that this act,( if they assert that she did it), will open up the real possibility that ICA is mentally incompetent. this, the heart sticker, the burial close to home, and not one person has said she was mean to her daughter. strange for sure. MOO.
 
  • #30
For me personally, this is the hardest part of the state's case. It's what makes me think something might be seriously wrong with ICA. Either like you said, it was a weird emotional attachment, or the exact opposite, and an emotional detachment. If somebody's in their right mind, they wouldn't/couldn't drive around, but by the same token, a self preservationist kind of person would look out for her own skin and immediately dispose of the body. Why take a chance of being pulled over by the cops and them looking in the trunk? I do not get this and never have. But...I guess a truly disturbed person would keep a body for gloating purposes. IDK how the state is going to explain this. It just seems IMO, that this act,( if they assert that she did it), will open up the real possibility that ICA is mentally incompetent. this, the heart sticker, the burial close to home, and not one person has said she was mean to her daughter. strange for sure. MOO.

bbm: just an observation, but in my experience if you are around a mom and child long enough there will tantrums, discipline, moments of not so perfect behavior on both parts............but to always be AMAZING........nope, even the best mothers I have been around have been tired, exhausted, frustrated, and even openly angry with their children. NO ONE knows what their relationship was like alone. NO ONE.
 
  • #31
I spanked my kids a few times, lost it and went banshee on them, did impulsively angry things when they got on my last nerve. But NEVER in public, never in front of family or friends, ever. I am usually :D on my best behavior in a social situation. If you were to estimate my overall parenting behavior based upon what I allowed to show in public, you would think I never lost it, got overwhelmed, spanked or punished my children. That our relationship was good enough.

In fact, it is easier for a sociopathic personality to demonstrate a positive public persona than it is for a "normal" person (read: with reasonable honesty and integrity) to keep up that pleasant facade. Sociopaths have more PRACTISE. The mask is all they have, and by nature, they are gifted in disguising and manipulation.

It doesn't mean much (to me, anyway, and hopefully to a conscientious juror) that KC was not openly hostile to her daughter in front of people she had an interest in impressing.
 
  • #32
I remember that everyone thought Scott Peterson had an amzing, happy marriage to Laci---including all of her family and friends.

Sociopaths are really good at fooling people.

To me, poor Mallory was fooled along with so many others...
 
  • #33
This "amazing" event here is crapola.

Of course Caylee loved her mother. She was her mother... Caylee was a baby, OF COURSE SHE LOVED HER MOTHER... Obviously.
An "amazing" relationship? Okay... Well, we know KC spent most of the afternoons home at the house with Caylee texting, IMin,downloading photos on photobucket... We've seen the videos taken of Caylee by Casey... I don't see an "amazing" bond. I see a silent mother, and a playful little girl. (You all know the videos... 1, 2, 3 cheese? you want cheese?) Oh thats such an amazing bond... Right Mallory. Amazing. Do you know that the amazing mother is saying your fiance, her brother tried to touch her? Accuses him of incest? Really? Amazing Mallory?!?

Whether or not Casey and Caylee had an amazing relationship, or not is not on trial here. I'm sure that Casey played the part of a loving mother... but deep in her soul Caylee was an accessory. Deep in her heart she didn't want Caylee... I wonder who Caylee's father really is... I really wish I knew that answer. She'd rather go out and party and be free...
If Casey and Caylee had an amazing bond... and if the defense wants people to believe their opening statement of how Casey found George with Caylee body after a drowning... All she did was take it and "cry and cry" than that "amazing bond" would of prompted Casey to call 911 when she found her daughter dead... no matter who was there... ESPECIALLY if her big bad mean molesting father was involved. Gimmie a break... Amazing bond.
So amazing, the 24 hours after that amazing bond was broken and her daughter was (by her own admission) dead she went to blockbuster, happy go lucky... wasn't upset and spent the night having fun in bed with her boyfriend.

Gimmie a break. Thats what I think about this testimony.

I feel sorry for her, on the other hand I did like her pony tail.
 
  • #34
well, she's testified to what her impressions were then, not necessarily what she thinks now ... and back then apparently everyone thought KC was an amazing parent

I still haven't seen the entire thing though - just what's linked upthread

I thought she looked so pretty and I felt really bad for her
 
  • #35
I spanked my kids a few times, lost it and went banshee on them, did impulsively angry things when they got on my last nerve. But NEVER in public, never in front of family or friends, ever. I am usually :D on my best behavior in a social situation. If you were to estimate my overall parenting behavior based upon what I allowed to show in public, you would think I never lost it, got overwhelmed, spanked or punished my children. That our relationship was good enough.

In fact, it is easier for a sociopathic personality to demonstrate a positive public persona than it is for a "normal" person (read: with reasonable honesty and integrity) to keep up that pleasant facade. Sociopaths have more PRACTISE. The mask is all they have, and by nature, they are gifted in disguising and manipulation.

It doesn't mean much (to me, anyway, and hopefully to a conscientious juror) that KC was not openly hostile to her daughter in front of people she had an interest in impressing.

Excellent post. I was thinking the same thing about sociopathic persons and how, if you have never known one, it's very hard to understand that by nature, they adapt to whatever they think others will perceive as normal behavior with absolute ease. Most of them are so damn good at it that people who don't live day in and day out with them never notice a problem at all - in fact they are intelligent and charming and outgoing. But if someone or something is in their way, they DO NOT think of "it" as anything other than something to get rid of, even if it is a two year old child.

I heard a pundit on HLN saying that the problem for the state is that in order to get the murder 1 they have to convince the jury that Casey is a monster who would murder her child and I thought NO>>>>NO>>>> they have to convey that she is a sociopath and that she viewed a means to an end as just something that had to be done for her life to be better and that she felt justified to do so regardless of how heinous it may seem to you and me. And that's where all the lies lead as well - just something she had to do to get her way - and again, the reason she accuses GA and LA of horrible things, to garner sympathy and manipulate those around her to get her way and now, to beat a murder rap.

I have to admit, this is going to be an uphill battle for the state. It's not easy for anyone to relate to the socipathic personality, traits and capabilities unless you have some experience with them imo. Time and time again we expect them to understand "reason" or to "do the right thing" or "show some remorse", but they never do and they never will.

Edited to add: This is Mallory's problem. She is surrounded by them but she can't see it. She doesn't understand it. She still expects everyone to be normal when they are not. Perhaps even the A's a s a whole do not understand Casey and think she will finally tell the truth, see reason, be responsible, understand the errors of her ways. They are in for an eternal wait.
 
  • #36
No offense, but I think that Mallory's choice of words was a little extreme.

What would be "amazing" about a good mother/daughter relationship?

I think that if she had children, she would be able to put that so-called "amazing" relationship into context better.

I mean, what little kid doesn't adore their mother? Even if she thinks they had a very close relationship, what would make that "amazing"?

I dunno, it just seems a bit over the top. JMO.:twocents:
 
  • #37
I have no clue what the point of calling her was. I did see her hugging GA in the waiting area. And, some other lady who I didn't recognize.
 
  • #38
Lee showed up at the courthouse and was in the courtroom while Mallory gave her testimony.
 
  • #39
i think it was bad for the state for more reasons than the "amazing" statement.

it was what she "could not recall" and


"did not remember"

weak, imo.

just the fact that her appearance gave the IS the opportunity to wax eloquent about how "amazing" her testimony was equals bad for the state.

imo.

they are always looking for that opening. i hate it that her appearance gave them that chance.
 
  • #40
I have seen very little of the trial today. Family medical crisis.

Just watching ICA's reaction as Mallory describes their mother -daughter bond ,ICA appears more pleased at Mallory's answers,than emotional that she has lost her daughter.
I hope the jury gets that.
 

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