MANHATTAN - Active Shooter reported at 345 Park Ave.

[LadyL]

He killed the cop and a security guard.

I had figured there must have been some 911 calls by pedestrians who saw him walking with a long gun, but now I realize that if he drove up to the entrance, he might not have been spotted in time.

There’s really no available street parking there, which obviously was of no concern to him if he were ticketed or towed.

He was wearing a bulletproof vest according to the link I posted earlier, and he shot himself in the head, so it definitely appears that his plan was to kill his perceived enemies and then himself, as he did.

IMO

he shot himself in the chest and left a note asking them to study his brain

 

[LadyL]

I think that will be a key component. Why did he withdraw from that high school? If it was beyond his control, he may have a lot of anger built up that his life is not what he thought it should be...Did he have one too many concussions and could not play the end of the season and so he just spiraled and possibly acted out and things just went bad from there?? There is a story here. Does he have mental health issues because of CTE and/or repeated concussions or does he have mental health issues that were rooted in neglect and/or abuse. No family has spoken out. Was he close to his family?

his high school coach said he was unaware of any head injuries

 

[LadyL]

I thought he played in the Canadian Football league? I read that here, but may it wasn't accurate.

I read something about that in this thread too ...

 

[vls12345]

Shane Tamura played high school football in L.A. Now, he's accused of targeting the NFL in a mass shooting

The gunman suspected of targeting the National Football League headquarters in New York, killing four, was a former football player at two Southern California high schools.

www.latimes.com

In the three-page handwritten note, Tamura, who never played in the NFL and has no record of playing football in college, appeared to blame the sport for his problems.

I didn't see a mention of a Canadian football league in the above article.

This Canadian news source does not mention ST playing for a Canadian league either:

NYC shooting gunman left behind note appearing to blame NFL for brain injury - National | Globalnews.ca

The note was found in Shane Tamura's pocket after he shot himself dead.

globalnews.ca

Nor does this one:

What we know about the Midtown Manhattan gunman and how the shooting unfolded

Investigators are combing through evidence in the wake of New York City’s deadliest mass shooting since 2000, trying to figure out more about the gunman who opened fire in Midtown, killing four people, including a police officer, and injuring one.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Inthedetails]

"The assault rifle used in mass shooter Shane Tamura’s deadly rampage at a Park Avenue skyscraper was assembled piece by piece – with the critical part purchased by his boss, according to officials and sources....

The lower receiver – which houses the trigger assembly, magazine well, and pistol grip – is the only AR-15 part classified as a firearm under federal law, and it requires a background check to buy....

'The lower part, we are finding out, was purchased by an associate. It is undetermined at this time if he played any role at all in planning or carrying out this action. This is what the investigation would reveal. We are now attempting to identify him and question him at this time.'

The other parts of the rifle can be purchased online or in gun shops — without any background check required."

NYC shooter Shane Tamura built AR-15 used in deadly rampage piece by piece — and his boss supplied a key part: sources

The assault rifle used in mass shooter Shane Tamura’s deadly rampage at a NYC skyscraper was assembled piece by piece – with the critical part purchased by his boss, according to officials and sour…

nypost.com

 

[katydid23]

I think that will be a key component. Why did he withdraw from that high school? If it was beyond his control, he may have a lot of anger built up that his life is not what he thought it should be...Did he have one too many concussions and could not play the end of the season and so he just spiraled and possibly acted out and things just went bad from there?? There is a story here. Does he have mental health issues because of CTE and/or repeated concussions or does he have mental health issues that were rooted in neglect and/or abuse. No family has spoken out. Was he close to his family?

His high school coach said that he does not remember ST ever having any concussions or head injuries.

 

[sony12]

Shane Tamura played high school football in L.A. Now, he's accused of targeting the NFL in a mass shooting

The gunman suspected of targeting the National Football League headquarters in New York, killing four, was a former football player at two Southern California high schools.

www.latimes.com

I didn't see a mention of a Canadian football league in the above article.

This Canadian news source does not mention ST playing for a Canadian league either:

NYC shooting gunman left behind note appearing to blame NFL for brain injury - National | Globalnews.ca

The note was found in Shane Tamura's pocket after he shot himself dead.

globalnews.ca

Nor does this one:

What we know about the Midtown Manhattan gunman and how the shooting unfolded

Investigators are combing through evidence in the wake of New York City’s deadliest mass shooting since 2000, trying to figure out more about the gunman who opened fire in Midtown, killing four people, including a police officer, and injuring one.

www.ctvnews.ca

I don't think there are any articles that mention him playing in Canada. He played highschool football in California so it's possible someone in this thread mistook that for meaning Canada. I'm sure there are people posting in this thread who aren't familiar at all with U.S. States and English might not be their native language.

 

[Inthedetails]

I don't think there are any articles that mention him playing in Canada. He played highschool football in California so it's possible someone in this thread mistook that for meaning Canada. I'm sure there are people posting in this thread who aren't familiar at all with U.S. States and English might not be their native language.

That could be since the state abbreviation for California is CA and the country abbreviation for Canada is CA.

He didn't play football, imo, past his high school year, and he left that high school before graduating. So far, I haven't seen anything about community college or college.

jmopinion

 

[sony12]

That could be since the state abbreviation for California is CA and the country abbreviation for Canada is CA.

He didn't play football, imo, past his high school year, and he left that high school before graduating. So far, I haven't seen anything about community college or college.

jmopinion

Yes if he did play somewhere past highschool it would be easy to find.

 

[Dotta]

I don't think there are any articles that mention him playing in Canada. He played highschool football in California so it's possible someone in this thread mistook that for meaning Canada. I'm sure there are people posting in this thread who aren't familiar at all with U.S. States and English might not be their native language.

Really???

How can one mix California with Canada???

And how being not native to the US refers to being ignoramus???

Phew!

JM not Eng native speaker's Opinion hehehe

 

[Inthedetails]

Really???

How can one mix California with Canada???

And how being not native to the US refers to being ignoramus???

Phew!

JM not Eng native speaker's Opinion hehehe

California = CA
Canada = CA

If someone were reading an article or comment that used the abbreviation, I can see how a misunderstanding would happen.

jmopinion

 

[Dotta]

California = CA
Canada = CA

If someone were reading an article or comment that used the abbreviation, I can see how a misunderstanding would happen.

jmopinion

Let's be serious

To add
It was NOT me mentioning Canada
but I had to object to the opinion referring to foreigners who post on WS

 

[sony12]

Let's be serious

To add
It was NOT me mentioning Canada
but I had to object to the opinion referring to foreigners who post on WS

I am not very familiar with specific territories within other countries and I am sure there are many people who don't live in the U.S. who aren't all that familiar with the States within the United States.

 

[Inthedetails]

Let's be serious

To add
It was NOT me mentioning Canada
but I had to object to the opinion referring to foreigners who post on WS

I'm not going to laugh at someone who made a mistake. I've made many myself and wouldn't appreciate being scoffed at.

Anyway, he didn't play for Canada.

jmopinion

 

[Aegon_the_Conqueror]

Once you badge in, you’re good. Shooter eliminated that step by killing security. He sprayed the lobby and went to an elevator bank. He got off on the first floor that opened, killed an employee and killed himself. This could have been far worse. I’d like to know the criteria for revoking a concealed carry permit due to known mental health issues.

Oh and NFL employees at 345 Park can WFH today or take the day if they need to. Does corporate understand how these people feel going back into that building right now?

WFH or day off seems appropriately generous. Only other option is going in anyway.

If he didn't have a violent history, there was never any grounds to revoke his permit (I don't think this guy would've simply obliged anyway). The overwhelming majority of the mentally ill aren't violent criminals. There"s a strong possibility that his illness was CTE,, which isn't a good predictor of someone committing murder, either, and can only be diagnosed post-mortem. Out of thousands of cases, you have OJ (knife), Aaron Hernandez (handgun, unlicensed and unregistered), and not many others. Treating them all like criminals and revoking their permits would be on par with taking permits away from the many thousands of veterans that the government gave PTSD. The government's incapable of making that determination (even psychiatrists misdiagnose all the time). Their history of diagnosing, caring for, and exploiting the mentally ill speaks for itself. They'd be about as good at determining mental illness as they are at putting people on terror watch lists; his many people have had their their passports revoked without their knowledge, despite not committing a crime? Revoking it wouldn't only be a violation of his 2A rights, but also his right to due process. The mentally ill have a right to due process, too.

 

[Inthedetails]

WFH or day off seems appropriately generous. Only other option is going in anyway.

If he didn't have a violent history, there was never any grounds to revoke his permit (I don't think this guy would've simply obliged anyway). The overwhelming majority of the mentally ill aren't violent criminals. There"s a strong possibility that his illness was CTE,, which isn't a good predictor of someone committing murder, either, and can only be diagnosed post-mortem. Out of thousands of cases, you have OJ (knife), Aaron Hernandez (handgun, unlicensed and unregistered), and not many others. Treating them all like criminals and revoking their permits would be on par with taking permits away from the many thousands of veterans that the government gave PTSD. The government's incapable of making that determination (even psychiatrists misdiagnose all the time). Their history of diagnosing, caring for, and exploiting the mentally ill speaks for itself. They'd be about as good at determining mental illness as they are at putting people on terror watch lists; his many people have had their their passports revoked without their knowledge, despite not committing a crime? Revoking it wouldn't only be a violation of his 2A rights, but also his right to due process. The mentally ill have a right to due process, too.

FWIW, he made the gun and for a vital piece that required a background check, someone else purchased it.

NYC shooter Shane Tamura built AR-15 used in deadly rampage piece by piece — and his boss supplied a key part: sources

The assault rifle used in mass shooter Shane Tamura’s deadly rampage at a NYC skyscraper was assembled piece by piece – with the critical part purchased by his boss, according to officials and sour…

nypost.com

 

[vls12345]

Central NY college grad, 27, killed in NYC shooting: ‘An extraordinary student’

Four people were killed in the shooting.

www.syracuse.com

 

[dotr]

He enjoyed building the gun, making deadly plans and the idea that others will see his actions as a necessary and even noble for contributing to public awareness of CTE.

Imo, he is full of it, he just came up with some (topical) reason to justify a desire to kill kill kill, not just others, but himself too.
Rebel without a cause, so he made one up. imo, speculation.

 

[Inthedetails]

He enjoyed building the gun, making deadly plans and the idea that others will see his actions as a necessary and even noble for contributing to public awareness of CTE.

Imo, he is full of it, he just came up with some (topical) reason to justify a desire to kill kill kill, not just others, but himself too.
Rebel without a cause, so he made one up. imo, speculation.

100% agree.

jmopinion

 

[CityKid]

With the recent uptick in societal anger, I’m inclined to assume the worst if I were to see a long gun being carried openly in a public place that isn’t a gun club or hunting area, etc. If I ever see it in a schoolyard or mall parking lot, and if I’m in my car, I plan to point my car right at said person and floor the gas pedal. If I’m wrong, I will pay the legal price, but I’m at an age where I’m willing to accept that risk.

jmo

I understand your point, but this was an average street in Midtown Manhattan, blocks from Times Square, with a large police presence. I can't think of the last mass shooting in Manhattan; the last I can think of was one out in Queens in a fast-food robbery at the turn of the century. I literally have never seen a long gun in person in my life, and had I seen this perp I would not have thought the worst (if it had been a samurai sword or a handgun, I would have thought the worst). Also, there are often films and TV shows filmed on ordinary streets and in ordinary buildings. Years ago I was coming home from work and as I approached my corner I saw a huge police/police car presence in front of my building, so I crossed the street and watched and waited... till Det. Lenny Briscoe came out .