Maricopa Jane Doe 1999 Thread #4

[Auburnmommyof2]

Im dying to see the actual RING, To see if it appears to be a womans or a mans, In addition, I have been looking into these types of rings and they call them Signet rings or Monogram rings, the ones that have the Initials on the outside like the one she had are normally the first initial the LAST NAME INITIAL in the MIDDLE IN LARGER SCRIPT and then the middle initial

I beleive hers was stated to also have a diamond in it. I also read alot of times these are worn as pinky rings so maybe she had outgrown this ring as a pinky ring and put it on the chain instead.

Here is an example pic of the type of ring Im referring to

http://www.wards.com/wards/largepic.asp?ID=77899

Signet ring! That's what its called, thank you. That's exactly what I have visioned as well.

 

[J. Brannagh]

Can someone send me a copy of the report??

 

[christine2448]

Can someone send me a copy of the report??

Please pm your email address.

 

[believe09]

Please pm your email address.

J Brannagh'e email addy kicked the report back to me, Christine, so maybe you can walk her through how to prevent that from happening??

Hugs ya both!!

 

[phenolred]

Here are some different examples of script on signet rings

http://www.jewelbasket.com/jbuu65072.html

 

[J. Brannagh]

Thank you Believe! I am pretty new at this... have lurked for a long time but would like to participate more...

Thank you Christine for trying to help me figure it out!

 

[rccook555]

Check this web site out http://www.inmatesplus.com/ Kelly has been in trouble a lot in Arizona I am surprised he hasn't been in jail for a few years I wonder if he moved some place else since it seems as though the heat was on him a lot. It also seems as though he had an older woman working for him. Unfortunately there isn't a picture of him on the web site but it does have his weight height etc. I don't think MJD could have been in the area for a long time since nobody in the Vice Unit of the Police Dept knew her. I think we need to do some checking in the eastern states to see if she is missing from there.

He also has quite an extensive record from Wisconsin dating from 2/2/1991 to 9/14/1998 where it appears he left Wisconsin at that time and went to AZ and picked up his criminal acts in AZ.
http://wcca.wicourts.gov/index.xslhttp://wcca.wicourts.gov/simpleCaseSearch.xsl;jsessionid=FCB2AAAF581286FB95C15E67EBFE0609.render2

 

[Marstan]

He also has quite an extensive record from Wisconsin dating from 2/2/1991 to 9/14/1998 where it appears he left Wisconsin at that time and went to AZ and picked up his criminal acts in AZ.
http://wcca.wicourts.gov/index.xslhttp://wcca.wicourts.gov/index.xslhttp://wcca.wicourts.gov/index.xsl

I knew I had read that before (on the internet), I think I will go and look up any young girls missing from WI, for some reason I keep thinking that is where MJD is from. I actually dreamed about it last night and I don't usually do things like that. LOL:crazy:

 

[Cubby]

Do we know if MJD's prints were run outside of AZ? If she was from WI, it's possible she may have been in some trouble there.

 

[Angie4b1g]

Alonzo has already plead out, so no charges are coming to him no matter what we discover. The most that would happen would be charges to LDJ, which are probably unlikely no matter what we uncover.

So, might as well focus on the matter at hand - giving our girl a name and getting her home.

 

[J. Brannagh]

I wonder if MJD came out from Wisconsin with him in Sep of 1998... that would have her in AZ for about 3 months.

It would make sense he would bring some girls out with him or just one "girlfriend"... for income... (poor girl)

 

[Cubby]

KTL Has a moving violation in Milwaukee on 11/09/98 and then again on 02/03/99.

http://query.municourt.milwaukee.gov/AllCases.asp

I wonder when LE in AZ interviewed him.

ETA: KTL's interview with LE was 03/04/99

If he has a moving violation in Milwaukee on 02/03/99, how would he have been in PHX in Jan 99? Unless he was in WI in Nov, then in AZ sometime inbetween, back in WI in Feb and back in AZ in March.

 

[Lucy's mom]

Here is the response from the sheriff's office. I'll keep you posted of the follow-up with Det. Hughes.

Lisa,

I tried to contact Detective Hughes but he is out of the office. I am not positive but I believe Detective Hughes has had contact with Doris' sister since 1999. Since I am not positive I have copied this message to him so he can correct me if I am wrong. Also knowing Detective Hughes if he has any ideas that may help you with identifying the girl he will pass those ideas along to you.

Kathy A. Dorn
Detective
Dane County Sheriff's Office

 

[Auburnmommyof2]

KTL Has a moving violation in Milwaukee on 11/09/98 and then again on 02/03/99.

http://query.municourt.milwaukee.gov/AllCases.asp

I wonder when LE in AZ interviewed him.

If I'm reading the information right...the violation was on 11/09/98 and the 2/3/99 date is when the fines were due. I may be wrong though.

 

[Cubby]

They are different citation numbers and different locations where the violation occured. I think they are different incidents.

I think we need to find other area's where KTL has violations to get an idea of where MJD might be from. If he was traffiking young girls from WI and "back east" it's easy to see how he could have been in AZ in Jan, WI in Feb and back in AZ in Marc.

 

[Teresa Larson]

Alonzo has already plead out, so no charges are coming to him no matter what we discover. The most that would happen would be charges to LDJ, which are probably unlikely no matter what we uncover.

So, might as well focus on the matter at hand - giving our girl a name and getting her home.

There is no statue on murder so they could come back and charge Alonzo and Lindsey If they came up with some new evidence.

 

[Angie4b1g]

He was already charged. Plead guilty to a lesser charge. If he walked into the police department right now and told them he killed her, he still can't be charged. Statute of limitations not withstanding, double jeopardy still applies.

As far as LDJ, yes she could still be charged. The likelihood of anyone uncovering evidence of a push vs. a fall are highly unlikely, though. No matter what we or anyone else finds out about what happened that day, we probably won't ever know whether she jumped or was pushed unless LDJ decides to come clean.

Anyway, once again we're off the objective here. We need to give this girl back her name.

 

[fmw63]

Just talked to my LE contact in AZ, and mentioned to him about the other two girls of Lipsey's that "hadn't been found yet" (This was back in '99 when he was arrested). So, I think Mr. Lipsey's about to get some more questioning. Alonzo still hasn't been found yet, but they're working on it. Also, they've talked to Lindsey recently, and she's being a little more cooperative. Supposedly there was this house they stopped at on their way out of town, that MJD went into.

Stay tuned for the next thrilling episode! Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel!
:woohoo:

 

[Auburnmommyof2]

Just talked to my LE contact in AZ, and mentioned to him about the other two girls of Lipsey's that "hadn't been found yet" (This was back in '99 when he was arrested). So, I think Mr. Lipsey's about to get some more questioning. Alonzo still hasn't been found yet, but they're working on it. Also, they've talked to Lindsey recently, and she's being a little more cooperative. Supposedly there was this house they stopped at on their way out of town, that MJD went into.

Stay tuned for the next thrilling episode! Same Bat Time, Same Bat Channel!
:woohoo:

:clap::clap::clap:

 

[Angie4b1g]

That is AWESOME news!!! So glad she's getting some sort of conscious!