Mark Hawkins *Updated*

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Now that I think of it...who's credit card was Casey going to use to book a flight to California?

The credit card attached to the bank account that she told JB she had $5K in. Or the bank account that had $15K in it as told to Tony L. :floorlaugh:
 
Aedrys, maybe my timeline is scrambled but in that convo with him about "something she wanted to tell" wasn't Caylee already deceased? Why do you think she would have wanted him to get a DNA test?

I thought she was asking to see him before Caylee died for some reason. That's what I was talking about. And then she got more urgent about it after Caylee died. I remember we speculated she was going to try and run away to California or something, but didn't do so in that thirty days after Caylee died. Hmmm. I guess I assumed she had mentioned it before Caylee was murdered. It was just something I was throwing out there as a possibility, but if she wasn't talking to him until after Caylee was murdered, then that doesn't fit at all and she wouldn't asked him to do a DNA test. So she didn't say she had something to tell him before Caylee died then? Is that right? I guess I'm confused how often she was talking to him before Caylee's murder as opposed to after it happened.
 
I thought she was asking to see him before Caylee died for some reason. That's what I was talking about. And then she got more urgent about it after Caylee died. I remember we speculated she was going to try and run away to California or something, but didn't do so in that thirty days after Caylee died. Hmmm. I guess I assumed she had mentioned it before Caylee was murdered. It was just something I was throwing out there as a possibility, but if she wasn't talking to him until after Caylee was murdered, then that doesn't fit at all and she wouldn't asked him to do a DNA test. So she didn't say she had something to tell him before Caylee died then? Is that right? I guess I'm confused how often she was talking to him before Caylee's murder as opposed to after it happened.

Not entirely sure. They may have been talking before Caylee died but the convo we're referencing, about her having "something" to tell him I think happened after. I think. LOL.
 
Not entirely sure. They may have been talking before Caylee died but the convo we're referencing, about her having "something" to tell him I think happened after. I think. LOL.

I recall the same thing, the same timing, etc.,

led me to think she was trying to flee to CA all along (perhaps before killing Caylee) and upon arriving in CA advise him "gee, your a dad, but I never told you, now she's been kidnapped...boo hoo, poor us.....now take care of me"

.....FWIW (not that he's the bio-dad, but I felt ICA was trying to do this "to him")
 
Oh I have so much catching up to do. I'm linking a post here from the GA thread with some good dates regarding MH's involvement in the case.
I'm not sure if it's a repeat ~ just want to be sure we can find it here.

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6190943&postcount=353"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2011.03.02 - 03 George Anthony's Testimony[/ame]
 
I hope his interview and/or wiretapping is released Friday!!
 
I hope his interview and/or wiretapping is released Friday!!

ANYTHING from Mark Hawkin's at this point would be great, IMO.
We've been waiting so long to hear what he had to say.

I sure hope we get something, too!
 
I think anything they have MH related will be the biggest bombshells against her yet. Can't wait.
 
I hope his interview and/or wiretapping is released Friday!!

I.m hoping it is too~ maybe why JB brought it up at hearing- he got the discovery and wanted to preempt the info going public?
 
Originally Posted by Intermezzo
Casey must have been livid when she learned Mark H, like ex-boyfriend TonE, co-operated with LE and agreed to be wired..then...going to Baez's office and to her house WIRED!!!

Now these 2 are Agents of the State. right?

This was briefly mentioned in court - did anyone catch a clip of ICA's face? I would love to see that....

There was so much going on with objections to this line of questioning, that the camera did not focus on George or Inmate Anthony's facial reactions to this information.

http://www.wftv.com/video/27068800/index.html
Part Five - George testimony - March 3, 2011 Hearing
Baez questioning George

(19:15) Baez - you've also become aware that the FBI has even sent in people wearing wires to talk to KC
(Burdick object - relevance - overuled -
Burdick - timeframe?)
(19:21) Are you aware Mark Hawkins wore a wire for the FBI when he went to MY office (Burdick object timeframe)
Judge - rephrase for timeframe
are you aware that on Oct 2008 - individual by name Mark Hawkins wore wire to George house and Baez office even though KC rep by counsel
(LDB irrelevant timeframe July 22 and Aug 14 - Motion covers specific period of time)
Judge response relevance and materiality - Motion covers specific period of time
Baez - can I have a moment Judge? you may
Baez - Judge goes to lengths LE gone to attempt solicit agents of state - this witness is aware of it - talking about things he discovered now as to that time period - helping him (George) determine he is agent of state-
Judge - what time period motion cover?
Baez - up to Aug 14th
Judge - sustained
 
:wave: ANJ!

That is an awesome chart at post 261. You do amazing work with data and graphics :sunshine:
 
Okay, that was a bunch of nothing unless I missed something. And why isn't there a statement from him about what was said while he was wiretapped? Now I'm really down. He didn't seem to get anything at all, and we might never know what was said during the wiretapping. Dangit.

Unless there's more than just the NCIS report? Maybe there's more from OSCO about the wiretapping? I hope so. The only thing out right now is the NCIS report!
 
What we did get from it is that MH and ICA were never intimate, so he is not Caylee's dad. Also that LA and CA know what happened. But who knows which version of the "truth" she told them.
 
He's the military guy from California who's wife had an affair with Lee, got pregnant, and had an abortion that Lee ranted about. There was speculation CA was going to flee to California to be with him after Caylee died, but she didn't.

And now I'm even more confused at Baez's reaction in court. Why was he so mad about Mark H if Mark H got nothing in the wiretap? I thought for sure Mark H got something because Baez brought him up. From this report, though, it's the exact opposite! Then again, Baez does make mountains out of molehills...
 
Okay, that was a bunch of nothing unless I missed something. And why isn't there a statement from him about what was said while he was wiretapped? Now I'm really down. He didn't seem to get anything at all, and we might never know what was said during the wiretapping. Dangit.

Unless there's more than just the NCIS report? Maybe there's more from OSCO about the wiretapping? I hope so. The only thing out right now is the NCIS report!

Casey anthony allegedly told the CW that her brother Lee Anthony knew most of the story about what happened to Caylee

That's MORE than nothing LOL.
 
He's the military guy from California who's wife had an affair with Lee, got pregnant, and had an abortion that Lee ranted about. There was speculation CA was going to flee to California to be with him after Caylee died, but she didn't.

And now I'm even more confused at Baez's reaction in court. Why was he so mad about Mark H if Mark H got nothing in the wiretap? I thought for sure Mark H got something because Baez brought him up. From this report, though, it's the exact opposite! Then again, Baez does make mountains out of molehills...

I think Baez was just trying to prove that LE was trying to get info from ICA by any means, even though she had an attorney. MH interview sounded like he went with CA to pick up ICA, but didn't go inside.
 
Casey anthony allegedly told the CW that her brother Lee Anthony knew most of the story about what happened to Caylee

That's MORE than nothing LOL.

Yeah, but we all what a liar Casey is too. I was hoping for juicy stuff Casey said on tape, LOL. I guess I hoped for too much.

If that was true, it is pretty big. It could also be Casey throwing her brother under the bus early on too. I don't trust anything Casey says.
 

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