Hi Sheila, glad you found us, and welcome to Websleuths!
Can you discuss further what the confirmation process looks like? It sounds like, from a previous comment, that y’all are trying to match up Mary Belle and Mary Shepard via means other than something like DNA. Is there a reason not to go that route? In other words, using something like 23and Me to see if members of Mary Shepard’s family show up as cousins or half-siblings or whatever? And please forgive me if that’s an impolite question- I’m just curious about the process, and it struck me that personal DNA kits (vs waiting on NamUs) would be a relatively quick and easy way to confirm it.
Thanks for this. If it’s any reassurance, it’s against
Websleuths’ rules to contact family members:
“*Do not become personally involved in cases by reaching out to case players and then post about it on the forum. If members want to help, they should respond only to valid requests for volunteers.”
That said, it sounds like you’ve made a ton of progress on your grandmother’s case and I’m excited to hear about your future discoveries. And of course, if there’s anything we can do to help, please let us know!
Absolutely, and maybe someone here might have an idea I can try.
Mary and Hubert Shepard did not have children. Hubert has children from a previous marriage. Those that are living are in their 80’s. And I hate the idea of disturbing someone of that age. I don’t like the idea of disturbing anyone. But I have reached out to what would be my peers, Hubert’s grandchildren. If they in turn decide to discuss this with an older family member to mine memories, I feel it would be better received. So far the family has not replied. I can’t push. Maybe they don’t know anything about Mary. Maybe they don’t trust my intentions. We live in a scammers world so I can’t blame them.
So there is no DNA connection to the Shepard family.
If MB lived did she ever have children? I haven’t successfully dug back through all the surnames yet.
My DNA is in Ancestry in the hopes of finding a “new” cousin some day. My mother was not interested in submitting her DNA. The thought of half siblings that possibly had a better, longer relationship with MB is too much for her.
I’m trying a new tactic to try to draw a comment from any Shepard family member.
I’ve added Hubert into my family tree on Ancestry, with an unverified note. And in searching through hints and his family I’ve messaged a few to see if they remember Mary. No response yet.
I added a photo of Mary Belle to Mary B. Shepard’s Find A Grave page, with a note that the two women weren’t confirmed to be one in the same.
My father is deceased and I never visit the site for him. I forget someone listed his grave half the time. But when I do if someone has left a photo it would 100% get my attention.
I try to be completely transparent in the fact that I do not know if the women are one in the same.
If they aren’t, it is disrespectful to the true Mary B Shepard and hinders the search for Mary Belle.
I/we may never know unless someone in the family says “yeah, that looks like her” or NAMUS has a DNA match.
Keep sleuthing! There has to be one photo of Mary Godsey Pierce Shepard somewhere!
I’m working on the Pierce surname now but not certain I have the correct groom, Albert maybe…
Breaks come in waves. I’ll have success for a bit and then months go by with nothing.
Thanks for the compliment. I feel as if I don’t do enough or I’m missing something. It drives me insane that I can’t locate my grandparents marriage records.
Mary Belle Davis and Herman “O.T.” Henley
Ringgold, Valdosta, GA
April 16, 1940
Per Herman Henley’s Divorce Decree in 1963
But that has nothing to do with what happened to Mary Belle.
Someone asked where Herman was in 1950 and the answer is I have yet to find him on a census, anywhere.
Try Dayton, Ohio. He ran away to family there often and occasionally worked there.
Marion and Abbey May where the parents of Herman’s half siblings in Dayton.
My oldest uncle told me once that when I die Mary Belle will be forgotten because no one cares as much as I do.
Individuals and volunteers who keep digging carry on when family no longer looks.
Unlike all of you, I am personally involved. Biologically involved. I can’t abide by some of the rules if this group because of who I am.I knew at 4 years old that I would find my grandmother. I remember when the article came out in the Beacon. I’m the little girl.
I won’t hider your search. If I can answer questions or clarify something I’ll be happy to but you all have fresh eyes. Thank you!