Maybe she didn't abandon the car - Gas cans will solve the case.

[Cerenity2u]

What bothers me is the fact that an employee of Amscot stated she first saw KC's car parked by the dumpsters at approx. 7:00am on the morning of the 27th, yet if Tony did not pick KC up until around 11:00am, where was KC right before the car was spotted until the time Tony picked her up from that location? We are talking at least a 4 hour difference. Also Tony claims that KC was standing outside of her car, hold a bag of groceries. He stated that the bags looked like bags she just tood from her home, as they were not from any particular store. He claimed the bags contained Tyson chicken and freezy pops, that appeared to come from her house. So how and when did she go to her home to get food, and get back to her abandoned car for Tony to pick her up?

 

[Spangle]

Oh could it be this............cause she tells AMy prior about the smell, set the stage for Amy to get a gas can and drop her off at her car......just in case Amy smells it...BUT when they get to the Amscot its gone on the 28th? But theres nothing in the statement asked about what happened after they bought a gas can at Target??? grrr

Bingo!

That is why it's known that liers talk to much. It's because they are telling the other person what to focus on. Either with their sight, smell, touch, etc. And explaining what they think they see/hear/touch, etc. In this case, it's telling the person what to believe the smell is from. BEFORE the person has a chance to 'think' and come to their own explanation.

IT's also why she says where Caylee is, before asked. It stops questions/thinking. Subject opened then closed, all in a 'controlled' manor. Everyone 'feels' like it's been discussed.. and it doesn't come up again.

 

[CaptLogic]

I would give everything I own to know if there is any security video of Casey leaving her parents car at the Amscott. I can see a situation where she runs out of gas at the Amscott with Caylee's body in the trunk. She panicks, looks frantically around, and sees a convenient dumpster. She tosses the body into the dumpster and leaves in such a hurry that her purse and keys are left in the vehicle. Why else would she have left her purse in the car? If I place myself inside her twisted mind (a disgusting place to be), I can see her thinking, well.....if I ever get caught, I can say I was carjacked. Her behavior of leaving the car at the Amscott with her purse, and then trying to get gas cans a few days latter when she was driving around in Tony's jeep just tells me she was flat broke and was somehow using those cans to get gas for whatever she was driving. Maybe you can't siphon gas easily anymore (I plan on trying tomorrow), but I bet she could wear a short skirt and get some guy at a gas station to buy her sob story and purchase a can of gas for her. I know her type in that respect.

I think this was planned. KC is good at deception and lying. So planning out how to get rid of the body would have been something she would be good at. Lie over lie, weave in some truth and facts from other aspects of her life to make it confusing, a little bit of this or that... that's how it's done.

Although, leaving the car there may have been a mistake she didn't count on. That is how she got caught, so logically she didn't plan that.

 

[CaptLogic]

What bothers me is the fact that an employee of Amscot stated she first saw KC's car parked by the dumpsters at approx. 7:00am on the morning of the 27th, yet if Tony did not pick KC up until around 11:00am, where was KC right before the car was spotted until the time Tony picked her up from that location? We are talking at least a 4 hour difference. Also Tony claims that KC was standing outside of her car, hold a bag of groceries. He stated that the bags looked like bags she just tood from her home, as they were not from any particular store. He claimed the bags contained Tyson chicken and freezy pops, that appeared to come from her house. So how and when did she go to her home to get food, and get back to her abandoned car for Tony to pick her up?

Do they have buses? How far is it from there to her home?

 

[Spangle]

In Tony's new statement he says he took Casey to get the gas cans on the 20th....(that's why Casey remarks about running out of gas 2 Fridays in a row...20th & 27th)

In Lee's new statement he says Casey returned the cans to George on the 24th (Here's your fu***** cans).

Didn't GA claim the shed was broken into when the gas cans was stolen?

 

[suspicious mind]

I wonder if there is anyone out there who has actually ever had a dead squirrel plastered to the frame of their car? Is this even possible or doe it go against every law of physics? if you ran over it....nah...if it crawled up in the motor...nah..hmmmmm

 

[MiraclesHappen]

Exactly what I have been thinking.

Has Tony pick her up as witness to the car not being in her possession, then plans to come back later move the car and torch it saying it must have been stolen....But the tow yard got there before she could execute her plan. She had a delay in finding new gas cans because her dad took back the gas cans she was going to use. Purchasing them was a last resort because KC did not want a record of it.

In fact she may have run out of gas intentionally the week before to set the stage that it was a common thing for her to run out of gas.

Lots of stolen cars torched here.

I still think she may have parked the car at Amscot and let it idle till it ran out of gas.

Maybe she didn't have the foresight to realize that having it run out of gas (having set the stage for that, as Cher says and getting herself picked up for that reason) was not going to jive with leaving it to be stolen. Could just be poor planning. People make really dumb mistakes if they cannot handle pressure.
Not that the squirrel story isn't the smoothest thing I've ever heard.

 

[CaptLogic]

I still think she parked the car at Amscot and let it idle till it ran out of gas.

Maybe she didn't have the foresight to realize that having it run out of gas (setting the stage for that and getting herself picked up for that reason) was not going to jive with leaving it to be stolen. Could just be poor planning. Not that the squirrel story isn't the smoothest thing I've ever heard.

Letting it idle might account for the 7am-11am time difference, if she truly didn't know how much gas was in it.

 

[Baznme]

:waitasec: Not sure.......but she wouldnt of had much money for gas to drive around anyway. Well, no money until she stole cash from Amy. The cc's she has from her mother was jcpenny & stuff. I'm thinking Casey really didnt have any money as in gas money until Amy left for PR, but she may have stole a few bucks here and there along with food from home. LA claimed she was going into the house often stealing & getting clothes.

KC had over $200 dollars in her wallet when the police came to the house after Cindy had called. Cindy took the money out of the wallet, remember? I think that would have been KC's way of later saying, "I didn't buy any gas can"......I don't know what you're talking about. That's maybe why she corralled Amy into doing it.

Also, I think maybe she didn't follow thru with taking that car out and torching it as she would have had to take it out so far, how would she get back? That would be KC, worrying about her own butt.

 

[El Gato]

argh...the freakin gas cans!!!

 

[tx_Dot]

It would be interesting to know how much gas was still in the cans when GA got them back.

And I'm still puzzling over Lee's statement that Casey gave them back vs. George saying he took them back out of the car. Somehow I'm still thinking GA took them back when he got the car back from impound.

IF the cans were still in the car after the 24th, why would Casey be calling around for 3 (27th-30th) days looking for another gas can ??

 

[Lady Loves Lurking]

I think.

I think she did live in a Fantasy World. One that was self-serving. One where Caylee never existed.

I just think you guys are giving her too much credit tonight.



:runaway:

 

[mommya]

About the purse left in the car - was it empty? Cuz the stuff dumped on the floor - when cindy pocketed the cash and all that - that stuff came from a bag taken from Tony's didn't it? That seemed like purse stuff.

 

[Spangle]

No Joke....I'm 150 miles from the TX coast, but we saw many evacuee's w/ gas cans tied to the top of cars etc during the IKE evac......after Katrina & Rita many small towns in TX were out of gas, the evac's bought it all up.

Maybe Casey was getting ready for a hurricane.......LOL (prolly the one you can drink)

Having a gas can for emergency is part of the "Hurricane Planning Guide lists" that are passed out. Before a storm, Folks are told to fill up their tanks, just in case one needs to evacuate. The gas cans are for the same reason. Also, if electricity is out, the Gas stations can not pump gas.

So it wouldn't be odd for AH to have 1 stored away. Not in Florida.

 

[suspicious mind]

if only the helpful folks who pushed her car into the parking lot would come forward.

 

[MiraclesHappen]

I wonder if there is anyone out there who has actually ever had a dead squirrel plastered to the frame of their car? Is this even possible or doe it go against every law of physics? if you ran over it....nah...if it crawled up in the motor...nah..hmmmmm

If you have an impact with a larger object in the road, such as a pedestrian, it is not unusual for the pedestrian to be picked up (plastered to the grill) and carried a ways, say like 30 feet and then dumped on the pavement with tremendous force.

That's the correct physics of it, according to what I've been told by LE investigating fatal accidents.
I also saw it happen in real life; I happened to be there. The victim was an 11 year old who was picked up by a vehicle's grill and carried. The head injuries were fatal. One of the worst things I have ever seen. I eneded up jumping out of my car and directing traffic around the child in the road., What a scene. I still see it in slo mo.
But the squirrel would just go under the tires. Interesting she knows what happens when a human is struck at a high enough rate of speed, depending on size.

How freakin big was this squirrel.

 

[MiraclesHappen]

Letting it idle might account for the 7am-11am time difference, if she truly didn't know how much gas was in it.

Yup that's how I explain the time diff in that theory.

 

[Baznme]

What bothers me is the fact that an employee of Amscot stated she first saw KC's car parked by the dumpsters at approx. 7:00am on the morning of the 27th, yet if Tony did not pick KC up until around 11:00am, where was KC right before the car was spotted until the time Tony picked her up from that location? We are talking at least a 4 hour difference. Also Tony claims that KC was standing outside of her car, hold a bag of groceries. He stated that the bags looked like bags she just tood from her home, as they were not from any particular store. He claimed the bags contained Tyson chicken and freezy pops, that appeared to come from her house. So how and when did she go to her home to get food, and get back to her abandoned car for Tony to pick her up?

I don't think she did go home at all. I think whoever she stayed with that night before has a Tyson chicken and a freezepops missing.

 

[Spangle]

I wonder if there is anyone out there who has actually ever had a dead squirrel plastered to the frame of their car? Is this even possible or doe it go against every law of physics? if you ran over it....nah...if it crawled up in the motor...nah..hmmmmm

I have heard of cats getting up there. Which pretty much says a squirrel could. I just never heard of a squirrel wanting to.... Plenty of cat stories.... no squirrel stories. This is the first for me.

 

[El Gato]

I wonder if there is anyone out there who has actually ever had a dead squirrel plastered to the frame of their car? Is this even possible or doe it go against every law of physics? if you ran over it....nah...if it crawled up in the motor...nah..hmmmmm

We hit a deer once and the deer lived to the point 'it left the scene of the accident' lol, we still had damage to the car..lol