Maybe she didn't abandon the car - Gas cans will solve the case.

[tx_Dot]

Didn't GA claim the shed was broken into when the gas cans was stolen?

Yep, that's what GA said, but he also said it happened between the 22nd & the 24th, he reported it on the 24th.....

but if we believe what TonE now says, Casey got the gas cans on the 20th.

(LOL...guess GA keeps up w/fashion better than he does his gas cans)

 

[Reannan]

I think this was planned. KC is good at deception and lying. So planning out how to get rid of the body would have been something she would be good at. Lie over lie, weave in some truth and facts from other aspects of her life to make it confusing, a little bit of this or that... that's how it's done.

Although, leaving the car there may have been a mistake she didn't count on. That is how she got caught, so logically she didn't plan that.

I totally agree! I can't help but remember how she lied to the police officers as they followed her down the hall way at Universal Studio to "her office" that didn't even exist! I can't even fathom the psyche of someone who thinks they can accompany LE to a fake office and get away with it!!! The absurdity and boldness of her actions that we know to be factual, allow me to believe that she ran out of gas at the Amscott with Caylee's body inside and then dumped the body in the dumpster, apparently go walk around for a period of 4 hours, purchase groceries, call Tony, and have him come and pick her up as if nothing was amiss, except running out of gas! You and I could NEVER do that - but I would NEVER lead LE down a hallway to an office that never existed. This case will be a landmark case for psychology students for the rest of mankind's history.

 

[tx_Dot]

Here's the gas can that JJ found on one of the searches.


http://www.josephsjordan.com/caylee/Caylee007.JPG

EDIT: I guess it doesn't look as new as I thought. There's white stuff (probably from the sun) on the top. hummm

Hard to tell....too bad they didn't collect it.

 

[the by and by]

Did anyone else notice the pretty little blue flowers around the red gas can. Did someone mention the color blue being of some significance on another thread? I always thought the gas cans sent a red flag up for me from the beginning. Wonder if her search for chloroform had anything to do with needing gas for clean-up or to mask the odor.

 

[CarrieBean]

I still think she may have parked the car at Amscot and let it idle till it ran out of gas.

Maybe she didn't have the foresight to realize that having it run out of gas (having set the stage for that, as Cher says and getting herself picked up for that reason) was not going to jive with leaving it to be stolen. Could just be poor planning. People make really dumb mistakes if they cannot handle pressure.
Not that the squirrel story isn't the smoothest thing I've ever heard.

Maybe the plan was not to have it stolen, but to have it broken into...to make it look like it had been stolen. Was her purse left on the seat in clear view?

 

[Reannan]

How freakin big was this squirrel.

I like you MiaraclesHappen! Glad you are here at WS's. Sorry about what you had to witness, but I am impressed that you got out of your car and helped - you fit in nicely here. :blowkiss:

 

[Baznme]

Yep, that's what GA said, but he also said it happened between the 22nd & the 24th, he reported it on the 24th.....

but if we believe what TonE now says, Casey got the gas cans on the 20th.

(LOL...guess GA keeps up w/fashion better than he does his gas cans)

That's also the last time BB (the neighbor) saw KC at the house, the 20th but it was with someone in a small pickup truck, (green he thinks). White male driving with dark hair.

 

[El Gato]

I think.

I think she did live in a Fantasy World. One that was self-serving. One where Caylee never existed.

I just think you guys are giving her too much credit tonight.



:runaway:

Not me! I feel she is in deep doodie and deserves it. I don't claim that lightly either.

She made her bed.

The end....

 

[Baznme]

Maybe the plan was not to have it stolen, but to have it broken into...to make it look like it had been stolen. Was her purse left on the seat in clear view?

Yes and I believe the keys also.

 

[Spangle]

It would be interesting to know how much gas was still in the cans when GA got them back.

And I'm still puzzling over Lee's statement that Casey gave them back vs. George saying he took them back out of the car. Somehow I'm still thinking GA took them back when he got the car back from impound.

To versions of the same story. GA demanded them (took them). KC coughed them up (gave them) She didn't really have a choice, he was going to take them out of her trunk anyway. Which is why GA says he 'took'. Plus as I understand it, he was the one who had to take them out of the trunk, etc. She was there, but he did the lifting. <shrug>

He had them when the car was impounded. He was told it was out of gas and brought the gas cans to the tow yard. Since they had not talked to KC yet, I'm not sure how they knew it ran out of gas yet. Or if they just assumed that was why it was left there. That was in the first set of documents released. Until they were told the car was at the tow yard, they thought she was in North Florida.

 

[Baznme]

Not me! I feel she is in deep doodie and deserves it. I don't claim that lightly either.

She made her bed.

The end....

I have faith that LE has what they need to charge her but I'm not real sure at this point. I keep looking to see if TES is coming back. On the radio broadcast, I thought I heard TM say in about a week but I haven't seen anything on here to back that up. We need to find this baby I think to clench this case. Does anyone know?

 

[Busylady]

i think she didnt tell Tony it was out of gas that day because she didnt want him going close to the car and smelling it. I think she had every intention of getting the car back after it "aired" out but by that time it had been towed.

If her wallet was left in the car, then how did LA pick that up from Tony's house the night it was reported to the police that Caylee was missing. Remember CinA was looking in the wallet took the cash and the police officer grabbed some kind of id from it per LA interview with police.

 

[Baznme]

i think she didnt tell Tony it was out of gas that day because she didnt want him going close to the car and smelling it. I think she had every intention of getting the car back after it "aired" out but by that time it had been towed.

If her wallet was left in the car, then how did LA pick that up from Tony's house the night it was reported to the police that Caylee was missing. Remember CinA was looking in the wallet took the cash and the police officer grabbed some kind of id from it per LA interview with police.

Her wallet was in her backpack or whatever it was at Tony's. Her purse was left in the car.

 

[El Gato]

I have faith that LE has what they need to charge her but I'm not real sure at this point. I keep looking to see if TES is coming back. On the radio broadcast, I thought I heard TM say in about a week but I haven't seen anything on here to back that up. We need to find this baby I think to clench this case. Does anyone know?

Yeah, I have all my faith in Orange County,

I think they know what they are doing.

But gosh,,,the suspense is very overwhelming.

 

[Luzer]

From first hand experience living with a female teen/young twenties sociopath, Casey probably used the gas cans several times to fuel her car. (Why did George suddenly decide to lock the shed after June 16? Tough Love?) She was living at home before, though, so she could just open the shed and fill up when Mom and Dad were gone when she could not get gas very easily any other way. Or she might have taken coins from change jars at the house or something else to get gas. But, since she wasn't staying overnights at the house anymore after June 15/16, she had to come back on the 20th to get the cans as she did not have any other way to get funds for fuel. I don't think she was conniving to get gas cans to burn the car. Even though it was 10 years old, that car was what she drove.

I think she started the dead animal story in case someone came in contact with her car. She knew she needed some kind of cover. She had probably been starting to formulate different scenarios for Caylee being gone. She had just not decided on the best course for her.

In my opinion, Caylee died in the trunk and Casey left her there for several days, trying to figure out the best scenario for Casey to tell. Then, Casey ran out of gas again because it is just too much trouble to watch your gauge and pay for gas yourself. She got the car into the parking lot, and disposed of Caylee, then planted the foodstuffs for an explanation of the rotten smell. (I know she told Amy about the dead animal, but by this time, Casey is on a new lie and the old lie of a dead animal does not matter to her anymore.) Or, (which I hate to think about) she left Caylee's body in the car, and the garbage just happened to be in the car (hoping the car would be stolen in the parking lot but wasn't) and George found the body after he picked up the car from impound and he disposed of the body. I don't know if the death smell would still be as strong after 2 weeks in impound without a body - that is something that needs to be addressed.

All of us have to remember that when dealing with a sociopath, what happens in any situation is of no consequence to the sociopath as long as the sociopath gets to keep on doing what they want and getting what they want. For the most part, sociopaths don't sit around planning elaborate schemes to cover up what they have done, because in their mind, whatever they do is just fine. They only come up with a scheme when they are called on their actions or they realize that what they have done is so heinous they need a plan in place to cover their actions.

 

[tx_Dot]

About the purse left in the car - was it empty? Cuz the stuff dumped on the floor - when cindy pocketed the cash and all that - that stuff came from a bag taken from Tony's didn't it? That seemed like purse stuff.

Early on IIRC Casey told Lee something about purses.......I think about the missing sim card.....I've always thought this purse in the car was not her 'everyday' purse.......& yes, When Cindy emptied the bag Casey's wallet was there, w/her DL & *maybe* a phony ID (per LEE), credit cards & money.

 

[Baznme]

Yeah, I have all my faith in Orange County,

I think they know what they are doing.

But gosh,,,the suspense is very overwhelming.

Well, I do too but I was wondering if anyone had heard any more solid info as to when TES was coming back to Orlando. If we could just find where she put her, she surely would be answering for what she has done.

 

[Spangle]

Yep, that's what GA said, but he also said it happened between the 22nd & the 24th, he reported it on the 24th.....

but if we believe what TonE now says, Casey got the gas cans on the 20th.

(LOL...guess GA keeps up w/fashion better than he does his gas cans)

There is also the possiblity that the shed was broken into during that time. Only the gas cans were not stolen. GA reported what he seen missing. Not knowing his daughter took them days earlier.

 

[Baznme]

Early on IIRC Casey told Lee something about purses.......I think about the missing sim card.....I've always thought this purse in the car was not her 'everyday' purse.......& yes, When Cindy emptied the bag Casey's wallet was there, w/her DL & *maybe* a phony ID (per LEE), credit cards & money.

From the video's I've seen of KC going from/to the attorney's office, she doesn't carry a purse. Seems to be a (white) backpack. Which brings to mind that GA said that the 16th, the day he saw KC and Caylee leaving that KC had a black backpack. Haven't seen that anywhere in photos but I did see one recovered from Blanchard Park in the pic's.

 

[Cerenity2u]

I don't think she did go home at all. I think whoever she stayed with that night before has a Tyson chicken and a freezepops missing.

Good point, she had to be staying somewhere on the 26th. Guess I need to go back and find out more about the 26th, and all the whos, wheres, and whats. I think the date of the 26th is an important one, considering the car was abandoned, and spotted at the amscott so early in the morning on the 27th. The report also indicated that the car remained in the parking lot for 3 days before it was towed to impound.