MD - Cockeysville teen charged in murders of parents, two brothers *Guilty*

[southcitymom]

......The punk needs to get the needle quick, before we waste anymore of the states resources keeping him alive.

He is inelligible for the death penalty. Even though he has been charged as an adult, his age prohibits the DP.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It seems to be that if you had a kid who was capable of doing something like this that you would have some clues that he wasn't "all there", but I guess you really don't. Who really knows what goes on inside the mind of another person.

I think that is the scariest part of all. Many times there are no clues to what is dwelling in the mind of the wicked who wishes you dead. How can a parent or family wrap their heads around the thought that their very own children would do something this depraved?

And more and more it seems it isn't the abused neglected kid. It is the one that has a good, decent and supportive family who is very much trying to do their best to raise their child.

It is so frightening. In a couple days we know of one teen who completely wipes out his entire family. Just wait it will be something trivial like he didn't get his way about something or they were trying to see he acted responsibly. And then another teen wipes out his parents.

That is 6 deaths by homicide in such a short time committed by a teenager and I am sure there are others that we haven't heard about.

How scary that the child you brought into this world and made sacrifices for is the very one you have to fear the most.

imoo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

He is inelligible for the death penalty. Even though he has been charged as an adult, his age prohibits the DP.

Well hopefully he will be given LWOP.

imoo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

But what kind of lie can they come up with to excuse the fact that he killed his two younger siblings? The punk needs to get the needle quick, before we waste anymore of the states resources keeping him alive.

They have got to start coming down hard on these teenage killers. Hand spanks are ridiculous and gives no justice to the victims they brutally murdered.

It doesn't matter that it was his father's weapon. The gun could have been purchased for protection.......This kid is the one that made it into a murder weapon. That gun would have sat there and gather dust if he hadn't touch it. He is the one that implemented the gun as a murder weapon. If he hadn't had that he most likely would have used a ball bat to bash them in the head.

This type of kids are dangerous and must be put away from society at large. More and more we see teens wantonly murdering at will and most of the time it is all because they didn't get their way and their world is filled with nothing but "ME ME ME" and "I will show you who's boss."

imoo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

IMO, attorney's will come up with his parents abused him, just like the Menendez brothers. Remember them? Betcha, any takers?

I wouldn't be surprised.......that seems to be the rave defense of today.

But imo it will not fly......he sure cant claim his little brothers abused him.

imoo

 

[OneLostGrl]

Watch, his lawyer will say "the kid was on an anti-depressent and that's why he killed them all." I find the anti-depressent excuse to be more common now then the "parents abused 'em" excuse.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Remember the boy who murdered his parents then went to the prom?!!! I believe he even had friends in after the prom or over the weekend while his parents bodies were downstairs wrapped in blankets. Now that was a cold little s.o.b. This kid is no better. He goes on to his friends and must not have acted any different then usual...then goes home and "discovers" the murders.

I was a teen brat and got mad at my mom and dad but the thought of murdering then never ever crossed my mind. I just got mad and pouted and wouldn't talk...BRAT! I would have killed myself before ever hurting my parents.

Like others here, I want to know why the siblings? Doesn't sound like it was for money that he thought he had coming and wanted it NOW. I wonder why him and his dad argued or even if they did.

This little sociopath will have a long time to think about what he did and how his life will have changed. Prison will not be fun for this young man. Even if he is sent to a section for teens until he turns 18 yrs he will find out what rough, tough, and hard to diaper really means. Cause he will be in with some hard core kids. Just what he deserves.

 

[paddy01]

I wouldn't be surprised.......that seems to be the rave defense of today.

But imo it will not fly......he sure cant claim his little brothers abused him.

imoo

IMHO, this was not an abused young man, by his own admission he states
"I had a disagreement with my father". He didn't say, my father was beating, molesting & torturing me, while my mother stood by and did nothing! Why kill his younger brothers? I would like to know what the disagreement was over, was it because he couldn't spend the weekend with his buddy? The same buddy he spent the weekend with, seeings how his entire family was dead? I remember my kids getting po'd at me for not letting them spend the night or not letting them go to a party with no adult supervision. Guess I'm lucky to be alive!

 

[MeoW333]

Watch, his lawyer will say "the kid was on an anti-depressent and that's why he killed them all." I find the anti-depressent excuse to be more common now then the "parents abused 'em" excuse.

While a child being on anti-depressants is not an excuse to murder, it is not coincidence that almost all of the school shooters and many other young killers were on some type of anti-depressant, mostly SSRIs. Anti-depressants are now being proving not to even work as they should.
I would like to add, that when my nephew was on medication for A.D.D., his behaviors were much worse.
Many medications seem to flatten their emotions or something.

 

[ember]

Wow, he went to Dulaney High school.
I went to Dulaney High School when I used to live in nearby Luthersville, MD.
Dulaney is one of the best public high schools in the country and the kids that go there are mostly from upper class families.
Just goes to show you evil knows no class.
How weird...it feels kind of funny when you recognize your old high school as one that had such a cold blooded murderer in its midst.

 

[MeoW333]

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=Nicholas+Waggoner+Browning+md&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn

Click under raw video Police Spokesman Talks About Arrest
Evidently it was premeditated.

http://wcco.com/national/teen.nicholas.browning.2.645415.html
(update request for 1 million bail denied; shows picture)

 

[OneLostGrl]

While a child being on anti-depressants is not an excuse to murder, it is not coincidence that almost all of the school shooters and many other young killers were on some type of anti-depressant, mostly SSRIs. Anti-depressants are now being proving not to even work as they should.
I would like to add, that when my nephew was on medication for A.D.D., his behaviors were much worse.
Many medications seem to flatten their emotions or something.

I don't want to hijack this thread but I would like to say that these kids you refer to, their troubles didn't begin when they started on Anti-depressants. They were troubled kids before the meds.. so, to me, I think it is much more likely that the meds didn't work for them and their illness (whatever that illness may be) progressed to the point of murder.

I understand what studies are saying about anti-depressants and I also understand that the FDA has to put out a Black box warning when giving Anti-depressants to kids, which I think is the right thing to do. But I tend not to have blind trust in studies.

If something works and I am affected by it, my entire life changed from it, there is no study they can publish that can convince me it doesn't work as it should.

Anyway- I'm sorry your nephew had an ikky reaction to his ADD meds, it sucks when you get your hopes up that something will help a person you love but then it doesn't!

 

[paddy01]

Neighbor describes Nicholas Browning as "Very polite, well mannered average teenage boy". Nicholas played on same Lacrosse team as her son.
Nicholas was an honor student, he played Varsity golf, and Lacrosse. He was working toward becoming Eagle scout and had built a prayer garden at his church. Parents were always involved in children's lives and activities. WTH, went wrong here? Does anybody know if LE has talked to any other relatives, grandparents, uncles, aunts? The reason I keep asking that question is, did anybody notice a change in his behavior prior to the murders or did this kid just get up that morning & decide to kill his entire family. None of the news articles says anything about drug use, prescription or illegal. LE & news keep saying he had a disagreement with father. I just don't get it.. Please don't think I'm looking for an excuse for this boy, just would like to know WTH happened.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

The state will have to spend millions prosecuting this little and more millions to house the fool for the rest of his life. Why can't we just shoot the thugs upon sight when they are this freaking sick!

Because this "little " is a child. We don't execute children. And, if he is indeed "sick," what he needs is help.

 

[j2mirish]

Because this "little " is a child. We don't execute children. And, if he is indeed "sick," what he needs is help.

he is beyond help at this point imo-
15 years old or not- he was not living on the streets-crackhead, roof over his head and honor roll, varisty sports player, eagle scout and member of a church-
imo- someone who is "sick" does not pull this off without a diagnosis of some sort sooner- sounds more to be like a spoiled brat gone bad.....
I dont know.......shaking my head...........

 

[southcitymom]

he is beyond help at this point imo-
15 years old or not- he was not living on the streets-crackhead, roof over his head and honor roll, varisty sports player, eagle scout and member of a church-
imo- someone who is "sick" does not pull this off without a diagnosis of some sort sooner- sounds more to be like a spoiled brat gone bad.....
I dont know.......shaking my head...........

How do we know this, j2m? We know so little about the boy or the case -it's jaw-dropping right now because he and the family seemed so normal. There is just no piece of me that can give up on a 15-year-old boy - especially when so little is know.

Disclaimer (not for you, friend, but for those who might not know me): I do not think there is any excuse for what he did, but I am very interested to learn more about what led to this unfathomable tragedy.

 

[southcitymom]

.....a child. We don't execute children. ......

Absolutely - and thank God for that.

Some piece of me does have to wonder if some sudden onset mental illness is at play - though I readily admit that it is just as likely that he may be a sociopath. I guess we will learn more in time.

 

[j2mirish]

How do we know this, j2m? We know so little about the boy or the case -it's jaw-dropping right now because he and the family seemed so normal. There is just no piece of me that can give up on a 15-year-old boy - especially when so little is know.

Disclaimer (not for you, friend, but for those who might not know me): I do not think there is any excuse for what he did, but I am very interested to learn more about what led to this unfathomable tragedy.

we dont know- I agree-- yes- it is jaw dropping- makes me wonder if I should look at my 13 yo over my shoulder, as she could be written about the same way, except age & gender-of course at this point of knowing only what we do- kwim? how can somone who can be so "sane" - be so sick ? scarey
( :blowkiss: scm)

 

[Taximom]

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I don't want to hijack this thread but I would like to say that these kids you refer to, their troubles didn't begin when they started on Anti-depressants. They were troubled kids before the meds.. so, to me, I think it is much more likely that the meds didn't work for them and their illness (whatever that illness may be) progressed to the point of murder.

I understand what studies are saying about anti-depressants and I also understand that the FDA has to put out a Black box warning when giving Anti-depressants to kids, which I think is the right thing to do. But I tend not to have blind trust in studies.

If something works and I am affected by it, my entire life changed from it, there is no study they can publish that can convince me it doesn't work as it should.

Anyway- I'm sorry your nephew had an ikky reaction to his ADD meds, it sucks when you get your hopes up that something will help a person you love but then it doesn't!

I'm not excusing his behavior either, but loved this post, OneLostGrl.

 

[concernedperson]

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I'm not excusing his behavior either, but loved this post, OneLostGrl.

I do too. My brother has been ill mentally for a long time. He is on meds that seem to be working. I know he feels grief as my mom just died and I saw his pain. He is in pain too. I know I have been less than stellar about posting some of his conflicts as I just didn't understand.

I am not excusing this kids behavior at all but I don't think children should be executed.