Found Deceased MD - David Gipson Smith, 28, Howard County, 6 Aug 2017

[Grouchymom]

Why even bother to put a map in that article? It's just completely in the wrong place.

It's REALLY close to where David was supposedly last seen. But it's been 100 days, would there just be skeletal remains at this point?
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Here is a basic guide to human decomposition. Arrow ding to it 4 months at 50 degrees is skeletonization faster at higher temps.

 

[pamelado2]

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Here is a basic guide to human decomposition. Arrow ding to it 4 months at 50 degrees is skeletonization faster at higher temps.

Well it was warmer temps. Yikes. I wonder how long it will take to give height, hair color, etc.

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[Bit of hope]

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Here is a basic guide to human decomposition. Arrow ding to it 4 months at 50 degrees is skeletonization faster at higher temps.

Hi verified Grouchymom....I tried to search for it...hahaha but what does verified Crouchymom mean? Sorry that I have to ask for this.....

 

[abstr]

Why even bother to put a map in that article? It's just completely in the wrong place.

It's REALLY close to where David was supposedly last seen. But it's been 100 days, would there just be skeletal remains at this point?

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Unless they changed it the map on WTOP was correct (as is yours).
I will say this, Brookeville is a beautiful little area and one of the last places I'd imagine a body being discovered.

 

[Grouchymom]

Hi verified Grouchymom....I tried to search for it...hahaha but what does verified Grouchymom mean? Sorry that I have to ask for this.....

My older children when growing up repeatedly verified their belief that I was a grouchy mom every time I used that horrible word “no” so after years of hearing “don’t be so grouchy mom” or “why are you so grouchy mom” I decided I must be doing my job right and took it be a badge of honor.

 

[phycoerythrin]

Also where Tyler Tessier is from and up the road a couple miles from where Laura Wallen lived. This is all quite unusual for the community. Lot of tragedies here lately up and down Georgia Ave.

 

[Bit of hope]

https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/17218 I think this is the one mentioned up this thread. Found 11/13/2017, skeletal remains found near cemetery, Montgomery County, Maryland. Not much info yet. Age undetermined, DNA tests not completed, dentals: charting is available and will be entered later They found a Cell phone and loose change with the body.

 

[pamelado2]

Why does it say "identification potential - low"?

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[houndpounder]

Because there is so much decomposition they can not even determine the sex of the UID. Which means it has most likely been there for quite a few years. In that case it would not be David.

 

[pamelado2]

Because there is so much decomposition they can not even determine the sex of the UID. Which means it has most likely been there for quite a few years. In that case it would not be David.

The article says they believe it's under a year old.

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[doodles1211]

It may mean that they will need to be identified via DNA as the only means. Once a profile is obtained then the ID potential might change to a higher level. This is just me guessing...

 

[pamelado2]

Per the missing page on FB David's mother has been informed that these are not David's remains

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[Bit of hope]

Why does it say "identification potential - low"?

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I think it's because they still processing things.....it feels like a first entering in Namus and later on they are going to add things...I could be totally wrong...

 

[Bit of hope]

Per the missing page on FB David's mother has been informed that these are not David's remains

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I hope they put David on the rule out list for this UID, makes the search (and the content of this thread) more accurate.

 

[houndpounder]

The article says they believe it's under a year old.

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I am basing it on Namus ME pathologists report as opposed to articles. There is no mention of how long it's been there.



Demographics

Estimated age	Cannot Determine
Minimum age	years
Maximum age	years
Race	Unsure
Ethnicity
Sex	Unsure
Weight (pounds)	, Cannot Estimate
Height (inches)	, Cannot Estimate

	All parts recovered
	Head not recovered
	Torso not recovered
	One or more limbs not recovered
	One or both hands not recovered

[TD="colspan: 2"] Body Parts Inventory (Check all that apply) [/TD]

Body conditions

Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only

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Probable year of death	to
Estimated postmortem interval	https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/17218

 

[doodles1211]

Could this be David? https://identifyus.org/en/cases/17128 Sure hope not. UID was found on September 05, 2017, in shallow grave, with no head. Not much information. Wheaton is just 37 minutes from Ellicott city....

Found this msm on this victim tonight. Arrests made, but still not id'd. Sad. Someone is missing this person.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/2...apitated-had-heart-ripped-out-police-say.html

 

[Claireishere]

I think per his missing fb page that the body was identified and it wasn’t David.


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[Bit of hope]

I think the body was not identified but ruled out being David....

 

[Grouchymom]

I think per his missing fb page that the body was identified and it wasn’t David.


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I submitted David’s info for this one several weeks ago and have yet to hear back but I found out earlier today that this body was missing a front tooth and I don’t understand how they know without the head. But David has not been excluded here yet.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/2...apitated-had-heart-ripped-out-police-say.html

[h=1]Case Report - NamUs UP # 17128[/h][h=1]Case Information[/h]

Status	Unidentified
Case number	17-10073
Date found	September 05, 2017 09:55
Date created	October 16, 2017 11:40
Date last modified	November 14, 2017 14:27
Investigating agency date QA reviewed

[h=3]Local Contact (ME/C or Other)[/h]

Agency	MD Ofc of Chief St Med Examiner
Phone	410-333-3225

[h=3]Case Manager[/h]

Name	Joe Mullin
Phone	410-333-3271

[h=1]Demographics[/h]

Estimated age	Cannot Determine
Minimum age	9 years
Maximum age	99 years
Race	Unsure
Ethnicity	Other
Sex	Unsure
Weight (pounds)	126, Estimated
Height (inches)	, Cannot Estimate

	All parts recovered
	Head not recovered
	Torso not recovered
	One or more limbs not recovered
	One or both hands not recovered

[TD="colspan: 2"][h=3]Body Parts Inventory (Check all that apply)[/h][/TD]

Body conditions

Not recognizable - Decomposing/putrefaction

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Probable year of death	2016 to 2017
Estimated postmortem interval

[h=1]Circumstances[/h]

GPS coordinates
Address 1	11715 Orebaugh Avenue
Address 2
City	Wheaton
State	Maryland
Zip code	20902
County	Montgomery

[TD="colspan: 2"][h=3]Location Found[/h][/TD]

Circumstances

Decedent found buried in shallow grave.

[h=1]Physical[/h]

	Hair color	Unknown or Completely Bald
	Head hair
	Body hair
	Facial hair
	Left eye color	Unknown or Missing
	Right eye color	Unknown or Missing
	Eye description
	Amputations
	Deformities
	Scars and marks
	Tattoos
	Piercings
	Artificial body parts and aids
	Finger and toe nails
	Other distinctive physical characteristics

[TD="colspan: 3"]

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[/TD]

[TD="colspan: 2"]No other distinctive body features[/TD]

[TD="colspan: 2"]Distinctive features as described below[/TD]

[TD="colspan: 3"]

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[/TD]

[h=1]Medical[/h]

	Medical implants
	Foreign objects
	Skeletal findings
	Organ absent
	Prior surgery
	Other medical information

[h=1]Fingerprints[/h]

Status:

[TD="class: view_field"]Fingerprint information is currently not available[/TD]

[h=1]Clothing and Accessories[/h]

[TD="colspan: 2"]No clothing or accessories[/TD]

[TD="colspan: 2"]Clothing and accessories are described below[/TD]

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Clothing on body	Wearing clothing; descriptions not available at this time.
Clothing with body
Footwear
Jewelry
Eyewear
Other items found with body

[h=1]Dental[/h]

Status:

[TD="class: view_field"]Dental information / charting is available and will be entered later[/TD]

[h=1]DNA[/h]

Status:

[TD="class: view_field"]Samples submitted - Tests not complete[/TD]

[h=1]Images[/h][TABLE="class: images"]
[TR]
[TD]There are currently no images available for this case.



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[h=1]Documents[/h][TABLE="class: documents"]
[TR]
[TD]There are currently no documents available for this case.



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Originally Posted by pamelado2 The article says they believe it's under a year old.

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I am basing it on Namus ME pathologists report as opposed to articles. There is no mention of how long it's been there.



Demographics

[TABLE="class: cms_table"]
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[TD]Estimated age[/TD]
[TD]Cannot Determine[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Minimum age[/TD]
[TD]years[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Maximum age[/TD]
[TD]years[/TD]
[/TR]
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[TD]Race[/TD]
[TD]Unsure[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Ethnicity[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sex[/TD]
[TD]Unsure[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Weight (pounds)[/TD]
[TD], Cannot Estimate[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Height (inches)[/TD]
[TD], Cannot Estimate[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


[TABLE="class: cms_table"]
[TR]
[TD="colspan: 2"]Body Parts Inventory (Check all that apply)[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]All parts recovered[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Head not recovered[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]Torso not recovered[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]One or more limbs not recovered[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]One or both hands not recovered[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: cms_table"]
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[TD]Body conditions[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only[/TD]
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[TABLE="class: cms_table"]
[TR]
[TD]Probable year of death[/TD]
[TD]to[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Estimated postmortem interval[/TD]
[TD]https://www.identifyus.org/en/cases/17218[/TD]
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i doubt that this is David. It I have sent his info in to be excluded here also.

I still have the body found down the embankment off 695 in Anne Arundel County around the 22nd of September.

I have gotten some info from some of David’s friends and it leads me to believe that if he is alive (which some of his family doubts) he is likely to be in a rehab. I have learned that he has been in more than 1 rehab in more than one state.

And david’s Case number is here:

Case number

[TD="class: view_field"] 17-79737 [/TD]

 

[Bit of hope]

I submitted David’s info for this one several weeks ago and have yet to hear back but I found out earlier today that this body was missing a front tooth and I don’t understand how they know without the head. But David has not been excluded here yet.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/2...apitated-had-heart-ripped-out-police-say.html

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i doubt that this is David. It I have sent his info in to be excluded here also.

I still have the body found down the embankment off 695 in Anne Arundel County around the 22nd of September.

I have gotten some info from some of David’s friends and it leads me to believe that if he is alive (which some of his family doubts) he is likely to be in a rehab. I have learned that he has been in more than 1 rehab in more than one state.

And david’s Case number is here:

Thanks Grouchy mom, for the update. The gang victim (the above case) was believed to be Hispanic. Maybe somebody of the arrested scum remembered him missing a tooth but don't know who he is. Poor guy....disgusting story.... I don't think it is David either. And still hoping David is indeed in a rehab.