MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #5

[Auburnmommyof2]

Do we know it was a male cousin who also lived there? Or could it have been a female? I'm surprised her mom let her stay there if there was a male living there, other than mj.

 

[watchful_eye]

Deena, MJ, and his cousin KNOW what happened. I live 15 min outside Bmore. I rarely hear anything about her on the news anymore. Come on Balitmore, don't give up on this lovely young woman. She deserves better.

 

[summer_breeze]

http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-na...olice-baffled-by-missing-teen-s-disappearance

March 25th, 2011 8:18 pm ET
Cindy Adams
Crime Examiner

Baltimore, Maryland - On Thursday, police noted that they still have no idea what happened to North Carolina teen Phylicia Barnes, who vanished over three months ago.

 

[Falconi]

Okay. Are we to believe this? How many times will the story change? Who is the person that's having delayed reaction, brain freeze or sleepy thoughts?

I thought the story was that DB, KB and PB were having family night. There is a comment somewhere on FB where KB mentions the early night activity on the 27th.

Next, it was added that LBC spent the night and had to be picked up early morning.

Now, the story is that, DB, PB, MJ, his 16yr old brother and the 21 yr old cousin were at the apt at one point or another (together) on the evening of the 27th. So, this is probably around the time certain issues began. Perhaps the day before on the 26th even. We can see the story is still chopped up into pieces. I guess KB was also visiting at the apt.

Does anyone know for certain what apt DB, KB and PB were having family night at? Were they at DB's apt or KB's apt?

Something is not right about (when MJ was due to move). There's no way LBC would still be shacking up at DB's apt if MJ had to move. LBC name was not on the lease. Maybe the 16 yr old and the 21 yr old cousin was helping MJ to move items (which shouldn't have been a huge amount of items). The apt is only so big.

It is not stated what time the young men left the apt. Did they stay until MJ rolled out to work or where ever he went? Did the other two remain at the apt? Are we going to hear next that two of the young men spent the night? smh.

It was confirmed that PB touched base with friends from NC through internet connection on the 27th of Dec. Has it been confirmed what day and time when PB expressed (uneasy) concerns to her sister from NC?

So, for right now, (if) some type of differences or disagreements took place the closest date to Dec 28th, it would be the 27th, perhaps the 26th. From this article, if it's worded correctly, we see 3 young men who were hanging around the apt (close to the date of the 28th). We also know that late night of the 27th, MJ and Lil G were hanging tight with one another and if the 2 of them were smoking some kind of crazy weed, I don't see how MJ would have been able to go to work the night of the 27th

Deena, MJ, and his cousin KNOW what happened. I live 15 min outside Bmore. I rarely hear anything about her on the news anymore. Come on Balitmore, don't give up on this lovely young woman. She deserves better.

BBM

I couldn't agree more with both of you, investigate1 and watchful_eye.

This is one twisted tale. And if I'm not mistaken, the "family night" happened at db's place on the 27th. On the Peas interview, kb was having difficulty remembering what night she was last at db's. She mentioned that the last time that she was there at db's, was that "movie and popcorn night."

If I'm incorrect, someone please advise.

I don't know what it's going to take before this "oath of silence" is broken. If you tell 1/2 of the truth, guess what, it's still a LIE.

LE, PLEASE arrest someone for something. Already we've heard of illegal drugs and alcohol being given to a minor; we know that use of illegal drugs were and are a favorite past time of these POI's and others. Isn't possession a crime?

WHAT's THE HOLD UP?!!!!

Lock them up already, and they'll sing like a BIRD.

Let Aesop tell the fables, we want the TRUTH and we want PB!!

The WORLD is watching. You can't turn off the world...

 

[BACH50]

Okay. Are we to believe this? How many times will the story change? Who is the person that's having delayed reaction, brain freeze or sleepy thoughts?

I thought the story was that DB, KB and PB were having family night. There is a comment somewhere on FB where KB mentions the early night activity on the 27th.

Next, it was added that LBC spent the night and had to be picked up early morning.

Now, the story is that, DB, PB, MJ, his 16yr old brother and the 21 yr old cousin were at the apt at one point or another (together) on the evening of the 27th. So, this is probably around the time certain issues began. Perhaps the day before on the 26th even. We can see the story is still chopped up into pieces. I guess KB was also visiting at the apt.

Does anyone know for certain what apt DB, KB and PB were having family night at? Were they at DB's apt or KB's apt?

Something is not right about (when MJ was due to move). There's no way LBC would still be shacking up at DB's apt if MJ had to move. LBC name was not on the lease. Maybe the 16 yr old and the 21 yr old cousin was helping MJ to move items (which shouldn't have been a huge amount of items). The apt is only so big.

It is not stated what time the young men left the apt. Did they stay until MJ rolled out to work or where ever he went? Did the other two remain at the apt? Are we going to hear next that two of the young men spent the night? smh.

It was confirmed that PB touched base with friends from NC through internet connection on the 27th of Dec. Has it been confirmed what day and time when PB expressed (uneasy) concerns to her sister from NC?

So, for right now, (if) some type of differences or disagreements took place the closest date to Dec 28th, it would be the 27th, perhaps the 26th. From this article, if it's worded correctly, we see 3 young men who were hanging around the apt (close to the date of the 28th). We also know that late night of the 27th, MJ and Lil G were hanging tight with one another and if the 2 of them were smoking some kind of crazy weed, I don't see how MJ would have been able to go to work the night of the 27th

If you listen to the Peas interview with KB she appeared to a little confused as to what night she was there at DB's (26th or 27th)? I said in an earlier post the I believe that she was there on the night of the 26th, because it was a Sunday. How KB couldn't remember the exact day was puzzling to me, especially since she had already spoken with LE?

I think the night of the 27th when Lil GJ and MJ were getting high was at the apt. and that is when PB was also getting high with them as well. According to what JS said on NG. This is mostl likely when the person made the pass at PB. If only JS's other daughter would talk, and let us know when the pass at PB and the smoking and drinking that PB mentioned to her took place?

As far as all of those males staying there??? that was the problem that JS had with DB. JS said on NG that DB told her that MJ would have already moved out by the time PB arrived Dec 17th. JS said she had no idea that MJ was still living there. Also JS didn't seem to know that the other two were staying or living there???? I don't think JS would have let PB go and stay with DB if she knew that those 3 males were staying there or even spending the night. I really don't understand why DB would have her little 16 year old sister staying in a situation like that or why she would allow herself to live like that?

Also if DB and PB were sharing a room, where did MJ sleep? If they had just moved into the apt. within the last year, then they must have broken up shortly after they moved in?

Why didn't KB have PB stay with her? To me the problem began with DB allowing PB to stay in the apt. period, without her cleaning house prior to her arrival. The fact that DB lived like that with MJ and his other relatives speaks volume to me about her character. I don't care if you are married, a young lady does not live with a group of males. Even worse DB was shacking up not only with her boyfriend, but his cousin and lil' brother as well. Where was her parents in all of this?

 

[georgiajean]

I think we need to go back to the timeline that was established after the Barnes siblings interviewed on Peas.

At that time, under pressure from a hostile caller, KB backtracked and figured out that it was the 26th that she spent the evening baking cookies and watching movies with PB and DB, because Monday was a work night.
And we need to go back to the notion that there was drugs and alcohol at the apartment the night of the 27th. If MJ, the cousin, and the little brother were there then evening of the 27th, there is a high probability that drugs and alcohol were also there (based on following comments on social networking sites).

This lines up with PB talking to her sister in NC on the 27th, saying she was uncomfortable and that someone made a sexual advance at her, which she turned away.

This lines up with MJ and 18-yr-old brother smoking some laced weed the night of the 27th.

I agree that I can't reconcile MJ going to work Monday night, if he was ripped. But, who knows what his job requires of him, how much he actually does. If he's a night clerk at a hotel, he probably has very little to do.

IMO, Drugs and alcohol being in the apartment the night of the 27th also lines up with PB being rather out of it on Tuesday, and falling asleep mid day. What I am thinking is that if things had happened Monday night, DB and KB would be more likely to go along with PB falling asleep. "Oh, yeah, she did have a big night last night, haha" That kind of thing.

 

[georgiajean]

If you listen to the Peas interview with KB she appeared to a little confused as to what night she was there at DB's (26th or 27th)? I said in an earlier post the I believe that she was there on the night of the 26th, because it was a Sunday. How KB couldn't remember the exact day was puzzling to me, especially since she had already spoken with LE?

I think the night of the 27th when Lil GJ and MJ were getting high was at the apt. and that is when PB was also getting high with them as well. According to what JS said on NG. This is mostl likely when the person made the pass at PB. If only JS's other daughter would talk, and let us know when the pass at PB and the smoking and drinking that PB mentioned to her took place?

As far as all of those males staying there??? that was the problem that JS had with DB. JS said on NG that DB told her that MJ would have already moved out by the time PB arrived Dec 17th. JS said she had no idea that MJ was still living there. Also JS didn't seem to know that the other two were staying or living there???? I don't think JS would have let PB go and stay with DB if she knew that those 3 males were staying there or even spending the night. I really don't understand why DB would have her little 16 year old sister staying in a situation like that or why she would allow herself to live like that?

Also if DB and PB were sharing a room, where did MJ sleep? If they had just moved into the apt. within the last year, then they must have broken up shortly after they moved in?

Why didn't KB have PB stay with her? To me the problem began with DB allowing PB to stay in the apt. period, without her cleaning house prior to her arrival. The fact that DB lived like that with MJ and his other relatives speaks volume to me about her character. I don't care if you are married, a young lady does not live with a group of males. Even worse DB was shacking up not only with her boyfriend, but his cousin and lil' brother as well. Where was her parents in all of this?

I agree thinking that Sunday/26th being the girls' night, and Monday, the 27th, being the "party" night. Why it is so hard to get a timeline, I do not understand. Except that people who are partying tend to not have good time sense. JMO.

I really, really wish SS (sister in NC) would give an interview. Let us know what you knew was happening. Let us know when these things occurred, help us piece it together. I assume she has already spoken with LE, and revealed everything?

MJ and DB moved into the apartment sometime in the summer (DB, Peas Interview). They had been there for six months. According to MJ, they had been broken up for 6 months (Find PB Facebook, now extinct), but I think that is more self-serving twists of truth. It may have been "over" in his mind, looking back, but they rented an apartment together.

 

[georgiajean]

It is not stated what time the young men left the apt. Did they stay until MJ rolled out to work or where ever he went? Did the other two remain at the apt? Are we going to hear next that two of the young men spent the night? smh.

(respectfully snipped by me)

I looked at my notes, and went back to examine things on social media more closely, given this new information.
The cousin who was staying there, it appears he was at work by 9, and depending on how far away he worked, he probably left work around the same time as DB. DB knew MJ was picking up his lil bro around 9, so DB made a gamble and thought it would be okay. I have to keep reminding myself that she had been with these people for ten years. She had normalized their behavior and who they were, and she saw them as family, and not dangerous at all. She had normalized it. Very, very sad.
Looking back at the Peas interview, clearly the little brother/cousin confusion came from the fact that BOTH a little brother and a cousin were staying at the house. Why couldn't they just say that WHY ALL THE COVER UP? It only makes it clear that things are being hidden. Why not just speak the truth? You all are already in deep, deep water. Nothing is going to make it better, except coming completely clean. Your life as you knew it is over.

Big questions:

1. Where was MJ the night of the 27th? He and other younger bro got ripped that night. Where were they?
2. Where does MJ work, and what does his job entail?
3. Was the popcorn/cookie/movie night Sunday or Monday?
4. How long had the cousin been a room mate?
5. Why was the 16yr old brother staying at the apartment that night, and how often did he stay there?
6. When was the LAST PHONE VOICE contact PB had with anyone, and is that person credible?
7. WHO is the person who made a sexual advance at PB?

 

[summer_breeze]

http://www.wcnc.com/news/local/NBCs-Today-features-missing-Monroe-teen-118719289.html

by NewsChannel 36 Staff
WCNC.com
Posted on March 26, 2011 at 9:02 PM

CHARLOTTE,N.C. -- A Monroe girl who has been missing for three months was featured on NBC's Today show in the hopes that national exposure might help investigators find the missing 17-year-old.

 

[Malini2001]

So if on the evening of the 27th, Lil B, cousn (who lived there) and MJ were there what happen to cousin on the 28th. Did DB leave PB with both Lil B and cousin on the morning of the 28th. If so that was not a very smart thing to do. Wake her up and make her go with you no matter how sleepy she may have been. I wonder if the cousin is the same one who PB told had made a pass at her? Sounds like he could have been the one?

I don't think I would take a shower with three males in the apt. especially if one had made a prior sexual advance at me. Poor PB she never had a chance.
If I were LE I would definitely check with all 3 of these males past relationships or any females that they may have come into contact with. Because one if not more of them is a predotar just like Pat Brown said on FB. I am really leaning toward rape as the motive now?????

Why isn't anyone saying that both MJ and cousin were the last ones there who saw PB. When did cousin exit the apt.? Those 3 POI's are definitely the ones that if I were LE, I would stay on their trail. Because one of them will slip-up soon, whether it be a traffice ticket or any unlawful contact with LE. They will then want to plea out and that is when they will start singing like a bird. It make take awhile but if they are responsible for this crime then they will most definitely do something again because they think that they have gotten away with this one.

Now I know why MJ told the lies that he told, because he thought that DB would believe him if he said that PB mentioned going to get something to eat. Because it was common for her to do. However one thing that MJ didn't realize is that PB would have let DB, and KB know that she was going, and her scent would have been picked-up and she would have showed up on the cameras. Some type of communication would have been made by PB if she was leaving that house alone. I still think she would have also taken the dog as well. Also I can't see PB going out alone to get something to eat while other people were there at the apt. that would not only offer to go with her but take her as well????? Why would she wait until she was alone to get something to eat, and how could she have asleep and getting something to eat all at the same time. KB not stopping by the apt. really makes me wonder, and makes me sad. If only.........?

MJ thinks he really knows how to lie and cover this one up but little does he know "THE WATER ALWAYS RISES TO THE TOP". I just pray that it is sooner than later.

Dogs wouldn't be allowed in the mall, or the food court. But I don't think she went to the mall in her new slipper boots anyway, they would have gotten filthy walking across the parking lot. She didn't leave to go anywhere on foot. Maybe she left to get into a car, or maybe she was forced out. I could see her having the slippers on then.

 

[investigate1]

On a previous page, there was mentioning of LBC hanging out late somewhere nearby DB's apt. I wonder if he brought some type of drug that he didn't know much about. Some young people get very silly and will use their friends as experiments to see how that person or persons react to an unfamiliar drug before they attempt to touch it. If alcohol and some type of drug were used, it could result in an accidental overdose. Too many actors and actresses have died from accidental overdoses. Even alcohol and sleeping pills can be a deadly combination. This is what happened to the guy who created Herbalife. If this was something accidental, they should have called 911. It looks worse now for the guilty ones. Imagine all of the charges they will face.

That's a possibility. I read somewhere on this thread where you mentioned having to change your screen name on FB for whatever reasons. Don't allow that to get to you. We always appreciate when you post here. I think one of the rules must be to not post psychic stuff. (I'm not certain). Please continue to keep us posted the best way you can. As you know, we need to bring attention to PB's name. You've brought good information at times and I hope you continue to keep us posted.

 

[investigate1]

I'm still stunned over the 16yr old and also the 21yr old (cousin?), along with MJ being at the apt on the 27th, when it was stated that it was family night on that night.

Another thought that came to my mind in regards to whose apt was it. Lil G often referenced the apt to be DB's apt while chatting with others and even other people have stated the apt to be DB's apt. Such as saying, "It was like when we were at Deenz crib" or Lil G would say something like, "I'm going to Deenz crib" or Dees spot etc...

Does anyone know if the side kick had her own crib? Most times, I saw social Network pics, it seems as if she more so hang over to the J's places. If this is the case, MJ and the other woman were probably hanging out at Big G's place after everyone moved out of DB's apt. Maybe that explains why MJ stayed with DB so long; because he did care for her but she also had her own place. I haven't seen any documents that shows both of their names on a lease.

PB seemed to be okay up until around Dec 28th. I even saw to where as PB thumbs up on Lil G's fb post after Dec 17th. PB's friends said that PB seemed to be okay on the 26th (although) JS (PB's Mother), didn't get to communicate with PB at all on the 26th. Yet, JS did speak to PB on X-mas day. JS didn't get to speak to PB for 2 days, even b4 PB came up missing. That's strange in itself. We do know that JS was attempting to contact PB for those 2 days but for some reason PB did not return those calls to her mother; yet, called her sis (SS) on the 27th to let her know that SOMETHING WAS WRONG. Maybe PB didn't speak to her mother for those 2 days because moms can always tell in their child's voice if something is wrong. But maybe PB didn't think it would be THAT serious. The 27th call to her sis (SS) was a little late (not unless things just happened so suddenly) that PB made the call as soon as she could to her sis (SS). (SS) with held the information from (JS), which delayed one of PB's alerts. PB's next alerts were also too late and unsuccessful. Which was, the FB post she posted, alerting ppl that she was alone with MJ in the apt, along with a text to DB, which alerted DB to call PB and ask PB was MJ in the apt. We know DB asked PB if MJ was at the apt because MJ says that he overheard PB say "yea, he here, he doin laundry". Well, if only the 2 sisters reacted differently, PB might not be missing and I think that's tearing DB's heart apart. She needs to be stronger than ever right now.

After that, everything went down hill. No one could contact or locate PB anymore. Now, we need to think about, where would they travel too. The reports keep saying that PB's scent truly stops at the front door of the building. They keep reporting this over and over again now.

 

[investigate1]

Some people tend to think or lean more on the side of PB going walking to grab some lunch or perhaps someone stopped by and offered to buy, there-fore PB rushed off with that person(s). The problem with that is, PB lost phone contact at least 30 to 45 mins b4 MJ left. PB allegedly falls asleep too quickly. They can't blame it on the phone battery being dead because MJ stated that he saw and heard the phone ringing and vibrating or one or the other. Why did Big G feel the need to tell that story about poor phone reception. I saw nowhere that people complained about poor phone reception and Big G visits the least I think he may have said. If MJ didn't do it, he need to tell who took PB and where did they take her too and who told them to take her!

 

[georgiajean]

Some people tend to think or lean more on the side of PB going walking to grab some lunch or perhaps someone stopped by and offered to buy, there-fore PB rushed off with that person(s). The problem with that is, PB lost phone contact at least 30 to 45 mins b4 MJ left. PB allegedly falls asleep too quickly. They can't blame it on the phone battery being dead because MJ stated that he saw and heard the phone ringing and vibrating or one or the other. Why did Big G feel the need to tell that story about poor phone reception. I saw nowhere that people complained about poor phone reception and Big G visits the least I think he may have said. If MJ didn't do it, he need to tell who took PB and where did they take her too and who told them to take her!

I have often wondered about this. Did MJ give the timeline he gave, thinking it would clear him? Or did he honestly leave at 1:30, and PB honestly was taken from the home by someone else? Is that possible? Because he places himself right in the middle of things, with the time frame he gives. Not sure why he would incriminate himself, unless he thought everyone was so stupid, they'd never figure it out, never be able to get the evidence to pin it on him... Perhaps he and PB were already gone from the house, and he gave the text at 1:04 to keep KB and DB away from the house, away from discovering the truth? I would hope LE would know, with cell phone records.

And note to those involved... you are not smart enough to get away with this forever. Is it worth it, your few days of freedom? Whoever speaks first gets the best deal...

 

[Sun48shine]

That's a possibility. I read somewhere on this thread where you mentioned having to change your screen name on FB for whatever reasons. Don't allow that to get to you. We always appreciate when you post here. I think one of the rules must be to not post psychic stuff. (I'm not certain). Please continue to keep us posted the best way you can. As you know, we need to bring attention to PB's name. You've brought good information at times and I hope you continue to keep us posted.

For clarification of me changing my Facebook screen name, I changed it back in February after several of us on the Praying for Phylicia Barnes page were naming MJ, his brothers, cousins and friends by their names, as suspects. Shortly after that, several of their friends started requesting me as a friend. Since I am from Baltimore, I didn't want them to track my address down.

I have been passing out flyers throughout various communities in surrounding counties and I dropped off flyers at the Reisterstown Road Plaza. I was talking to one of Phylicia's relatives today. He has searched so many areas, but with no luck. This week, I went out searching surrounding counties, but no luck either. We are trying to keep her case from going cold because so many young females have disappeared in Maryland within the past year and no more searches have been done on them. Here is some news that I just learned about. MJ is trying to keep his little brother quiet because he said that MJ did not come back to the apartment in the evening hours. PB liked the little brother. MJ works somewhere in downtown Baltimore around Russell Street.

 

[cluciano63]

If P was okay and/or alive when MJ left, she would have been texting or on the phone or on the computer...I don't believe she walked out of the building alone, first of all, and I don't believe the "convenient" stranger happened by right after MJ left and grabbed her and somehow got her out of the building.

I don't understand why her scent seems to stop at the door of the building, but we have all seen issues with dogs before. If she got into a car at or near the door, she was getting into or being put MJ's car, in my opinion.

 

[georgiajean]

For clarification of me changing my Facebook screen name, I changed it back in February after several of us on the Praying for Phylicia Barnes page were naming MJ, his brothers, cousins and friends by their names, as suspects. Shortly after that, several of their friends started requesting me as a friend. Since I am from Baltimore, I didn't want them to track my address down.

I have been passing out flyers throughout various communities in surrounding counties and I dropped off flyers at the Reisterstown Road Plaza. I was talking to one of Phylicia's relatives today. He has searched so many areas, but with no luck. This week, I went out searching surrounding counties, but no luck either. We are trying to keep her case from going cold because so many young females have disappeared in Maryland within the past year and no more searches have been done on them. Here is some news that I just learned about. MJ is trying to keep his little brother quiet because he said that MJ did not come back to the apartment in the evening hours. PB liked the little brother. MJ works somewhere in downtown Baltimore around Russell Street.

There are two younger brothers that I know of. Are you referring to the youngest bro, who spent the night there on the 27th (the 16 yr old) or the 18 yr old? It's important to me, because I have all these notes from social networking sites, and I can look back to check some things if I know which one it was.
Thank you very much.

 

[katydid23]

Do we know it was a male cousin who also lived there? Or could it have been a female? I'm surprised her mom let her stay there if there was a male living there, other than mj.

One of the reasons PB's mother is so very angry, and rightfully so, is that she was assured by DB that the ex bf would be moved out by the time PB arrived.
Evidently they lied to her and I don't blame her for being so upset about that.

 

[investigate1]

I have a question to ask about sniff dogs. I'm going to word it differently out of respect.

There was a dog that could sniff out snakes. A man was moving and accidentally packed his pet snake. He packed away some items in a luggage bag and tied it to the roof/top of his car. A couple of other items were being pulled on the small trailer hooked to his transportation. After the man arrived to his destination, he unhooked the trailer and put his belongings in storage and went on about his business.

Would the dog be able to pick up the snakes scent inside of the car if the snake was packed and placed on top of the car or the trailer that has already been detached and removed from the vehicle.

 

[fleur.de.lis]

One thing I noticed in the Washington Post article is that it referred to KB's job as assistant manager of a childcare center in Columbia. I believe we previously thought she worked in Washington D.C., which is much further away. In Columbia, KB was only been about 25 minutes from the apartment. If she were in D.C. she would have been 45-60 minutes away, depending on traffic.