MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #5

[Sun48shine]

True Sun48shine. While I was looking for information on PB's case online, I ran across a psychic site. Decided to read some of the comments. They were wild. Some were wild and crazy even. I saw the Muslim gentleman doing his psychic work on the find PB FB group. smh. He stopped posting after someone here typed that DB's (I think) step-father is Muslim. I don't know if that's why he stopped but I know that's when he stopped. I don't know what to say about the psychics. There are so many ppl that have been missing for yrs now. I remember when they busted Cleo and didn't Dionne Warwick try to do the psychic thing as well?

Someone posted a video here on psychics. Might have been you Sun48shine. Can't remember but it was very interesting to view the video.
Staying prayed up for PB. Let's not quit or give up searching for PB until she is found or until closure comes about; and yes, I pray PB is still alive. Her mother, family members and friend are heart-broken. Heart-felt :-(

Frostbyte posted the video. I was glad to see it because so many people here in Baltimore pay psychics money to tell their future. I prefer not to hear about my future. Whatever happens, will happen.

 

[Sun48shine]

Yeah, LIL G was typing about walmart shortly after PB had lost all phone contacts. I think he also stopped somewhere else first b/c he tweeted something like "hurry up and buy". I thought he was grabbing some fast food but maybe he was talking about the ppl in the Walmart line. I wonder what did he get from Walmart? Sun48shine, do you know where the closest walmart is located by DB's apt?

Someone took PB somewhere. It was very cold out that day wasn't it. Did it snow around the 28th? I think the first time PB was moved, she was on the inside of someones place. Does the guys have music studios or home labs is what we called it yrs ago.

The closest Walmart to DB's apt is on Route 40 (Edmondson Ave), by Rolling Road. 15 - 20 minutes away from DB's apt, depending if you go through Rolling Road and hit back roads to DB's apt, or you can get on 695 North and get their in 10 - 15 minutes. It did not snow during that week. It was extremely cold that day. That entire week was extremely cold. Not sure if they have their own studio, but there are a lot of music studios throughout Baltimore. Some DJs have music equipment and allow their friends to practice on it. A co-worker of mine has a music studio in the inner city (East Baltimore) and one in Owings Mills, Maryland (Baltimore County).

 

[Sun48shine]

The closest Walmart to DB's apt is on Route 40 (Edmondson Ave), by Rolling Road. 15 - 20 minutes away from DB's apt, depending if you go through Rolling Road and hit back roads to DB's apt, or you can get on 695 North and get their in 10 - 15 minutes. It did not snow during that week. It was extremely cold that day. That entire week was extremely cold. Not sure if they have their own studio, but there are a lot of music studios throughout Baltimore. Some DJs have music equipment and allow their friends to practice on it. A co-worker of mine has a music studio in the inner city (East Baltimore) and one in Owings Mills, Maryland (Baltimore County).

There is also a Walmart on Reisterstown Road in Owings Mills, Maryland but most people who live in or visiting the Reisterstown Road Plaza area, Pikesville and Owings Mills areas will go to this Walmart.

People who live in West Baltimore and Southwest Baltimore usually go to the Walmart on Route 40 by Rolling Road.

 

[investigate1]

There is also a Walmart on Reisterstown Road in Owings Mills, Maryland but most people who live in or visiting the Reisterstown Road Plaza area, Pikesville and Owings Mills areas will go to this Walmart.

People who live in West Baltimore and Southwest Baltimore usually go to the Walmart on Route 40 by Rolling Road.

Thank you much Sun48shine. By the way, I like your profile name. It makes me smile. What do you think about the timing on LiL G's activity between 12:30 and 2:30pm. So, most likely he would take that Rollings street to get to Walmart from DB apt?

What is your opinion on how many vehicles were used/ Such as, do you think the 30 yr old brother may have drove to DB's apt in his own wheels, what about LIL G, do you think he had his own wheels on that day as well and LBC may have borrowed someones wheels. I would almost think that the brothers borrowed someone else transportation. I figure if it's true that MJ arrived at 9ish am and saw PB there, if he indeed picked up LBC, took him a relatives place, I'd think MJ began planning on the way to the relatives place and finish planning there

Sun48shine, have you heard anyone mention where MJ's place of duty is located or can you whisper in someones ear that you can trust, that might know MJ's place of employment. (and) thanks for the correction about the video.

 

[Sun48shine]

Thank you much Sun48shine. By the way, I like your profile name. It makes me smile. What do you think about the timing on LiL G's activity between 12:30 and 2:30pm. So, most likely he would take that Rollings street to get to Walmart from DB apt?

What is your opinion on how many vehicles were used/ Such as, do you think the 30 yr old brother may have drove to DB's apt in his own wheels, what about LIL G, do you think he had his own wheels on that day as well and LBC may have borrowed someones wheels. I would almost think that the brothers borrowed someone else transportation. I figure if it's true that MJ arrived at 9ish am and saw PB there, if he indeed picked up LBC, took him a relatives place, I'd think MJ began planning on the way to the relatives place and finish planning there

Sun48shine, have you heard anyone mention where MJ's place of duty is located or can you whisper in someones ear that you can trust, that might know MJ's place of employment. (and) thanks for the correction about the video.

Since MJ was supposed to be at DB's apartment, I think that Lil GJ went to Walmart from his 4900 Stafford Rd area, then headed down Rolling Road to DB's apartment to meet MJ. I saw some on Facebook or MySpace of their pictures where they were talking about all of the cars they have. Most of those cars were probably MJ's and Big GJ's. MJ had a 97 Lexus car back in 2008. Not sure what he drives now. He must have been working near the Dundalk area in 2008. His court record for speeding showed 9:45pm. He was stopped by the Maryland Transit Authority Police by the Francis Scott Key Bridge. I am not sure where he works.

 

[jade32]

sorry that it took some time to give my thoughts about this case,but here in Holland there was news about a missing person's case, that they found a body. So we are all waiting, if it's the woman who was missing. She dissapeared without a trace....

Anyway, here are my points and questions:

- is it known if they checked where the last sign of Phylicia's cell has been? Was it at the appartment or somewhere else?

- a couple of times it was said that MJ saw her asleep on the couch at 1.30 To me it seems
weird that if she was asleep at 8.45 still, then why would she be asleep again after getting her shower

- why if she wanted to get something to eat, would she go back to sleep on the couch?

- if pb was asleep on the couch and K was calling her, wouldn't she got awake from hearing her phone?

-Would it be possible that the moment MJ saw her asleep on the couch that she was probably not alive or
unconsious at the moment?

-possibility something happened in the shower, that's why no proof of foul play and or struggle, how does that fit the timeline?

- is it possible that mj did something to pb and had help from his brothers, friends, nephew, to get rid of evidence and phylicia

- open door loud music seemed staged to me...

- Can they use cadaver dogs? They can smell if a dead body has been there... Even if it's been a while...

Sorry if it's a bit messed up, but I always just put everything down that I think it's important. Sorry if things are already answered or explained. Ofcourse these are all just questions I have and just a theory of things. And my honest opinion...:innocent:

Hopefully Phylicia will be found soon... she just needs to be found...

 

[georgiajean]

You bring up many good questions/points.
I have responded to them, in bold, below.
Thank you for posting, and helping renew my focus.

sorry that it took some time to give my thoughts about this case,but here in Holland there was news about a missing person's case, that they found a body. So we are all waiting, if it's the woman who was missing. She dissapeared without a trace.... (I hope she is found)

Anyway, here are my points and questions:

- is it known if they checked where the last sign of Phylicia's cell has been? Was it at the appartment or somewhere else? We have not heard any information from LE about PB's cell phone, except that it has not been used since 12:23, when she last sent a text.

- a couple of times it was said that MJ saw her asleep on the couch at 1.30 To me it seems
weird that if she was asleep at 8.45 still, then why would she be asleep again after getting her shower Agreed. We have wrestled with this. It only makes sense to me if
a) she did drugs/alcohol in the morning, and that made her sleepy,
b) she stayed up way, way too late
c) she was sick or not feeling well.
d) Another thought is that the "falling asleep/fell asleep" is a euphemism for something else. I have searched the Urban Dictionary, and found a reference to falling asleep after smoking a big joint, and a reference to hurting someone as retribution/revenge.

- why if she wanted to get something to eat, would she go back to sleep on the couch? Exactly.

- if pb was asleep on the couch and K was calling her, wouldn't she got awake from hearing her phone? Yup. MJ said her phone was on vibrate on the table, and when he heard it going off, he finally texted DB at 1:04 to tell her why PB wasn't answering her phone (she was asleep). This makes no sense, as she texted DB at 12:23.

-Would it be possible that the moment MJ saw her asleep on the couch that she was probably not alive or
unconsious at the moment? I think it is very possible that MJ seeing her asleep meant something else entirely. She "looked" asleep, but her actual state was not, IMO, natural sleep.

-possibility something happened in the shower, that's why no proof of foul play and or struggle, how does that fit the timeline? If PB hadn't spoken to her sisters via phone, I would say it fits well. But they claim they spoke to her between 10 and 11, and MJ said she spoke to them on the phone after she got out of the shower. I do not recall if she mentioned to her sisters that she had gotten out of the shower already?? If all we have to go on is MJ, then it's pretty shaky, at best.

- is it possible that mj did something to pb and had help from his brothers, friends, nephew, to get rid of evidence and phylicia Yes, very possible. LE has interviewed everyone, taken evidence from vehicles and homes, and says they came up with nothing. So it goes back to Investigate's theory about borrowing cars. One family member works for a courier service, another family member works at a hotel. So they had access to work vehicles. Has LE tracked down those vehicles? I would really like to know that they have.

- open door loud music seemed staged to me... Staged or completely made up, imo.

- Can they use cadaver dogs? They can smell if a dead body has been there... Even if it's been a while... Several posters here have worked on the dog angle. We know that dogs were used, but not exactly what kind, and not exactly where/how/when. With the snow and weather, I guess it was hard, and a lot of the evidence would have been gone??

Sorry if it's a bit messed up, but I always just put everything down that I think it's important. Sorry if things are already answered or explained. Ofcourse these are all just questions I have and just a theory of things. And my honest opinion...:innocent: Please keep posting questions and ideas. Never know when something will trigger something for someone, that puts us on the right path!

Hopefully Phylicia will be found soon... she just needs to be found...

 

[BACH50]

I agree that she had already gotten out of the shower. I am not sure if I would have felt comfortable showing why other male parties were in the apt., especially if one of them had made a pass at me before.

PB, I do believe was really too trusting of MJ and some of his family members. She so wanted to fit in with all of them, the Barnes and the Johnson's.
I also think that the loud music was staged because MJ knew that KB or DB would come looking for PB and he made it seem like she left and was returning shortly. However he didn't think about the cell phone factor. PB not answering her cell phone raises serious concerns to all, her mother, her friends and the rest of her family??????

I think that MJ had already taken PB when the last call around 12:30pm was placed or received from KB. The only reason MJ texted KB or DB back at that time was to buy more time, because the crime was definitely being committed at that time. Whether it was PB getting in the car, or being violated or whatever. However if PB last texted or called around 12:30pm then shortly after that she most likely got into the car. PB appeared to text all of her moves on a regular basis, so to stop suddenly means that someone else is making moves for her, and she has no access to her phone nor computer.

Also I don't think that any of the crime happened in the apt. The luring for PB to get something to eat most definitely, but the actual crime might have occurred in the car or some place else? This is why I think that MJ had help and there are few clues. Remember the dog was in the apt. so no fowl play could have been done in the dogs presents. Also there is no way that the door could have been left open and the dog was still in the apt. So MJ had to be lying about the whole thing about him coming back around 4:30pm and finding the door unlocked and the music loud. I hope that LE really sees the lies that MJ is telling.

I also agree that when MJ said that she was asleep on the couch around 1:30pm he meant that wherever she was she most likely was out of it most likely due to drugs (maybe put in her food)? or from her spoking something. I think that they put a date rape drug in her food when they took her to get something to eat. PB was very young at heart and most likely didn't think that she was in any kind of danger until it was too late. And she never even realized anything???

Poor child, I really feel sad for her MOM and I really don't know what to say about DB or KB. They really need to stop acting like victims and start acting like loving big sisters who will do anything to find their little sister.

 

[jade32]

You bring up many good questions/points.
I have responded to them, in bold, below.
Thank you for posting, and helping renew my focus.

thank you for all your additions! I still believe that MJ knows more and involved or maybe is the main suspect.

about the dogs, I know from a different case, I believe john smith, with two missing ex wifes, that even after years (which was also in this case) and some cleanups, they can smell if there has been a dead human. But that was a cadaver dog. Too bad it's not known what dogs they used. I mean what if those dogs did smell Phylicia, only not walking herself, kwim??

I was looking for information about PB this afternoon and I came across a website called www.examiner.com... there was information, we already know about PB, but also some comments made by people below the articles. A couple of comments caught my eye, written by the same person. It was all in capitals and it appeared this person tried to get the focus of MJ or at least knew more about it. I don't know if I can put the comments here or what's allowed. I'm a bit new to that kind of sleuthing and posting. So sorry if I did something wrong....

 

[jade32]

I just came to think, that what if the theory of her being abducted when she went out to get something to eat is true... then if she did get out to get something to eat, and realized she maybe forgot her debit card (which to me already sounds unlogical), wouldn't there be clerks who recognize her photo?? Has the police been to nearest foodchains, to check out if PB has been there?

I believe that if she really went out on her own, someone would have seen her. Security camera's didn't pick her up, nobody saw her. And to what I've read about her, I don't think she'll get in a car with a stranger (due to the scent the dogs smelled). Phylicia where are you????

 

[BACH50]

Hello Jade,
I tried to find the examiner site, however I was not able to see any articles about PB with the link that you gave. Could you please find a way to give us the links to the blogs and articles that you are finding. I search daily for PB blogs and articles, yet I have not found anything that is current?

Also I don't think that PB left the apt. alone, simply because she would have let DB or KB know and yes someone at the food shops would have seen her?
The dog picked her scent up only as far as the parking lot. Also if PB would have walked to get some food wouldn't she have taken the dog with her????
Mostly too is the fact that she had on her new (white) slippers that she would not have worn across a parking lot to the food shops? Just trying to rule out things that I think didn't happen?

 

[katydid23]

Nancy Grace just did a short segment on Phylicia. She had a Baltimore detective on and unfortunately it sounded like they are at a dead end. He said they interviewed 4 or 5 people multiple times but still have nothing to go on, no physical evidence to lead them in any direction.

 

[Soul125]

Nancy Grace just did a short segment on Phylicia. She had a Baltimore detective on and unfortunately it sounded like they are at a dead end. He said they interviewed 4 or 5 people multiple times but still have nothing to go on, no physical evidence to lead them in any direction.

I have followed this case from the beginning and just wish somebody would come forward with what happened. It's sad that LE can't find that one piece of evidence that links them to something more.

 

[cluciano63]

Nancy Grace just did a short segment on Phylicia. She had a Baltimore detective on and unfortunately it sounded like they are at a dead end. He said they interviewed 4 or 5 people multiple times but still have nothing to go on, no physical evidence to lead them in any direction.

Was that a live show tonight? I saw the first part about the two boys kidnapped by their babysitter but I don't see anything about them on here, so am not sure...

 

[Auburnmommyof2]

Please help me think this through and understand everyone's thoughts.... If mj or one of his family members convinced her to leave with them, for whatever reason, do you think the intention was to ultimately kill her? I just don't get the feeling at all that they are the type to set out to kill. After finally finding some of their twitter accounts, I got the impression that one of them may have had previous gang affiliation. However, this same person was the only post I found on twitter that mentioned PB and it sounded like a sincere post about hoping she was ok. I think that if any of them intended to sexually assault her, they would know they'd get caught. Unless they had her so drugged up that she wouldn't remember anything that happened. I can't see them drugging her to have sex with her knowing KB was coming to get her. Maybe she was drugged at the apartment then taken somewhere to make their move and she never woke up? I still think it is possible that she left with someone, possibly MJ, and they ran into someone that had a vendetta against mj or the family and took or hurt PB. If this is the case, other lives have probably been threatened if the truth is ever told, kwim.

All of this is just my opinion and I pray for PB's mother and that the truth will be found out soon.

 

[georgiajean]

If you go to the examiner website, and search for PB (whole name), you come up with several articles. If you go to the comments sections of the articles, you'll see the comments posted.

Here's one of the articles:
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-na...-s-boyfriend-hires-lawyer-says-missing-girl-s

 

[investigate1]

If you go to the examiner website, and search for PB (whole name), you come up with several articles. If you go to the comments sections of the articles, you'll see the comments posted.

Here's one of the articles:
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-na...-s-boyfriend-hires-lawyer-says-missing-girl-s

Yeah, I read the comments earlier. I read the big caps lol. But, there was another comment that was interesting that was not in the big caps. It said something about a cousin being in the first news interview and someone having a grin or smirk on their face and that the public should view it again. Stated that, it could be found on youtube.

After I typed in PB's full name, I believe it was the first article or the newest update they have. If not the first article, then the second one

 

[investigate1]

The closest Walmart to DB's apt is on Route 40 (Edmondson Ave), by Rolling Road. 15 - 20 minutes away from DB's apt, depending if you go through Rolling Road and hit back roads to DB's apt, or you can get on 695 North and get their in 10 - 15 minutes. It did not snow during that week. It was extremely cold that day. That entire week was extremely cold. Not sure if they have their own studio, but there are a lot of music studios throughout Baltimore. Some DJs have music equipment and allow their friends to practice on it. A co-worker of mine has a music studio in the inner city (East Baltimore) and one in Owings Mills, Maryland (Baltimore County).

Thank you. I went to a map and viewed 695's route. I got a little dizzy from it looping around or going in a circle. Is this true that 695 goes in a circle? I'm not good with traveling (car wise) but if it does go in a circle, do you know how long it would take to complete the circle? Is 695 an outer loop that surrounds each of the family members home; as in, Does each family reside within the 695 circle? Is Dundalk located within the circle, except it's further out? Also, I'm trying to remember if any of the J's family members reside on or around Harlem Ln. I noticed There are a couple of streets with the name Harlem Ln but each street is close to one another.

On some of the social network accounts, I have seen some pics and a couple of video's to where as the setting appeared to be in some of the guys places of residence, where they have their own equipment etc and the internet/computers are an asset to their music production. It's much easier to produce music arrangements and beats these days with the help of modern day technology. I was wondering, Could one of those places be the first place PB was taken too, if so, and PB is no longer at one of those locations, she would have to be relocated again.

 

[katydid23]

Was that a live show tonight? I saw the first part about the two boys kidnapped by their babysitter but I don't see anything about them on here, so am not sure...

It was on about 45 minutes into the show. It was only one segment though. It looks like they were going to do a bigger part of the show, but those 2 boys were just kidnapped today so she went with that first.

 

[jade32]

If you go to the examiner website, and search for PB (whole name), you come up with several articles. If you go to the comments sections of the articles, you'll see the comments posted.

Here's one of the articles:
http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-na...-s-boyfriend-hires-lawyer-says-missing-girl-s

Thank you georgiajean for putting the link here!! i just couldn't came on earlier...