MD - Phylicia Barnes, 16, Baltimore, 28 Dec 2010 #5

[BACH50]

Hate to say this, but I think people lose interest in a case when it appears that someone connected to the victim is probably guilty, especially a case where a lot of young people were "hanging out" in an apartment that has the appearance of a "crash pad." If there is not a direct threat to the public (or the public does not perceive one, anyway) they move on. In some minds, it is more or less "solved" even if no charges and no P. We don't really hear much about Susan Powell or Stacy Peterson anymore. It's like, they are gone, but since we "know" who did it, people are not so interested. Excluding WS' ers and family and friends of course.

Still, I wish P's family would pressure NG. There are not too many other outlets.

I have to disagree, because most of the cases the guilty person is connected to the victim. There were a lot of things going on with the case where the child disappeared from the trailer home while her stepmother was supposed to be watching her, and Dad was at work (I can't remember the childs name). It sort of reminds me of PB's case. How she just disappeared and no one knows what happen to her. Drugs and partying was definitely part of the norm, and many people had access to the home. Yet NG continued to report on that case daily, even when nothing was going on, but she pushed and pushed until they arrested and charged the POI's with other crimes. I believe it is over a year later and they still haven't found the little girls body????

WHY CAN'T NG DO THIS FOR PB???? IS IT TRUE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT NG AND THE MEDIA??????

 

[BACH50]

I felt concerned, while reading a post on the prayer page, when one of the family members asked everyone to send them direct mails of any comments PB may have commented on (on FB) or of any information someone may have. (not quoted).

I felt uncomfortable because that information should go directly to the tip line or LE. We truly do not know who is truly being helpful or who is trying to protect the guilty party.

I haven't trusted this Barnes family from the beginning when this story first broke. Too many inconsistencies, too many mishaps, just too many things that should have never happened, and have no answers nor reasons????
They are a big part of why this case has gone the way it has, NOWHERE?

 

[cluciano63]

I have to disagree, because most of the cases the guilty person is connected to the victim. There were a lot of things going on with the case where the child disappeared from the trailer home while her stepmother was supposed to be watching her, and Dad was at work (I can't remember the childs name). It sort of reminds me of PB's case. How she just disappeared and no one knows what happen to her. Drugs and partying was definitely part of the norm, and many people had access to the home. Yet NG continued to report on that case daily, even when nothing was going on, but she pushed and pushed until they arrested and charged the POI's with other crimes. I believe it is over a year later and they still haven't found the little girls body????

WHY CAN'T NG DO THIS FOR PB???? IS IT TRUE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT NG AND THE MEDIA??????

NG got kind of addicted to the Haleigh Cummings case...but she lets other cases drop, i.e Kyron Horman for example.

 

[investigate1]

Here in America and all over the world, we will always have race issues. Everywhere I've traveled to, even across the waters, there were always racist people. I thank GOD I was raised to have love for all. We all are stars.

I do hope a day will come, where-as African/Black Americans begin to receive more TV coverage in regards to these type of cases; as the same, I hope a day will come, to where-as Black on Black crime fades; as all type of crimes should fade.

About Bmore. I am now learning the streets of Bmore from the amazing map work that has been provided by google and very skillful inside professionals (Thank you).

I'm trying to look for certain routes that can be taken to get to certain places. I'm also reviewing where some main roads end (what is located in those areas). Soon, I'm going to try and review tweets (time-lines on tweets) to see what would be located in those areas. Example. John Doe tweeted at 1:30pm last from his apt. The next time John Doe tweeted was at 1:50pm. (What is 20 minutes away in any direction)?

That might be hard to do but I'm still going to try. It will help me learn the streets better as well; along with shops such as Auto Zone, Nail Salons, Hotels, Music studios, ppl's homes, jobs etc..Tonight, I'm going to start at DB's old apt. Should I make a right or a left when I get to the main rd? Anybody know?

 

[georgiajean]

Much better audio on the BPD presser from March 28th. It's the same presser as the one I transcribed up-thread, but you can hear the reporters' questions much clearer.

One question that I couldn't hear before was "Do you think there will be an arrest made in this case, eventually?"

Anyway, here it is for those who have audio:
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/blog/2011/03/update_on_search_for_phylicia.html

 

[BACH50]

Here in America and all over the world, we will always have race issues. Everywhere I've traveled to, even across the waters, there were always racist people. I thank GOD I was raised to have love for all. We all are stars.

I do hope a day will come, where-as African/Black Americans begin to receive more TV coverage in regards to these type of cases; as the same, I hope a day will come, to where-as Black on Black crime fades; as all type of crimes should fade.

About Bmore. I am now learning the streets of Bmore from the amazing map work that has been provided by google and very skillful inside professionals (Thank you).

I'm trying to look for certain routes that can be taken to get to certain places. I'm also reviewing where some main roads end (what is located in those areas). Soon, I'm going to try and review tweets (time-lines on tweets) to see what would be located in those areas. Example. John Doe tweeted at 1:30pm last from his apt. The next time John Doe tweeted was at 1:50pm. (What is 20 minutes away in any direction)?

That might be hard to do but I'm still going to try. It will help me learn the streets better as well; along with shops such as Auto Zone, Nail Salons, Hotels, Music studios, ppl's homes, jobs etc..Tonight, I'm going to start at DB's old apt. Should I make a right or a left when I get to the main rd? Anybody know?

Not sure which way you should go first, try starting with the norm LEFT.
What you are doing makes sense, and I hope that LE has done the same on a bigger scale along with the phone records and pings of the POI's. I don't think all of the POI's disconnected their pings, we know of at least two that had phone trouble?

Also what you are doing is exactly what NG and the Jane lady on CNN do on their shows. If they could only do this for PB as well, what a difference it would make and it could possibly cause the POI's to break????

 

[BACH50]

Much better audio on the BPD presser from March 28th. It's the same presser as the one I transcribed up-thread, but you can hear the reporters' questions much clearer.

One question that I couldn't hear before was "Do you think there will be an arrest made in this case, eventually?"

Anyway, here it is for those who have audio:
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/blog/2011/03/update_on_search_for_phylicia.html

Like I said earlier LE knows who, they just need more (HOW?) evidence to prove to the courts. Soon and very Soon!!!!

 

[investigate1]

Much better audio on the BPD presser from March 28th. It's the same presser as the one I transcribed up-thread, but you can hear the reporters' questions much clearer.

One question that I couldn't hear before was "Do you think there will be an arrest made in this case, eventually?"

Anyway, here it is for those who have audio:
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/crime/blog/2011/03/update_on_search_for_phylicia.html

Nice footage. He looks like he needs some motivation and encouragement though. Okay, so it was said that the tips have slowed down a great deal. I would think, that's something that PB's abductors/small time enemies would LOVE to hear.

I guess the guilty crew (whoever they are) are feeling a little confident these days. However, I hope they remember that there is always quiet before the storm. I hope they realize that there are things that their eyes can not see but special types of equipment can pick up. Perhaps someone saw or heard something and haven't gotten enough courage to come forward as of yet.

Perhaps all that boasting that was done on the 28th of Dec will come back to bite them. Perhaps they made errors around 10-ish pm on the night of the 28th of Dec, when everybody wanted to know if everybody got back to their destinations okay. OR- maybe those 2 tweets and 1 text that was made around 6ish pm, on the 28th of Dec, made by 3 different family members on the J's side, might get them caught up. OR- maybe some of that SUBtweeting might end up laughing back at them last. They put their heart and soul into taking PB away. We're going to put our heart and soul into making certain things are balanced.

One of the young men, lol, typed, an eye for an eye;

but no one wants your eye. We just want PB back. However we can get her back. Stop being a coward. It wasn't cool for you to be doing ANYTHING with a little girl anyway (None of you). Anybody that put their hands on PB, (you know it wasn't right). I can't believe you're walking around feeling tough. It's sad when a clown can't get no claps or laughs. You're not getting nothing else but jail time.

We will continue to press forward in regards to finding out PB's last location. In the mean-time, I'm sure you will continue to drink, smoke mixed stuff in the hookah, eat unhealthy fast food, degrade girls/women while realizing that you do not have eyes all around your head. You can't see the back of you better than others can. The public is watching you (rightfully so). You turned your back on that fight you created, started on the 28th of Dec, you turned your back on that fight as soon as you thought it was finished. It's not finished until closure has been made. You should do some back tracking. We're gonna watcha.

I love the maps that Google and others provide. It helps to see the streets the cowards (whoever they are) were traveling on.

Does anyone know anything about the guy who said people were jealous of him because he moved a distance away or out from everybody? Every time I run into his pics, something fishy always pops up. Some of those guys have 200 different names and the (Van) tweets on twitter, on the 28th of Dec were (Wilder) than ever.

 

[cluciano63]

You know, LE out in Portland did not hesitate in putting out pictures/posters of both Terri Horman, and Terri's friend Dede Spicher to the public, asking if they had seen the women on June 4th, or the vehicle, all without naming them as POI's or suspects. And Dede was not even known to have seen Kyron on that day. I don't see why photos of the people who were last known to have seen Phylicia, or any missing person, cannot be shown to the public, as well as their vehicles. How else can witnesses come forward?

 

[investigate1]

I've thought the same. Yet, I stop and say, maybe it's some kind of strategy. I'm not understanding the logical strategy of the msm reactions or response. Unless, there is a mix up in vehicles and pings are too confusing and not completely direct and pinged with a purpose that counts. (Maybe they don't want to put anything out that might not be tight enough). Maybe things are being held close to the vest for a reason. Wish I was that advanced to understand the logic in it all.

You know, LE out in Portland did not hesitate in putting out pictures/posters of both Terri Horman, and Terri's friend Dede Spicher to the public, asking if they had seen the women on June 4th, or the vehicle, all without naming them as POI's or suspects. And Dede was not even known to have seen Kyron on that day. I don't see why photos of the people who were last known to have seen Phylicia, or any missing person, cannot be shown to the public, as well as their vehicles. How else can witnesses come forward?

 

[Cubby]

You know, LE out in Portland did not hesitate in putting out pictures/posters of both Terri Horman, and Terri's friend Dede Spicher to the public, asking if they had seen the women on June 4th, or the vehicle, all without naming them as POI's or suspects. And Dede was not even known to have seen Kyron on that day. I don't see why photos of the people who were last known to have seen Phylicia, or any missing person, cannot be shown to the public, as well as their vehicles. How else can witnesses come forward?

I wonder about this too. Part of me believes LE has a circumstantial case, having all the pieces, the who done it but not enough for a conviction body or not. Part of me thinks the reason they have not released more info, as you suggested cluciano63, is because some of the testimony they need is to substantiate what they ALREADY have.

It's been mentioned to bring in this group of POI's on drug charges. However, I'm afraid unless there are priors, bringing someone in on small amounts of illegal drugs would likely not be of assistance. Unless the amount was large enough to charge someone with intent to distribute. That may be an avenue to pursue or an avenue LE is pursuing. This group is no doubt on their toes. They know they are being watched. Yet, somehow they need a source to obtain and continue to obtain any illegal substances. If LE can nail someone with a large enough quantity to charge someone with intent to distribute, perhaps then someone will start talking about what they know regarding PB's disappearance.

JMO

 

[georgiajean]

Updated post on the Opal Fusion Mag. Good summary of what's current in the case, and interesting discussion about the words "circumstantial" and "substantial" which I know a few of us were debating up-thread.
So posting the link for you.
http://opalfusionmag.com/2011/04/02/phylicia-barnes-case-update-progress/
"Phylicia Barnes case update: Is that progress we are seeing?

 

[cluciano63]

I don't think LE has anything to go on except suspicion at this time. Maybe they will get lucky with pings, if they are able to get the records of everyone who had access to P, and do some serious breaking down as to where the phone of every person was the afternoon and evening of the 28th. If one or more happened to be out in some isolated area, that might be a starting point, at least.

 

[investigate1]

I think that LE in every State should get together and train people/officers for STING operations.

When I was young and in the Military, I lived in the Barracks. There were people using drugs. I think weed. It was a weed bust. The Military police planted an undercover, beautiful female, from another State. She was assigned to point out all who were involved in the illegal activity. That was her duty/mission. Once her mission was accomplished, the Military Base quickly removed her and sent her else where.

 

[fleur.de.lis]

I truly hope that LE, in addition to gathering cell phone pings, has subpoenaed Twitter to retrieve the log data associated with the tweets of each POI on that day. I strongly suspect that some of the POI purposefully misrepresented their whereabouts on that day in their tweets. Perhaps with the naive belief that Twitter would be a believable alibi. ("I was in X location all day - see I even tweeted about it.")

If I were LE, I would want to know - were the tweets posted via computer or cell phone? If by computer, what was the IP address? If by cell phone, does Twitter have the location data? Most Andriod/iphone/Blackberry apps for Twitter can embed your location coordinates in your tweets. Did a POI post to twitter using his cell phone even though he was supposedly at home with his computer? If the data shows the tweets were sent by phone, this might also link the POI to any "burner" phones they may have used that day.

 

[RavenTrue]

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I truly hope that LE, in addition to gathering cell phone pings, has subpoenaed Twitter to retrieve the log data associated with the tweets of each POI on that day. I strongly suspect that some of the POI purposefully misrepresented their whereabouts on that day in their tweets. Perhaps with the naive belief that Twitter would be a believable alibi. ("I was in X location all day - see I even tweeted about it.")

If I were LE, I would want to know - were the tweets posted via computer or cell phone? If by computer, what was the IP address? If by cell phone, does Twitter have the location data? Most Andriod/iphone/Blackberry apps for Twitter can embed your location coordinates in your tweets. Did a POI post to twitter using his cell phone even though he was supposedly at home with his computer? If the data shows the tweets were sent by phone, this might also link the POI to any "burner" phones they may have used that day.

I have to believe that LE has much more evidence than they are portraying to the public. As fleur pointed out--any dope dealer uses burner phones. Just 1 call from such a phone that was never used again after day PB disappeared, and correlate ping locations from that phone with MJ or any of the main persons involved could be huge. Am hoping that LE is making a case for ALL persons involved and already have their suspect and just haven't named him yet. raying:

 

[investigate1]

There was a man involved with the case who spoke on TV a while back. He said firmly that they have questioned the person responsible for PB's disappearance and he said something about evidence. Even though he said (person), he also said responsible for the disappearance. Once PB was taken away, I'm certain others will be held responsible for any other activity that may have taken place after the fact. imo. I believe all LE needs is that evidence. We will continue to look high and low without leaving any stone unturned.

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I have to believe that LE has much more evidence than they are portraying to the public. As fleur pointed out--any dope dealer uses burner phones. Just 1 call from such a phone that was never used again after day PB disappeared, and correlate ping locations from that phone with MJ or any of the main persons involved could be huge. Am hoping that LE is making a case for ALL persons involved and already have their suspect and just haven't named him yet. raying:

 

[BACH50]

I don't think LE has anything to go on except suspicion at this time. Maybe they will get lucky with pings, if they are able to get the records of everyone who had access to P, and do some serious breaking down as to where the phone of every person was the afternoon and evening of the 28th. If one or more happened to be out in some isolated area, that might be a starting point, at least.

I think LE has lots to go on like the cop said in the last interview. They have circumstanial, but need substantial. They know more than what we know because they have seen and met with all of the POI's. They have been to the scene, they have collected evidence that we are not even aware about, let alone privy to.

So yes I think LE is so ready to press ahead with charges, they just can't because of the way the laws in Bmore are written. Even we here on this blog are beyond the suspicion stage and really have a good insight on what happen, we just don't have the proof or the reason. Don't sleep on the FBI, and the Bmore LE they really do have a CLUE as to what, they just need evidence as to how????

 

[BACH50]

I wonder about this too. Part of me believes LE has a circumstantial case, having all the pieces, the who done it but not enough for a conviction body or not. Part of me thinks the reason they have not released more info, as you suggested cluciano63, is because some of the testimony they need is to substantiate what they ALREADY have.

It's been mentioned to bring in this group of POI's on drug charges. However, I'm afraid unless there are priors, bringing someone in on small amounts of illegal drugs would likely not be of assistance. Unless the amount was large enough to charge someone with intent to distribute. That may be an avenue to pursue or an avenue LE is pursuing. This group is no doubt on their toes. They know they are being watched. Yet, somehow they need a source to obtain and continue to obtain any illegal substances. If LE can nail someone with a large enough quantity to charge someone with intent to distribute, perhaps then someone will start talking about what they know regarding PB's disappearance.

JMO

LE even went as far as to pull the younger POI out of school and speak with him, and met with MJ more than once. Yet we see no pics or video nor the media even attempting to interview these POI's WHY????? The media usually jumps to the chance to point fingers and start trying to put the camera in anybody remotely close to the case, and yet they have failed to even show us MJ and his whereabouts when he is suppose to be the last person to see PB??? Why haven't we heard anything from MJ or seen the media at least trying to speak with him???? I just don't get it?????? WHY????

 

[Falconi]

LE needs to release the names of POI's.

If the 21 year old cousin of mj, who was also a roommate, is who I think it is, there's some very disturbing information on the net.

It's glaring and would explain why people may be afraid to talk to LE and help solve this crime/find PB.

LE, please help us help you to find PB. Please, release those names.

Thanks in advance!