Found Deceased MD - Rachel Morin, 37, left for walk on Ma & Pa Trail 6pm, car found at Williams St entrance, Bel Air, 5 Aug 2023

[Elley Mae]

Would be interesting to know from eyewitnesses if she was walking or jogging.

 

[cuffem]

This is another case keeping me off the greenway trail next to my home. I even have a concealed carry and still will not go alone. Followed these type of cases that members posted earlier. Sherry Arnold's case will always haunt me.

 

[CaptRenault]

Agree. She was attractive, and the relationship, new. Absolutely nothing to gain in eliminating her.

There are other motives for murder besides having something to gain.

 

[CaptRenault]

Many times they do know who the perpetrator is but don’t have enough evidence to charge them...

I think that may be true in this case.

 

[thefragile7393]

Ok I’m not one that works out, gym, jogging, etc I get a work out gardening, cutting grass and maintaining the house.

For the ones that do work out is it normal, common to go jogging/ running/ walking after a work out at the gym?

TIA

Can be. Some people will go do their cardio first and then to the gym and lift weights so it's not outside the realm of weirdness that she'd go to the gym and then a run. I mean that's too much for me (I'm doing good to even do 30 mins of exercise a day LOL) but someone hardcore into fitness may do it.

 

[Charlot123]

There are other motives for murder besides having something to gain.

When breaking up, yes, surely. But this was a new relationship; they have made it "official" a week ago. They are spending time together. There are many expectations from the future. Like her style or not, she obviously invested a lot in her looks and was attractive. It makes no sense to me.

 

[Knox]

When breaking up, yes, surely. But this was a new relationship; they have made it "official" a week ago. They are spending time together. There are many expectations from the future. Like her style or not, she obviously invested a lot in her looks and was attractive. It makes no sense to me.

I feel strongly this was a matter of being in the wrong place at wrong time, in other words - her killer wasn't someone close to her. It won't be surprising if a total stranger is eventually arrested. She attracted attention from someone who likely lived nearby and/or frequented the trails.

My only other thought is if she was on multiple dating sites and had a public Facebook page. Maybe the announcement of the new relationship, pizzed someone off. Maybe there were expectations that went unfulfilled, a sense of being dumped. That person knew she routinely went to the trails. Has anyone found a profile for her?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

*3 weeks ago in NY Park: description of stranger attacks: it’s not about this case. Examples:

• “Where are you going? Let me talk to you,” said suspect Luc Tatchiem Noubissi before blocking the victim from walking past him about an hour before sunrise this past Thursday, authorities alleged in court papers

• Noubissi, 39, turned violent after a stranger refused his unwanted attention in the park at 4:45 a.m. Thursday, authorities said. Noubissi then put put his hands around the woman’s throat and grabbed at the woman’s breast and crotch before trying to yank off her dress as she screamed and fought him off, officials said.

• The suspect pulled her to the ground and yanked her hair before swiping the victim’s cellphone as she tried to dial 911, said Assistant District Attorney Emily Drake at his Friday night arraignment. The strap on the woman’s dress was torn loose during the scuffle with Noubissi, Drake added.

• The other suspect accused of violence at Riverside Park, bike-riding 21-year-old Lopez, was charged with pinching a woman’s breasts inside the park near W. 80th St. on Tuesday around 4:40 p.m. In that incident, Lopez also asked the woman to commit a sexual act, prosecutors said. That night, around 10 p.m., Lopez is accused of attacking another woman in Riverside Park, this time around W. 89th St.

• In that incident, authorities say, Lopez grabbed the woman’s wrist, shoulder, vagina and breast, pushed her to the ground, climbed on top of her, pulled her shorts down, and undid his own zipper. The woman screamed and managed to get away, and Lopez rode off on a bike, says a criminal complaint.

Accused Riverside Park predators jailed as Manhattan prosecutors detail attempted rape of stranger

A woman attacked by a violent would-be rapist fought off her assailant as he groped and choked her in Riverside Park in Manhattan, officials said Saturday after the suspect was arraigned and jailed…

www.nydailynews.com

 

[iluvmua]

I feel strongly this was a matter of being in the wrong place at wrong time, in other words - her killer wasn't someone close to her. It won't be surprising if a total stranger is eventually arrested. She attracted attention from someone who likely lived nearby and/or frequented the trails.

My only other thought is if she was on multiple dating sites and had a public Facebook page. Maybe the announcement of the new relationship, pizzed someone off. Maybe there were expectations that went unfulfilled, a sense of being dumped. That person knew she routinely went to the trails. Has anyone found a profile for her?

She had 2 facebook pages

 

[Knox]

She had 2 facebook pages

I haven't seen either, were both removed?

 

[MyJoey]

Log into Facebook
That’s the one but the newest was removed.

 

[CaptRenault]

An update from the NY Post published at 6:30 Saturday:

Murdered Maryland mom Rachel Morin was ‘devoted’ to her 5 kids: bosses

Woltz said Morin was “easygoing” and almost always in a good mood but she and her husband both noticed she seemed “distracted” the week before she was killed.

nypost.com

...The kids, who range in age from 8 to 18 and have three different fathers, have been split up and sent to live with their respective dads...

...Tobin – whose lengthy rap sheet includes second-degree assault, violating restraining orders and resisting arrest – on Monday denied he was involved in Morin’s death...

...Police told reporters to ignore an account given by a local man, Michael Gabriszeski, who gave a gory description of having discovered the body in a tunnel on the trail, saying he had not found the body nor seen it...

...Gabriszeski’s father John told The Post Saturday that his son was not lying – he was with a group of people who found the body although he was not the one to find it.

He said his son’s stepdaughter, who was an acquaintance of Rachel’s, and another person was with him looking for Morin and they were the ones who found her.

“I think the authorities don’t want too much information out there right now as they conduct the investigation and we understand that,” he said.

“My son is going to remain quiet and not say anything further...

 

[iluvmua]

In a new article in the NYP, we now have MG's father saying that his son is not lying and that his stepdaughter is an acquaintance of Rachel's and he was with a group of people when the body was found.

He also said that his son is going to remain quiet and not say anything further.

 

[Stunned]

In a new article in the NYP, we now have MG's father saying that his son is not lying and that his stepdaughter is an acquaintance of Rachel's and he was with a group of people when the body was found.

He also said that his son is going to remain quiet and not say anything further.

We really need different emojis!

 

[Dotta]

An update from the NY Post published at 6:30 Saturday:

Murdered Maryland mom Rachel Morin was ‘devoted’ to her 5 kids: bosses

Woltz said Morin was “easygoing” and almost always in a good mood but she and her husband both noticed she seemed “distracted” the week before she was killed.

nypost.com

Her "being distracted" during the week before murder is telling IMO.
So maybe the attack was not random after all.

JMO

 

[Knox]

Gabriszeski’s father John told The Post Saturday that his son was not lying – he was with a group of people who found the body although he was not the one to find it.

He said his son’s stepdaughter, who was an acquaintance of Rachel’s, and another person was with him looking for Morin and they were the ones who found her.

“I think the authorities don’t want too much information out there right now as they conduct the investigation and we understand that,” he said.

“My son is going to remain quiet and not say anything further.

Murdered Maryland mom Rachel Morin was ‘devoted’ to her 5 kids: bosses

Woltz said Morin was “easygoing” and almost always in a good mood but she and her husband both noticed she seemed “distracted” the week before she was killed.

nypost.com

Thank God he finally got a clue and zipped his lips!!

 

[Knox]

“She was very warm and above all she loved her children,” Margaret Woltz, 69, told The Post about the 37-year-old Maryland mother, found brutally murdered Aug. 6 on the Ma and Pa hiking trail in Bel Air.

“She raised them very well. She had a flexible work schedule that allowed her to make sure her kids were always taken care of. We were like grandparents to the kids and we trusted her implicitly.”

Morin, who owned her own cleaning business, worked for Woltz and her husband for eight years, keeping their home tidy, Woltz said.

The mom was “easygoing” and almost always in a good mood, said Woltz, who admitted she and her husband noticed Morin seemed “distracted” the week before she was killed.

Margaret Woltz said Morin’s top priority was her kids, who were exceptionally well-behaved.

Murdered Maryland mom Rachel Morin was ‘devoted’ to her 5 kids: bosses

Woltz said Morin was “easygoing” and almost always in a good mood but she and her husband both noticed she seemed “distracted” the week before she was killed.

nypost.com

 

[Inthedetails]

“She was very warm and above all she loved her children,” Margaret Woltz, 69, told The Post about the 37-year-old Maryland mother, found brutally murdered Aug. 6 on the Ma and Pa hiking trail in Bel Air.

“She raised them very well. She had a flexible work schedule that allowed her to make sure her kids were always taken care of. We were like grandparents to the kids and we trusted her implicitly.”

Morin, who owned her own cleaning business, worked for Woltz and her husband for eight years, keeping their home tidy, Woltz said.

The mom was “easygoing” and almost always in a good mood, said Woltz, who admitted she and her husband noticed Morin seemed “distracted” the week before she was killed.

Margaret Woltz said Morin’s top priority was her kids, who were exceptionally well-behaved.

Murdered Maryland mom Rachel Morin was ‘devoted’ to her 5 kids: bosses

Woltz said Morin was “easygoing” and almost always in a good mood but she and her husband both noticed she seemed “distracted” the week before she was killed.

nypost.com

Distracted in what way? That could mean anything from forgetting laundry in the dryer to not being able to hold a conversation.

jmo

 

[Knox]

Not sure if this link holds, but there was a Defendant's Petition to Modify Visitation filed on March 23, 2022 which was DENIED on 12/29/22. Not that it's related at all, just noting ...

Maryland Judiciary Case Search

 

[Snoopster]

“She was very warm and above all she loved her children,” Margaret Woltz, 69, told The Post about the 37-year-old Maryland mother, found brutally murdered Aug. 6 on the Ma and Pa hiking trail in Bel Air.

“She raised them very well. She had a flexible work schedule that allowed her to make sure her kids were always taken care of. We were like grandparents to the kids and we trusted her implicitly.”

Morin, who owned her own cleaning business, worked for Woltz and her husband for eight years, keeping their home tidy, Woltz said.

The mom was “easygoing” and almost always in a good mood, said Woltz, who admitted she and her husband noticed Morin seemed “distracted” the week before she was killed.

Margaret Woltz said Morin’s top priority was her kids, who were exceptionally well-behaved.

Murdered Maryland mom Rachel Morin was ‘devoted’ to her 5 kids: bosses

Woltz said Morin was “easygoing” and almost always in a good mood but she and her husband both noticed she seemed “distracted” the week before she was killed.

nypost.com

Regarding "distracted"...
If she was distracted in the previous week she wasn't so distracted that she didn't announce that she was in a new relationship.

Was someone offended that she was in a new relationship??