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Who benefits from this? Look there first. IMHO.
RIP Mr. Fuller.
 
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Montgomery County Police have released video of a suspect and are seeking information from the public.

The video appears to show a female under the age of 25 and probably younger. Legs are very thin, often seen in teens, and the gait looks female to me. Long hair like that is usually a female, although a wig could be involved.
 
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The video appears to show a female under the age of 25 and probably younger. Legs are very thin, often seen in teens, and the gait looks female to me. Long hair like that is usually a female, although a wig could be involved.
I can’t decide if I think the suspect might look just as they appear in the video, or if this was a well thought out disguise. For example, I see the same things you do - the hair and the thin legs. The pants appear to be a style a female would wear. The shirt stands out as distinctive. But if it’s a wig and female clothing on a man with a slight build, and that shirt was purchased for and discarded after the crime… 🤔
 
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MONTGOMERY COUNTY, Md. — A person has been arrested in connection to the killing of 87-year-old Robert "Bob" Fuller Jr. inside his senior living apartment two weeks ago, police said.

The arrest is connected to a person who shot at a state trooper during a traffic stop in Baltimore on Tuesday, Montgomery County Police said, but they did not yet explain further. They will share more at a press conference at 3 p.m. Wednesday. The person arrested has not yet been identified.

Investigators have been searching for suspects in Fuller's death for more than a week, and had released a photograph and surveillance video of an unidentified person they were looking for last week. Only the back of the person could be seen in the images. They had long hair down their back, wore a flannel shirt and black pants. Police said they could not narrow down the person's gender or race based on the images.

Early Tuesday morning, a state trooper pulled over a person driving what police believe to be a gray Infiniti with partial license plates, darkly tinted windows, front end damage and broken headlights. Just before 3:30 a.m., as the trooper walked toward the driver side door, it opened and several shots were fired from inside out toward the trooper. The trooper was injured and did not shoot back at the car, which sped off. He was brought to a nearby hospital to treat powdered burns from being close to the shots, but no bullets struck him.
 
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maryland.gov News release identifying the suspect and local news station article indicating he was an employee at the nursing home…..that was not on my bingo card!
 
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I’m curious to hear what the motive was. MOO
 
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I’m curious to hear what the motive was. MOO
This is an assisted living facility and not a nursing home. Residents have apartments of varying sizes, and usually eat meals in a central dining room. There are aides who work in these facilities who do things like helping residents dress, housekeeping, administration of medications, and other tasks of daily living. See the facility website: Senior Living in Potomac, MD | Cogir of Potomac

One problem that can happen is that there can be predatory employees who steal from or assault residents, and take advantage of infirmity and disabilities. It is possible that Fuller discovered an employee stealing from him, and that things escalated after that. Medications, jewelry and cash are often targets, although checks and credit cards can also be stolen.

Just my opinion/speculation, based on the experience of my own parents in assisted living facilities.
 
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This is an assisted living facility and not a nursing home. Residents have apartments of varying sizes, and usually eat meals in a central dining room. There are aides who work in these facilities who do things like helping residents dress, housekeeping, administration of medications, and other tasks of daily living.

One problem that can happen is that there can be predatory employees who steal from or assault residents, and take advantage of infirmity and disabilities. It is possible that Fuller discovered an employee stealing from him, and that things escalated after that.

Just my opinion/speculation, based on the experience of my own parents in assisted living facilities.
I agree. A little OT, but my husband was in one of these facilities before he passed. But fortunately, he had good people around him. MOO
 
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maryland.gov News release identifying the suspect and local news station article indicating he was an employee at the nursing home…..that was not on my bingo card!
snips from your article

According to charging documents, testing showed a bullet casing found at the apartment matched the gun used to fire at the trooper Tuesday.

But employees said James has worn a similar plaid jacket to the one seen in the video while at work, according to charging documents.

A sensor on the door wasn’t working the night of the killing. Police said James was the last person to set it off, on Jan. 9, before a battery was apparently removed.


That sensor was reset after the homicide.
 
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Very interesting article posted by @Kellygirl2013.. James worked as a medical technician, administering medications to residents. This position can be of interest to someone looking to steal narcotics. The suspect apparently had an assortment of wigs.

The article also mentioned James asking Fuller's roommate whether oxycodone had taken effect. Stealing narcotics could be the motive here, or perhaps drugs were used to disable an individual to facilitate theft. Some thieves take opioids belonging to patients and substitute other substances instead.
 
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Very interesting article posted by @Kellygirl2013.. James worked as a medical technician, administering medications to residents. This position can be of interest to someone looking to steal narcotics. The suspect apparently had an assortment of wigs.

The article also mentioned James asking Fuller's roommate whether oxycodone had taken effect. Stealing narcotics could be the motive here, or perhaps drugs were used to disable an individual to facilitate theft. Some thieves take opioids belonging to patients and substitute other substances instead.
What's weird though is that Fuller's roommate was there when the murder took place. He slept through it. Just seems like a huge risk for the perp. MOO

This article posted by @Kellygirl2013 appears to be consistently updated. Earlier it did not have any of the information about the wigs nor that the victim had established transitional housing facility in Maine for women who are veterans. MOO
 
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What's weird though is that Fuller's roommate was there when the murder took place. He slept through it. Just seems like a huge risk for the perp. MOO

This article posted by @Kellygirl2013 appears to be consistently updated. Earlier it did not have any of the information about the wigs nor that the victim had established transitional housing facility in Maine for women who are veterans. MOO
Maybe the roommate was given narcotics? Maybe they were both given narcotics? It wasn't clear to me whether James was asking if the oxycodone had taken effect after being given to the roommate or whether he was asking the roommate whether the oxycodone had taken effect on Fuller. If drugs are the motive, I think fear of risk can disappear from the desire for the substance.

I think there's theft of some kind involved. Either drugs meant for the elderly residents, or personal possessions like watches, cash and wedding rings. JMO
 
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This is an assisted living facility and not a nursing home. Residents have apartments of varying sizes, and usually eat meals in a central dining room. There are aides who work in these facilities who do things like helping residents dress, housekeeping, administration of medications, and other tasks of daily living. See the facility website: Senior Living in Potomac, MD | Cogir of Potomac

One problem that can happen is that there can be predatory employees who steal from or assault residents, and take advantage of infirmity and disabilities. It is possible that Fuller discovered an employee stealing from him, and that things escalated after that. Medications, jewelry and cash are often targets, although checks and credit cards can also be stolen.

Just my opinion/speculation, based on the experience of my own parents in assisted living facilities.
That was a poor choice of words on my part saying it was a nursing home and not an assisted living facility. My personal history skewed my wording as I currently have a relative with dementia who is in a memory care facility, so I tend to just say nursing home for all the diff. types of senior living facilities.
The apparent lack of vetting of the suspect’s background is chilling (especially for those with family members living in such places)!
 
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What's weird though is that Fuller's roommate was there when the murder took place. He slept through it. Just seems like a huge risk for the perp. MOO

This article posted by @Kellygirl2013 appears to be consistently updated. Earlier it did not have any of the information about the wigs nor that the victim had established transitional housing facility in Maine for women who are veterans. MOO
The article has been updated. I've noticed some media outlets do this... You can open up an article the next day using the same link, and hardly recognize it.
 
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That was a poor choice of words on my part saying it was a nursing home and not an assisted living facility. My personal history skewed my wording as I currently have a relative with dementia who is in a memory care facility, so I tend to just say nursing home for all the diff. types of senior living facilities.
The apparent lack of vetting of the suspect’s background is chilling (especially for those with family members living in such places)!
I think a lot of nursing homes and assisted living facilities have severe staffing problems that cause them to overlook problem employees or proper vetting. They usually pay poorly and don't prioritize employees with skills.

My father was in a memory care unit, but it was actually part of an assisted living. An employee took his wedding band. It wasn't worth much - a 10 karat thin band - but it was disturbing. My mother was in another assisted living at a later date, and a nurse stole from residents, including my mother. The problems that followed forced my mother to leave her facility.

If you look at Cogir's website, it shows an attractive facility, with activities and "fine dining." But the staff is the most important thing, and in this situation it resulted in the unimaginable.
 

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