• #401
IMO!!!!

This seems to be arrogance/lack of accountability
and the result of "stress free" upbringing.
Permissive parenting.

King Charles seemed to have been raised differently
- with rules, clear boundaries, and discipline.
Taught good manners/etiquette
and how to show respect to others.

It seems evident IMO.
The character is formed during childhood.

There is a saying in my country:

"If you weren't taught values at home,
Strangers will teach you
- in a hard way."

JMO
Of course the upbringing of Charles, and Anne, was different from that of Andrew (and Edward) as the age gap is 12, and 10, years between the older two and Andrew. The opinion of how to bring up children shifted a lot from the 1950s to the 1970s, when Andrew was a teenager. I would think you would find the same kind of differences between siblings born with an age gap of ten years or more, especially if the older ones was born shortly after WW2. As for the children of Queen Elizabeth, I would guess that much of their upbringing was done by nannies, and others, and not so much a 'hands-on' by their parents. I would guess that those who did the 'day-to-day parenting' of the two set of children (C&A vs. A&E) belonged to different generations, and had different ideas how children was to be treated.
As for Edward, I think that Charles might have had more of an influence on him, as Charles was 16 when Edward were born, and they seem to have more in common.
 
  • #402
Albanese's letter reads: "Dear Prime Minister Starmer, in light of recent events concerning Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, I am writing to confirm that my government would agree to any proposal to remove him from the line of royal succession.
"I agree with His Majesty that the law must now take its full course and there must be a full, fair and proper investigation.
"These are grave allegations and Australians take them seriously."
Australia is still recovering from a messy Referendum. It for unsuccessful for the Government, and divisive within the community. There is little political appetite for another Referendum, which would be needed to change our head of state. (Currently the King)

The allegations are really sordid. The idea that others were aware of Andrew's conduct and protected him from the consequences, is what we would all cynically suspect, in our darkest mood, but it's shattering to learn just how widespread this seems.
 
  • #403
As Prime Minister Anthony Albanese endorses moves to strip Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor of his succession rights Aussies say they are repulsed by the latest sordid revelations but still support the monarchy.

Australia was the first nation to write to UK Prime Minister Keir Starmerto back the push to remove the disgraced former royal from the line of succession to the British and Australian crowns.

Alan, 71, described the Duke of York as a "worm". His wife Ruth said he was a disgrace and the late Queen would be devastated by the revelations.
But both stopped short of endorsing a republic.

"We will end up with the politicians so I don't think we will be better off," Alan said.

In a statement on Tuesday evening, Thames Valley Police confirmed searches had concluded at the ex-prince’s former residence of Royal Lodgein Berkshire.


They added their investigation is “ongoing” but said any updates are “unlikely to be for some time”.

It comes after the government backed the Lib Dems’ attempt to force the public release of files related to Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s appointment as a trade envoy.

During the debate, trade minister Sir Chris Bryant slammed the ex-prince as “arrogant and entitled”.
 
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Horse is greatly relieved! 😎
 
  • #406
On 21 July 2011, the day it was announced that the former prince would step down from the role, Epstein wrote, "I assume he knows that this is Charles' doing".

The email was in response to a message from an associate, who said: "Lots of TV coverage on PA and always big feature on you. Insane."
 
  • #407
Or he thought he had the authority to divulge secrets as trade envoy. I think that is actually a reasonable defense for the charges as I understand them. Although IANAL. Would love @Nikynoo to comment on this thread.
Let me read up on this. Back in the day it was no secret that A and other persons in privileged positions took advantage of their roles.

Sounds awful, I know. But I’m just not that interested in the Epstein/ Windsor/ Mandelson business.
 
  • #408
After 22 years in the Royal Navy, including combat operations as a helicopter pilot during the 1982 Falklands War, Andrew was named Britain’s special representative for international trade and investment in 2001. His frequent taxpayer-funded travel saw him dubbed “Air Miles Andy” by the press.

Links to questionable characters​

Once a subject of media fascination for his love life, the man the tabloids dubbed “Randy Andy” became a regular source of headlines because of his money woes and links to questionable characters, including Epstein, the American financier and convicted sex offender.

The then-prince’s business associations were the subject of tabloid stories stretching back to at least 2007, when he sold his house near Windsor Castle for 15 million pounds, 3 million pounds more than the original asking price, to Timur Kulibayev, son-in-law of then-Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev, raising concerns that the deal was an attempt to buy influence in Britain.

A representative of Kulibayev said the purchase “was a commercial, arm’s length transaction,” and the price rose “as part of a competitive bidding process.

Shamed ex-Prince Andrew is effectively confined to his quarters at Sandringham after King Charles barred him from horse riding – a move insiders have told RadarOnline.com amounts to "house arrest" as the disgraced royal faces a police probe linked to Jeffrey Epstein.

Andrew Windsor, 66, relocated to Wood Farm on the Sandringham Estate three weeks ago, and has now been released "under investigation" after his arrest on his 66th birthday by Thames Valley Police on suspicion of misconduct in public office.
 
  • #409
“Since his arrest last week, he has been ordered not to go horse riding. It’s considered a bad look. They don’t think he should be seen grinning and smiling on his horse like he was in Windsor. But it was one of the few things he actually enjoyed doing so what on earth is he going to do with his time

Piers Morgan invited a panel of guests, including Andrew Mountbatten-Windor's former flame Lady Victoria Hervey, onto his latest TalkTV show to discuss how the former Duke of York and ex Labour politician Peter Mandelson had been arrested. During the broadcast, Piers referred to the former prince by his first name and the former European Commissioner for Trade by his surname.

Victoria interjected as Piers was speaking to say: "Just call him Prince Andrew because the Mountbatten thing is way too long." Piers looked baffled and clarified: "Well, he's not Prince Andrew anymore, so let's call him Mountbatten-Windsor

The media have been told to keep away from Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor's new home on the grounds of the Sandringham Estate. The warning comes as a new notice has been issued outside Marsh Farm.

It reads: "This is private property and no comment will be made to journalists. Photographers are also not permitted onto these private grounds of the Sandringham Estate. Please respect this decision."

The sign adds that failure to comply will be reported to IPSO - the Independent Press Standards Organisation.The Daily Express takes a look at pictures of the latest developments at Marsh Farm...
 
  • #410
These are very serious allegations, and because they will be, no doubt, the subject of court action, I’m limited in what I can say," Albanese said on Friday.

But Albanese, who expressed support for Australia becoming a republic whilst he was in opposition, has watered down the potential of Australia holding a republic referendum.

"I’m a republican but we had a referendum during the last term," he said. "Referendums are hard to pass in Australia."

"I have respect for King Charles, I must say, and for Queen Camilla. I have had a good relationship with him. He very much loves Australia. And his visit here, I must say, was a very positive one."

"But that doesn’t change the fact I think there should [eventually] be an Australian head of state."

US President Donald Trump said the former prince's arrest was a sad day for the royal family.

"I think it's a shame. I think it's very sad. I think it's so bad for the royal family," he said.

"It's a very sad thing to see it and to see what's going on with [King Charles'] brother, who's obviously coming to our country very soon, and he's a fantastic man, the king."
 
  • #411
Writer and broadcaster Esther Krakue claims former prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson used their Royal “status” to make as much money as possible.

 
  • #412
Writer and broadcaster Esther Krakue claims former prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson used their Royal “status” to make as much money as possible.


Well she didn’t spend her money on Botox.
 
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That $13,000 a day spa should fix her right up

Haha!😂 For $5000 more and a few coupons, she may be able to get something going for Botox.
 
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“Since his arrest last week, he has been ordered not to go horse riding. It’s considered a bad look. They don’t think he should be seen grinning and smiling on his horse like he was in Windsor. But it was one of the few things he actually enjoyed doing so what on earth is he going to do with his time
He's lucky enough to be able to walk about his new estate, never mind ride about! IMO!
 
  • #417
Let me read up on this. Back in the day it was no secret that A and other persons in privileged positions took advantage of their roles.

Sounds awful, I know. But I’m just not that interested in the Epstein/ Windsor/ Mandelson business.
Understandable. Since I am not keen on UK laws I am looking for your expertise on what could happen here.
 
  • #418
Understandable. Since I am not keen on UK laws I am looking for your expertise on what could happen here.

I never thought that we would see the day of all of this information being released. Naming people and the fallout from it. The contents of paraphernalia, photos of JE with the young victims and maybe even more to come.

His money allowed him to be protected. He paid these private investigators to hide these lockers! It’s so hard to fathom how people would look the other way for this creep. It’s quite different than hiding affairs, murder, embezzlement; this is kids being abused. The others are still bad, but gosh it’s so difficult to think about people covering the abuse of young victims.

 
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I never thought that we would see the day of all of this information being released. Naming people and the fallout from it. The contents of paraphernalia, photos of JE with the young victims and maybe even more to come.

His money allowed him to be protected. He paid these private investigators to hide these lockers! It’s so hard to fathom how people would look the other way for this creep. It’s quite different than hiding affairs, murder, embezzlement; this is kids being abused.

Sadly there are many that will never feel the fallout! Victims will never get the full justice they deserve.
 

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