ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 2

[KinderedSpirits]

--i don't see that she has inconsistancies in when she last saw ayla.

--she went into rehab for 10 days in oct. DHHS placed ayla w/ JD on Oct.17th. ( it's media that has said rehab was Nov.)

--she says she last saw ayla "about a month ago"--sounds like that was when they took her to the bone specialist @ maine orthopedics,( seperate from him taking her to the ER )-- ayla broke her arm "about 3 weeks ago" from the date she went missing on Dec.17, so, late November

--as for seeing the bedroom ayla sleeps in, JD began showing an interest in ayla in June ( coming home w/ bruises etc. ) she could have seen the bedroom in that June-Oct. timeframe when he had her then

--she has said that she hasn't spoken to JD since ayla went missing Dec.17, not that she hadn't spoken to him at all since he's had ayla from Oct.17th until then

I personally don't see suspicious inconsistencies with her timeline, either. I definitely feel that TR was initially in a state of shock/ disbelief, but the reality that she may never see her daughter again is slowly starting to seep in. I think the emotional rollercoaster associated with such a tragic event, not to mention the guilt she must be consumed with for having tyo leave little Ayla to go to rehab, may be taking a toll on her. IMO- she may even blame herself for this scenario (for example, thinking to herself " why did I let my addiction get so out of hand...etc," so as of now, I can't blame her if she tends to be wishy washy.

I know, as the mother of a 3 year-old daughter, if something heaven forbid happened to my baby girl while I was teaching my classes at the university, I could NEVER forgive myself for leaving her (my aunt watches her at my house twice a week) to go to work. May sound crazy, but that would be my reality. Therefore, I cannot begin to imagine how TR must feel. She may not have made smart decisions in the past, but at least she was seeking help!

Again, the point I'm trying to make is... we should not be so quick to judge her, especially because Ayla went missing on HIS watch! Not sure what happened, but all I know is that I am heartbroken for all the missing little angels....praying for each and every one of these beautiful babies...:heartbeat:

 

[matou]

Thanks for the welcome, and the different perspective. So, if I understand correctly, according to Trista, Justin broke off all contact between Ayla and her mother about a month ago? And that he refused to let Trista have unsupervised visitation since October, is that correct? Do we know why any of that happened?

The only reason that I quoted that Trista had been in the house was to show that, yes, she had been in the house and knew where Ayla slept. For sleuthing purposes, I think it's important to establish who did and didn't know the layout of the home.

Thanks again for the comments!

I hear what you're saying. Both parents would have motive to take Ayla.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I remember this in the news, they were even driving from other states to leave kids!

Answer to#2
" A 17-year-old boy left at an Omaha hospital is the 24th child to be abandoned under the state's much-criticized safe-haven law, which lawmakers hope to change next month."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/30/national/main4559031.shtml

Thanks, Yoda! It is interesting that the age limit differs between states!

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Why would the Dad need to abandon a child that has a mother and grandparents who love her?

I'm puzzled how that would change anything in this case. This child was supposedly in the home when it happened.

I guess what I'm saying is that lots of parents who harm or neglect a child are the last people who would give up custody. On the contrary ~ they think they have a right to do anything they want to their offspring because they have custody.

*thinking about the guy who just duct-taped his daughter and put it on Facebook, for instance. Would a law for older kids to be dropped off at a hospital help that child? Not really, it seems to me. Her father was going to do whatever he wanted to do, and didn't see anything wrong with it.

All good points, ThoughtFox!
Like I said, I was just trying to "Think Oustside the Box" while we waited for more news.
Do we know if paternal grandma was prepared for taking care of Ayla?
Might she have worried about the injuries of her grandchild?
Maybe this was something she thought about doing to protect the child?
Again...just a thought...not even an opinion.

 

[krimekat]

I'm actually a little surprised they are able to forensically search the place without a warrant. I'm not sure what that tells me about the father.

just my opinion but to me is sounds like the person who owns the home is okay with LE searching & no warrant (which would have to be detailed of what they are searching for) is necessary at this juncture . . .

but who knows in this case - :waitasec:

 

[krimekat]

Nebraska changed the law to infants up to 30 days old after that. Interesting article regarding this father. His girlfriend is expecting twins now.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529597,00.html

This is just wrong on so many levels (IMHO); not to get off topic

Come home Ayla!

 

[dillysmom11]

Taking a child away from confirmed maternal family members and giving them to an "alleged" father is ridiculous.
EVEN if both the mother and the alleged father claim he is the father. You don't go on their testimony alone.

Unless you have family members who work within CPS... according to TR, JD does.

 

[lauriej]

http://www.watervillepolice.org/
--Waterville PD Press Release--Dec.23/2011--

Waterville Police Chief Joseph Massey would like to announce that there will not be a press conference scheduled for today, December 23rd. The Waterville Police Department will issue informational releases regarding the search for Ayla Reynolds as appropriate and necessary today and through the weekend. In the event that future press conferences are scheduled, the Police Department will make the date, time and location available.

This morning's snowfall has hampered our ability to conduct large-scale earch operations. Today, teams of Wardens from the Maine Warden Service will conduct searches targeted by detectives as necessary.

Detectives from the Waterville Police Department and Maine State Police, as well as Special Agents from the FBI will continue their investigation into the circumstances surrounding Ayla's disappearance, to include the painstaking review of an unprecedented amount of information which has been gathered to date. During the weekend, investigators will continue to work on this case. Timely follow-up of any leads and any developments in the ongoing case will occur. We continue to encourage members of the public to contact our department with any information which may lead detectives to Ayla's location.

 

[Indy Anna]

Unless you have family members who work within CPS... according to TR, JD does.

I remembered her saying that, too. Trista claims she doesn't really know Justin (a one-night stand?). So, if Justin isn't legally recognized as the father of Ayla, and a paternity test reveals he isn't even Ayla's biological father, then CPS basically gave Ayla to a stranger.

I wonder if what Trista means by an "agreement" between her and Justin regarding custody of Ayla, is that Justin promised to give Ayla back to Trista after she completed rehab (which never happened). So, Trista agreed.

 

[hambirg]

just my opinion but to me is sounds like the person who owns the home is okay with LE searching & no warrant (which would have to be detailed of what they are searching for) is necessary at this juncture . . .

but who knows in this case - :waitasec:

Do we know for sure that LE hasn't gotten a warrant? I'm not sure how that works. . .would we necessarily know? Would the media be able to easily find that out?

I'm just throwing that out there, because I really don't know.

 

[askfornina]

Do we know for sure that LE hasn't gotten a warrant? I'm not sure how that works. . .would we necessarily know? Would the media be able to easily find that out?

I'm just throwing that out there, because I really don't know.

i haven't gotten around to transcribing the PC from yesterday where this was said, but here's a link:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1390634&srvc=home&position=active

Investigators do not have a warrant and are searching the home with the consent of the family, Massey said.

 

[elfie]

Nebraska changed the law to infants up to 30 days old after that. Interesting article regarding this father. His girlfriend is expecting twins now.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529597,00.html

I think all states should have safe have laws for children up to their 18th birthday. I was sad to see Nebraska change their law. Perhaps there wouldn't be as many cases to follow here.

 

[hambirg]

i haven't gotten around to transcribing the PC from yesterday where this was said, but here's a link:

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1390634&srvc=home&position=active

Thanks! I missed that and was just making sure it wasn't an assumption.

Hmmmm. . .so no warrant yet. :waitasec:

 

[not_my_kids]

All states have that law, enabling anyone to safely get rid of a child at any time. It requires calling CPS on yourself, and reporting to them that you cannot safely parent your child anymore. Problem solved. It's not abandonment if you do it that way. And almost no one does it, so a different law would not help at all. IMO.

Abusers tell themselves that next time will be different, they won't do it again, and they really believe it at the time. Or they don't think that they are doing anything wrong by beating their kids, so they don't see any need to give them up. or they like hurting someone and will never give that up willingly.

 

[Indy Anna]

I'm curious as to whether JP or any of his family have a pilot's license, living so close to an airport.

 

[not_my_kids]

yes, they had known each other for quite some time. They were never really together, but had the friends with benefits situation going on. Trista made the comment in one of the interviews that she didn't really know Justin, but I'm thinking it was one of those, I don't know who you are anymore, type of comments. If she truly believes that Justin did something with Ayla, then she probably does feel that she never really did know him, if she didn't see him as being capable of that.

 

[not_my_kids]

Yes. But if you exceed that, then your option is CPS, who had already been involved with Ayla, her mother, her aunt, her grandmother, and her father. Anyone at any point could have said, "No thanks, I don't want to raise a child right now", and that would have been the end of it. Ayla would have gone to foster care, and that person never would have had to see her again.

 

[not_my_kids]

O/T: Why isn't my quote button working? It shows the quote when I am responding to it, but when I post, the quoted post disappears. Help, LOL.

 

[krimekat]

Do we know for sure that LE hasn't gotten a warrant? I'm not sure how that works. . .would we necessarily know? Would the media be able to easily find that out?

I'm just throwing that out there, because I really don't know.

a search warrant would typically be public record & the media could get to it . . . again typically (thought I had posted this, but ?)

 

[lauriej]

O/T: Why isn't my quote button working? It shows the quote when I am responding to it, but when I post, the quoted post disappears. Help, LOL.

--that's weird----for me, my "thanks" button isn't working!