ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 4

[matou]

I think that no matter what happened to Ayla, she was the target. This was in no way some random baby thief. Either harm befell her and is being covered up, or she was taken or hidden away in some kind of custodial misadventure. JMO of course but I think the chances of some stranger having taken Ayla = zero.

I agree. This was not random. JMO

 

[Gingy]

With both babies sleeping in the same room, how do we KNOW that the abductor was after Ayla and not THE OTHER girl baby?

Oddly enough, I was thinking the same thing this evening. What made whomever took Ayla pick her? All things being equal, it would seem odd to me to pick the toddler with a broken arm. So, what was the deciding factor? Is Ayla's bed closer to the door within the room? Did she seem to be sleeping more soundly?

I am still hoping that Ayla is safe somewhere and praying that she is brought back to her family.

 

[Sparklin]

Oh dear, what is cbm? I got the BBM and sbm but...

sorry - cropped by me

 

[Helenstreet]

Regarding Trista's silence the last few days, I read a disscussion about it on another forum, the Hinky Meter. Moderators- if this is inappropriate, please remove. However, some posters stated that Trista has been unavailable due to her infant son being sick. That seems like a very reasonable explanation-nothing cloak and dagger in my opinion.

 

[ynotdivein]

We trust that in this case, as in all missing-person cases at WS, our sleuthers will work hard while assuming the best possible about the victim/family members of the missing.

Please remember that what you type here will endure, and that little Ayla herself, or her siblings or young cousins, may one day find and read through these threads. Word your posts accordingly.

Where this post falls is random, and :tyou:

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

I couldn't find my post to you saying you might want to ask the mods. I'm starting to think I did a no no. :innocent: But you are right, if you stopped posting all the sudden we would have all deduced you got in trouble. And probably started a thread on it

Ha Ha! This made me laugh! Thank you, Yoda. I will catch up with you all as often as possible in the eve, if possible. For now I just want to say that I hope and pray by the time I get back that Ayla will be found safely.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

I think that no matter what happened to Ayla, she was the target. This was in no way some random baby thief. Either harm befell her and is being covered up, or she was taken or hidden away in some kind of custodial misadventure. JMO of course but I think the chances of some stranger having taken Ayla = zero.

I agree too. Prayers she will be located safely and brought home!

 

[cluciano63]

I read one vague comment by a poster, not the owner of the site, on "Hinky Meter" that indicates TR's other child is ill and that is why she is not "around" right now. But nothing to show that this is true or factual. I know that the site is approved here as far as posts from the owner go, but anything posted by the public on her blog would have to be considered rumor as far as I know and JMO and all that.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

There's been so much speculation about someone taking Ayla out of altruistic motivations, presumably thinking that they could protect her and/or give her a better life than her parents... and that this person, who would have to be close enough to the family to know intimate details of their life yet far enough removed that they apparently escape investigation following the abduction, broke into the home and took Ayla, committing multiple felonies in the process, yet leaving a second child who presumably shares a similar home life... I'm sorry, I don't see this. Has there ever been a documented case where someone acquainted with a family abducted a child because they felt they would be a better parent than the real parent? I have never heard of such a thing.

While there have been cases of children abducted because someone wants a child, all the cases I recall have involved newborns.

When there is a custodial kidnapping, the non-custodial parent typically goes missing as well.

I'm afraid I only see two likely scenarios... a stranger abduction for sexual/violent motives (unlikey due to the young age of Ayla, small home, many adults present) or she was hurt in the home by a family member. Unfortunately, I think the latter is more likely. I think it is tremendously difficult for a strong paternal bond to occur when there wasn't a bond with the mother, when there was no caregiving during infancy, when there was limited contact with the child. Couple a weak paternal bond with young paternal age, even without drinking or substance abuse, and there could easily have been a moment of rage and a horrible accident.

I hope she is found.

 

[Helenstreet]

I read one vague comment by a poster, not the owner of the site, on "Hinky Meter" that indicates TR's other child is ill and that is why she is not "around" right now. But nothing to show that this is true or factual. I know that the site is approved here as far as posts from the owner go, but anything posted by the public on her blog would have to be considered rumor as far as I know and JMO and all that.

Thanks. After my post, I did a google search, and similar iinformation came up in the Associated Press and in a local online paper.

 

[matou]

There's been so much speculation about someone taking Ayla out of altruistic motivations, presumably thinking that they could protect her and/or give her a better life than her parents... and that this person, who would have to be close enough to the family to know intimate details of their life yet far enough removed that they apparently escape investigation following the abduction, broke into the home and took Ayla, committing multiple felonies in the process, yet leaving a second child who presumably shares a similar home life... I'm sorry, I don't see this. Has there ever been a documented case where someone acquainted with a family abducted a child because they felt they would be a better parent than the real parent? I have never heard of such a thing.

While there have been cases of children abducted because someone wants a child, all the cases I recall have involved newborns.

When there is a custodial kidnapping, the non-custodial parent typically goes missing as well.

I'm afraid I only see two likely scenarios... a stranger abduction for sexual/violent motives (unlikey due to the young age of Ayla, small home, many adults present) or she was hurt in the home by a family member. Unfortunately, I think the latter is more likely. I think it is tremendously difficult for a strong paternal bond to occur when there wasn't a bond with the mother, when there was no caregiving during infancy, when there was limited contact with the child. Couple a weak paternal bond with young paternal age, even without drinking or substance abuse, and there could easily have been a moment of rage and a horrible accident.

I hope she is found.

I found a reference to the mother stepsister being worried about this:

“Our biggest fear is that he lost his temper and something happened. We’re trying not to think about that, but in the back of our minds it’s our biggest fear,” Raynor said from Portland, where Ayla’s mother, Trista Reynolds, lives.

There were many sources of this original statement but most are gone now. I found it here, from Dec 19th: http://www.salon.com/2011/12/19/missing_maine_girls_relatives_feared_for_her_2/

 

[Sparklin]

Where are you my darling Ayla? I am hoping you are safe and sound and warm, soon to be returned to your loved ones ~ sending virtual hugs and tons of prayers!

 

[Kimster]

Marc Klaas plans to discuss Ayla on the radio show tonight. It is going to start in about 45 minutes!

Click the link on my signature line to take you to the show!

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Prayers this sweet child will be located safely. The more the days go by the more difficult it has to be for her family

 

[menmo]

Respectfully snipped by me

I don't understand why a reporter would not ask Justin about the alleged text, ask him if he told TR he was worried about Ayla being taken. It is a "yes" or "no" question. And if he was, why? Why would he tell TR that, when they were having such a contentious time of it, unless he was truly worried? The last thing you would think he would have told her was that he feared for her safety while with him, if he wanted to keep her. And if he denies texting this, can it be proven? Did TR invent this whole story about the text from Justin? Why isn't anyone asking him?

I would believe LE either way if they'd say it's true or not, but most of all I'd like to see it with my own eyes. Part of me believes he said it to her to get her all worked up and the other part of me believes it didn't happen the way we're led to believe.

Ayla was already cleared by hospital personnel to have suffered an accident and not due to any abuse.

I would think if he had anything to hide the last thing he would have done would be to call TR and tell her to meet him at the hospital. Don't you think?

Nobody said it was a stranger abduction. Nobody knows for sure.

For one, my children NEVER played outdoors as toddlers on their own. Perhaps their home does not have swing sets and remember, JD did not have her full time. Maybe they do not know their neighbors either. This does not raise any red flags for me. At the same time, anyone could have spotted her from the store and followed him home. There have been more bizarre cases as such. Goodness, it could be someone he met on Craigslist that came to the house to buy something...we could go on and on with the possibilities.

I'm not saying she did, but if anyone has a motive it could be TR. Why not? What if when she went to court to file the paperwork that she learned from the filing person that she would have to have sobriety for a lot longer before she would be considered to remove Ayla from the home of her dad, and her living arrangements were not ideal for two small children? For a mom missing and wanting their child bad...that would not be "out of the norm." Personally, I hope and pray that is what happened. If it happened that way, maybe mom felt that he would phone her hollering and telling her to bring baby back? Her intentions were to respond with "see you in court." However..not thinking clearly through that he would call and report her abducted and once the PD became involved...maybe the fear transpired to admit to taking her and it has now snowballed? I'm not saying this is what happened...I'm saying it's possible and I hope this is what has happened.

Well, she does know the layout as she was in the home before. I would venture to guess if it were around 3 am it can be assumed that most all would be sleeping in the home. You yourself said the thought crossed your mind a thousand times...so maybe she was more brazen then you? Anything is possible. Again, the alternative is much scarier.

They have not said. I'm going to take a guess and say more than probable that he did take one. Considering he was interrogated by not only local police, but the Maine State Police as well.

I've seen cases cleared by the ER docs and also DFS, too, but it's only because an adults word is usually always taken over a kids, IMO, and in this case the child isn't old enough to speak. I'm not really sure what really happened to Ayla during this injury but I wonder if dad or his girlfriend over disciplined or even simply wasn't watching her.
No, I don't think that JD calling TR to meet him at the hospital when Ayla was injured would mean that he did nothing wrong. He may have thought it would look better if they were both there and that they were united.

You're right, it could be anybody, only the person who took Ayla out of that home knows for sure what happened. Definitely I don't think it was a stranger abduction.

My children never played outdoors alone either. Not sure where that came from. Regardless if he wasn't used to having Ayla all the time I would think that he'd try to have something for her to play with outdoors, swingset, tricycle, wagon...something. Not saying he did or didn't. Sunshine is a good thing in moderation, as well as fresh air, especially if there were smokers in the home.

You think if there was anyone that could have had a motive it would be TR. I think the opposite. I think JD might have worried that she was coming for him and he'd be hit up for child support that maybe he didn't want to pay.
Heck, maybe the sisters boyfriend had a motive, or the sister. I seriously doubt it but maybe.
My eyes at this point aren't really even so much on the dad but his girlfriend.

So TR knows the layout of the home. I'm assuming she isn't the only one. You can never assume that everyone would be sleeping in a home at any given time. Unless you have x-ray vision or can peek through every window you just don't know! Someone could have decided to sleep on the couch, or got up to get a drink, or was having trouble getting to sleep. It would have been a really stupid move for TR or anyone she would have had do it, go into that house and be caught there for when they were seen she can kiss her kid goodbye on the custody! In front of a Judge she can always hope he sees it through her eyes and have witnesses that can confirm what she says with Ayla and JD relationship.
Yes, I did say the thought crossed my mind at least a thousand times, to keep my kids from abusive home, but they didn't live there and it would not have been to go into a home and take them out! It was to leave the area and not let him know where. Sane, rational thoughts prevailed, thank God, because taking them in that manner would have harmed them, too!
I agree, non parental abduction is much scarier, but even sometimes when it's a parent that can end not so well, too.

Well, if JD has taken one and no one is saying, I wonder if it that means he didn't pass?

MOO

 

[matou]

WTF???

@cnnross Ross Levitt
#AylaReynolds' grandmother clarifies she was not at home the night the toddler disappeared. #cnnexclusive

 

[matou]

DiPietro now tells CNN she was not among the adults at the home from which Ayla disappeared that night but instead was at another location that she wouldn't publicly disclose

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/08/us/maine-missing-toddler/

 

[matou]

Holey Moley Batman, this isn't a clarification, she was telling a BS story to the interviewer IMO:

During her interview with CNN, DiPietro said Friday that she "didn't hear anything" when asked if she heard any noise the night Ayla disappeared. She added that there was not a party at the house, noted she wasn't the last one to go to bed and said she wasn't sure whether the doors to the house were locked.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/08/us/maine-missing-toddler/

 

[matou]

On Sunday, DiPietro said she wanted to make clear that she wasn't home the night Ayla disappeared and that her information about what happened that night came from others.

Glad she wants to make that CLEAR. Ugh. Where is Ayla. Enough of these games already.

 

[daisy7]

Jeez-o-flipping flip!! (that's me cursing)